PFS , ( GABA, ARs, DHT testosterone ) Mechanism of PFS continued.

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hydrogen binds oxygen ,without oxygen you cant have fast metabolism , it is impossible. I felt low oxygen symptoms on hydrogen and I took it for 5 months., and high adrenaline on hydrogen water. and very cold.

I did not experience hunger on it.

Opposite of thyroid, thyroid increases metabolism and causes adrenaline, hydrogen kills it and causes adrenaline.


But it could do different things for different people I guess.

I just dont like any antioxidants. I like only things that can act as oxidant and antioxidiant at the same time. like b vitamins, all other antioxidants, are not good. long term


I like inhalations better personally and I still do those
Is the weight loss I experienced on hydrogen water only because of high adrenaline?
I also had extreme cold hands on hydrogen water, but I did have insane hunger, couldn't satisfy my needs.
And do inhalations act as an oxidant and as an antioxidant as well?
 

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I got home last night, after reading a few of the first post by Helen, I took about 6 mg of testosterone, and I use a little bit of T3, maybe a total of 8 micrograms... I ended up having and still have a very chubbed up penis, penis is Fuller a nice to get erection. I've had success with this protocol before.
seems like many benefit from T3+ test :D
where do u find t3 medication?
whats the name of t3 medication?
i wanna try a t3+test+HC protocol,but idk where to buy t3 and what is t3?



regards
 

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seems like many benefit from T3+ test :D
where do u find t3 medication?
whats the name of t3 medication?
i wanna try a t3+test+HC protocol,but idk where to buy t3 and what is t3?



regards
Man trust me. Jump on TEI.
Hormones will fuck you up even further.
 

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hydrogen binds oxygen ,without oxygen you cant have fast metabolism , it is impossible. I felt low oxygen symptoms on hydrogen and I took it for 5 months., and high adrenaline on hydrogen water. and very cold.

I did not experience hunger on it.

Opposite of thyroid, thyroid increases metabolism and causes adrenaline, hydrogen kills it and causes adrenaline.


But it could do different things for different people I guess.

I just dont like any antioxidants. I like only things that can act as oxidant and antioxidiant at the same time. like b vitamins, all other antioxidants, are not good. long term


I like inhalations better personally and I still do those

Inhalations act differently than the water. People do inhalations before bed to help sleep, it makes you tired as it it did for me. Drinking the water was stimulating to the metabolism and increased hunger at least for me and the main people who were using it @hairsuit @Ingeno @Walker

I was in keto for a few months and hydrogen feels compeletely different, keto my libido tanked while hydrogen raised it. In that first senetence of your original thread on H you mention it, hydrogen acts as an antioxidant and this allows the metabolism to rise, how can hydrogen kill metabolism and raise it at the same time? And also mentioned it was a selective antioxodant too, which is different from just a regular anti oxidant you are referring to here, is that different now?
 
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Inhalations act differently than the water. People do inhalations before bed to help sleep, it makes you tired as it it did for me. Drinking the water was stimulating to the metabolism and increased hunger at least for me and the main people who were using it @hairsuit @Ingeno @Walker

I was in keto for a few months and hydrogen feels compeletely different, keto my libido tanked while hydrogen raised it. In that first senetence of your original thread on H you mention it, hydrogen acts as an antioxidant and this allows the metabolism to rise, how can hydrogen kill metabolism and raise it at the same time?

hydrogen felt completely the same as keto to me and it killed libido on hydrogen, same as in majority of people who took it on this forum libido was dead for them on hydrogen, since it increased adrenaline.

why do you look at fast oxidizers )) hydrogen is good for them since it lowers cortisol )) and slows down metabolism.

Keto was bad for you , since you did not do it long enough , your were a fast oxidizer. and it takes a while before your fat metabolism can get back to normal


anavar lowered your metaboism also. and you felt better on it. and more libido. by tanking metabolis,.

since you have low DHT not high)) you are not a slow oxidizer. slow oxidizers have high dht, and benefit from thyroid which decreases their DHT




What is this hydrogen water talk again all about ? this is not a thread for it. I ran it or 5 months and experienced zero effects , libido down and slight depression.


inhalations I was doing just for lead, but it also causes slight depression and lower libido in me.

I am still doing them but suffering thru them, it is not like they are making me feel great.


Dont confuse fast and slow oxidizers


Hydrogen inhalations are less acidic , that is all)) and acids increase adrenaline. they are not speeding your metabolism up.
 
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@Boris LOL I tested hydrogen water, it cant raise metabolism since it binds Oxygen. I was barely breathing on it. I had breathing problems from hydrogen on day one. Since i had low oxygen from lead in my hemoglobin.

If hydrogen binds oxygen how can ti raise metabolism.

this is why it causes longevity by tanking the fuck out of metabolism like a turtle))

the higher metabolism you have the less you live usually.

this is why most people slow down in to slow oxidizers as they age.


Fast oxidizer feel better on it. since when you kill oxygen that kills thyroid

that thread was wrong on H< and I came back and said my conclusions on hydrogen and what I felt on it. Why do you read those original messages

Those messages were from Tyler Lebranon bullshit. and theory.


may be if you stay on hydrogen for years may be it does something.

I am on it for almost a year now. but I have my reasons to do it. and it surely does not feel nice or anything at least to me. I am just trying to support low grade chelation with it since I am taking EDTA daily.


Bottom line , hydrogen in me. may be it is just me. causes lower oxygen. I feel it. I get less oxygenation and oxidation. If this is good for longevity , may be.

am I a planning to stay dehydrated and depressed NO. it dehydrates the fuck out me. I have stupid white tongue on it.

Look at Jay , and his voice. that voice is cause there is low oxygen, and also look at his candida in his mouth and he barely can talk on hydrogen without breathing.

This is what is happening to me also , on ihalations I dont even feel it, but on the water it was very noticable I had this stupid white tongue, I hate my tongue white)) I get that on magnesium also.

No one is going to tell you how this water will work. 2-5 months is not enough. I am doing it for a year already, and I still don't know if it is good or not.

Those dudes who did it with malic acid probably felt awesome on malic. since on malic I feel super oxygination. since malic increases Co2


You can try and run hydrogen, it will impair hairtests for sure, since it changes the acidity so not sure how valid it is to run it with TEis or Arls.

I am running it myself I dont know if it is good or bad though long term. I will let you know in 5 years ))
 
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hydrogen felt completely the same as keto to me and it killed libido on hydrogen, same as in majority of people who took it on this forum libido was dead for them on hydrogen, since it increased adrenaline.

why do you look at fast oxidizers )) hydrogen is good for them since it lowers cortisol )) and slows down metabolism.

Keto was bad for you , since you did not do it long enough , your were a fast oxidizer. and it takes a while before your fat metabolism can get back to normal


anavar lowered your metaboism also. and you felt better on it. and more libido. by tanking metabolis,.

since you have low DHT not high)) you are not a slow oxidizer. slow oxidizers have high dht, and benefit from thyroid which decreases their DHT




What is this hydrogen water talk again all about ? this is not a thread for it. I ran it or 5 months and experienced zero effects , libido down and slight depression.


inhalations I was doing just for lead, but it also causes slight depression and lower libido in me.

I am still doing them but suffering thru them, it is not like they are making me feel great.


Dont confuse fast and slow oxidizers


Hydrogen inhalations are less acidic , that is all)) and acids increase adrenaline. they are not speeding your metabolism up.

I just named three people that had a similar experience to me and two of them being the ones who trialed drinking hydrogen water the longest on the forum lol )) Regarding libido, didn't @hairsuit say it reversed their POIS from being on hydrogen as well?

I brought it up again because this thread seems identical to the hydrogen thread when talking about how fin screwed up oxidation system, NADPH, glutathionine, metal toxic etc. mainly this quote from this thread:
So availability of antioxidants ALLOWS the metabolism to go up. And people do the opposite, they increase the metabolism and this lowers already low antioxidant systems. and they wonder they they lose hair on thyroid. or on finasteride.

All which was mentioned that hydrogen can help reverse here while also saying you had only good things to say about drinking hydrogen for months now it changed and made you depressed and zero effects, how come? )) https://hackstasis.com/threads/molecular-hydrogen.710/

Also, we never got to a real conclusion on H either since you are Jay wanted to argue on whose machine was better and it ended there lol ))
 

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I just named three people that had a similar experience to me and two of them being the ones who trialed drinking hydrogen water the longest on the forum lol )) Regarding libido, didn't @hairsuit say it reversed their POIS from being on hydrogen as well?

I brought it up again because this thread seems identical to the hydrogen thread when talking about how fin screwed up oxidation system, NADPH, glutathionine, metal toxic etc. mainly this quote from this thread:


All which was mentioned that hydrogen can help reverse here while also saying you had only good things to say about drinking hydrogen for months now it changed and made you depressed and zero effects, how come? )) https://hackstasis.com/threads/molecular-hydrogen.710/

Also, we never got to a real conclusion on H either since you are Jay wanted to argue on whose machine was better and it ended there lol ))


What are you even talking about )) I came back after several months and posted what I thought about hydrogen LOL since I took it long enough and said that i was against hydrogen water and that it is a rip off)) and that I will do only inhalations from now on.
 

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@Boris LOL I tested hydrogen water, it cant raise metabolism since it binds Oxygen. I was barely breathing on it. I had breathing problems from hydrogen on day one. Since i had low oxygen from lead in my hemoglobin.

If hydrogen binds oxygen how can ti raise metabolism.

this is why it causes longevity by tanking the fuck out of metabolism like a turtle))

the higher metabolism you have the less you live usually.

this is why most people slow down in to slow oxidizers as they age.


Fast oxidizer feel better on it. since when you kill oxygen that kills thyroid

that thread was wrong on H< and I came back and said my conclusions on hydrogen and what I felt on it. Why do you read those original messages

Those messages were from Tyler Lebranon bullshit. and theory.


may be if you stay on hydrogen for years may be it does something.

I am on it for almost a year now. but I have my reasons to do it. and it surely does not feel nice or anything at least to me. I am just trying to support low grade chelation with it since I am taking EDTA daily.


Bottom line , hydrogen in me. may be it is just me. causes lower oxygen. I feel it. I get less oxygenation and oxidation. If this is good for longevity , may be.

am I a planning to stay dehydrated and depressed NO. it dehydrates the fuck out me. I have stupid white tongue on it.

Look at Jay , and his voice. that voice is cause there is low oxygen, and also look at his candida in his mouth and he barely can talk on hydrogen without breathing.

This is what is happening to me also , on ihalations I dont even feel it, but on the water it was very noticable I had this stupid white tongue, I hate my tongue white)) I get that on magnesium also.

No one is going to tell you how this water will work. 2-5 months is not enough. I am doing it for a year already, and I still don't know if it is good or not.

Those dudes who did it with malic acid probably felt awesome on malic. since on malic I feel super oxygination. since malic increases Co2


You can try and run hydrogen, it will impair hairtests for sure, since it changes the acidity so not sure how valid it is to run it with TEis or Arls.

I am running it myself I dont know if it is good or bad though long term. I will let you know in 5 years ))

Lol Jay is vegan anyways eats a lot of soy and lives like a monk so not the best example as there are ton are variables here ))
 

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Lol Jay is vegan anyways eats a lot of soy and lives like a monk so not the best example as there are ton are variables here ))

i dont give a fuck what Jay does. LOL I am telling you what I experienced and experiencing, LOL

the white tongue on the water never goes away for me, on inhalations thank God I hardly get any sides at all. I feel barely anything on it from inhalations.
But it probably does not do shit either LOL that is why ))


At least the water turned acidic in the stomach and you go into keto.

it is hard to judge it , that is all I am saying. I am staying with inhalations, since they seem to not do any shit to me. and I am not drinking the water anymore.

since I want to be pink and not looking like a keto fucker


This thread has nothing to do with this. I am talking about glutathione and NADPH and FAD and not some antioxidants

I am talking about balance between minerals like copper, m,anagnese, iron , zinc, etc, b 1 b2

IF hydrogen water did anything for hair for instance you would see it.

but look at Tyler Lebranon, or Nick Delgato. or Jay , they are on hydrogen , hair is bad bad bad . Also look yellow, since they is no oxygen.


Nick Delgato was already balding after hydrogen it went into super drive)) he can thank Tyler for putting him on hydrogen))


this is when Tyler pitched hydrogen to him, see how he looks.

And this is 2 years later.
and this is recent. you see that he looks like zero oxygen.

You see how they look dehydrated and zero oxygen . and yellow almost.


Jay is lucky he went on vegan diet, it is saving his ass.
 
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Lol Jay is vegan anyways eats a lot of soy and lives like a monk so not the best example as there are ton are variables here ))
Helen never wrong bruh YoU hAvE tO uNdErStAnD
 

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What are you even talking about )) I came back after several months and posted what I thought about hydrogen LOL since I took it long enough and said that i was against hydrogen water and that it is a rip off)) and that I will do only inhalations from now on.

You never concluded anything, on page 34 which is the second the last page (most recent) of the hydrogen thread you said this:

If you feel good on it. Stay on it.

No that changed. slow oxidizers felt like crap on it , and fast oxidizers felt good on it from the get go.

But as I said, according to Volkov. He said that hydrogen can balance you in the end, when it gets rid of all other acids in the body.

|So may be in the long run it can just balance everyone out totally.

this is why I will have a hairtest and also I wish Jay ( Hydro) got one since he was on this water for so long.

But also dont forget Jay went on vegan , high alkaline diet. SO he could balance all this hydrogen with the potassium bicarbonate from the diet.

I have 2 other russian vegans who are doing really good on this water also.

Obviously you care about what Jay does, you keep bringing him up ever single post about hydrogen and we have no idea what oxidation rate he is so using him as an example is worthless lol ))

Also I meant to say @heygate about hydrogen improving and getting rid of POIS and you even mentioned it yourself so not sure where this majority of the forum thing is coming from
I like inhalations much better as well. But also you dont know who you are on the hairtest. I had people totally get rid of POIS who were fast oxidizers, since fast oxidizer is missing fat metabolism and hydrogen water forces it.
 

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i dont give a fuck what Jay does. LOL I am telling you what I experienced and experiencing, LOL

the white tongue on the water never goes away for me, on inhalations thank God I hardly get any sides at all. I feel barely anything on it from inhalations.
But it probably does not do shit either LOL that is why ))


At least the water turned acidic in the stomach and you go into keto.

it is hard to judge it , that is all I am saying. I am staying with inhalations, since they seem to not do any shit to me. and I am not drinking the water anymore.

since I want to be pink and not looking like a keto fucker


This thread has nothing to do with this. I am talking about glutathione and NADPH and FAD and not some antioxidants

I am talking about balance between minerals like copper, m,anagnese, iron , zinc, etc, b 1 b2

IF hydrogen water did anything for hair for instance you would see it.

but look at Tyler Lebranon, or Nick Delgato. or Jay , they are on hydrogen , hair is bad bad bad . Also look yellow, since they is no oxygen.


Nick Delgato was already balding after hydrogen it went into super drive)) he can thank Tyler for putting him on hydrogen))


this is when Tyler pitched hydrogen to him, see how he looks.

And this is 2 years later.
and this is recent. you see that he looks like zero oxygen.

You see how they look dehydrated and zero oxygen . and yellow almost.


Jay is lucky he went on vegan diet, it is saving his ass.

dude we are going in circles here with this lol, but I will stop replying to this after this post to not derail the thread, but Tyler has a full head of hair and Jay shaves his skin bald on purpose because he is a monk like I told you since you love that guys so much so that leaves us with one Nick guy who you mentioned was already balding even before hydrogen anyways so not really credible. Even if you wanted to base everything around hair considering no one has regrown their hair fully on TEI or anything else yet that isn't a good baseline to use if something is good or not lol ))
 
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@Boris I quit wasting my time on you and your bald lover))

If you think Jay is not bald, you honestly need to get lobotomy implemented LOL

He takes baths in sombrero in his videos LOL

Look at quality of hair of Tyler pre hydrogen and post hydrogen LOL post hydrogen it is starting to look like straw))
 

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@Boris I quit wasting my time on you and your bald lover))

If you think Jay is not bald, you honestly need to get lobotomy implemented LOL

He takes baths in sombrero in his videos LOL

lol I don't just obsess on one guy who does one regimen and base everything around that considering the dude lives a complete opposite lifestyle as me))

and you are bald too btw, I don't get why you are so crazy about hair this or that ))
 

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@Boris I quit wasting my time on you and your bald lover))

If you think Jay is not bald, you honestly need to get lobotomy implemented LOL

He takes baths in sombrero in his videos LOL

Look at quality of hair of Tyler pre hydrogen and post hydrogen LOL post hydrogen it is starting to look like straw))

you can overdo hydrogen for sure that is what we are saying lol, drinking 1.5L of hydrogen water is a completely different effect from drinking one glass. The dude lives of it prob cant even put on weight. I think you have some bias against hydrogen now only cause of Jay ))
 

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lol I don't just obsess on one guy who does one regimen and base everything around that considering the dude lives a complete opposite lifestyle as me))

and you are bald too btw, I don't get why you are so crazy about hair this or that ))

you are the one who obsessed with him. I talk from my experience LOL


Who fucking told you I am bald , I have more hair than you LOL
 

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you can overdo hydrogen for sure that is what we are saying lol, drinking 1.5L of hydrogen water is a completely different effect from drinking one glass. The dude lives of it prob cant even put on weight. I think you have some bias against hydrogen now only cause of Jay ))


wow, man, you are getting retarded, you sound like Yura now)) LOL no logic and refuse to read what I write. I am taking hydrogen right now. ))) and you dont'

dont fucking tell me what it does to me or does not) LOL

what does this have to do with some sombero wearing Jay )) I don't get LOL
 

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you are the one who obsessed with him. I talk from my experience LOL


Who fucking told you I am bald , I have more hair than you LOL

you did on skype remember )) and also on the urine thread since you said you were a cueball before )), post a pic of it and show us then

Hate to admit it, but I am doing this.

I think it has a chance to constantly regulate all receptors and immune system.

Have been doing this for 2 weeks. My hair is growing baby))

Feel weird at times.

Will stick with this for 2 months and see what happens