PFS , ( GABA, ARs, DHT testosterone ) Mechanism of PFS continued.

[Ingeno]

@Helen do your temples also regrow? And what about hair that has been gone for years, is it even possible to regrow that? I have never seen anyone regrowing back to NW1 or even NW2. I guess it is almost impossible to become a balanced oxidizer and with hair analysis I think in the end we will keep bouncing between slow 1 and fast 1.

 

[MNK99]

true true

 

[Admiral]

@Helen, pardon my ignorance on the subject, but with the new data and us possibly being copper toxic in the brain, are methods such as liver flushes useful and accurate to fight pfs? Not sure I see the connection here..

 

[Helen]

@Helen, pardon my ignorance on the subject, but with the new data and us possibly being copper toxic in the brain, are methods such as liver flushes useful and accurate to fight pfs? Not sure I see the connection here..

and copper gets out of the body how? with bile. right, and fin fucks what? bile. so if you have thick bile you dont get rid of copper properly.

PLus we dont know if you are copper toxic or copper deficient.

 

[Admiral]

That's what I wanted to hear. Thanks! I'll happily continu the flushes.

 

[Helen]

IN CSF Studies we have hormones which are high and low


So we have

1) high DHEA and high testosterone

2) low estradiol, low dht , low pregnenolon, low progesterone


So we need to try 2 routes and this what this does.

I would assume one of these routes will be a stilt and another will be a cure.

 

[TubZy]

Yea I know the feeling of t3 / hydrogen you say. It felt so good at first. Like I loved the stuff.

Like what Helen stated in post below ours, binding oxygen is what happened that killled me as I figured that out about two months too late. That started happening in bad way after 4 weeks.

But first 3-4 weeks it felt like I was putting my cure in my body. I was on it during my grandfathers funeral and I was like “well he’d be proud of me right now, I’m curing myself of disease and this is finally it, I’m just about there.” Then boom, back to hell within a few weeks.

I agree, but you can also overdo T3 as well and you feel wired, over stimulated, get anxiety, become thin and flat etc all similar to what drinking tons of hydrogen did to a few of us. That was my main reasoning to mentioning T3 because if I overdid hydrogen it felt similar to when I overdid T3. All I'm saying is there could be a sweet spot and less is more basically, but we don't really know exactly what it does. Binding too much oxygen can be bad, I agree..

 

[tallglass13]

seems like many benefit from T3+ test
where do u find t3 medication?
whats the name of t3 medication?
i wanna try a t3+test+HC protocol,but idk where to buy t3 and what is t3?



regards

Hey, I buy Idealabs Tyronene, and I have Cynomel. I also have WP Nature throid, but that is NDT> Of all , I like Tyronene.
Yes, so it was my second day last night. I almost had a wet dream, but I woke up. Feel like prostate and penis are working well and healthy. I did add 1 drop of Androsterone in by beer , along with 1 drop of testosterone enanthate under tongue 6 mg, and a couple drops of t3. I also made a T3 in caffeine water as a scalp spray for hair growth.

 

[Admiral]

This T+Thyroid stilt.. Anyone care to explain how I felt my thyroid was about to explode out of my body when I just took T-gel some 3 years ago? My heart was pounding as I had all the sudden, but typical hyperthyroid symptoms. I've had 3 endocrinologist telling me it couldn't have been my thyroid. Sorry to derail the thread, just something I've never found answers for.

 

[bruschi11]

(Just edited this, top was part of rough draft before. )

I agree, but you can also overdo T3 as well and you feel wired, over stimulated, get anxiety, become thin and flat etc all similar to what drinking tons of hydrogen did to a few of us. That was my main reasoning to mentioning T3 because if I overdid hydrogen it felt similar to when I overdid T3. All I'm saying is there could be a sweet spot and less is more basically, but we don't really know exactly what it does. Binding too much oxygen can be bad, I agree..

Agreed on all of above. I do think there could be a sweet spot for some if not all.

 

[zadig777]

Hey, I buy Idealabs Tyronene, and I have Cynomel. I also have WP Nature throid, but that is NDT> Of all , I like Tyronene.
Yes, so it was my second day last night. I almost had a wet dream, but I woke up. Feel like prostate and penis are working well and healthy. I did add 1 drop of Androsterone in by beer , along with 1 drop of testosterone enanthate under tongue 6 mg, and a couple drops of t3. I also made a T3 in caffeine water as a scalp spray for hair growth.

i ordered metergoline from idealabs and it hasn't arrived for more than a month now,so idk i will be ordering from idealabs soon.. :/
are u serious taking test enanthate under tounge or ur trolling us here wtf?

 

[tallglass13]

Yes its unorthodox, but its the safest and most natural way to take test. IMO....I dilute the vial with olive oil, making each drop approx. 4-6 mg each.

 

[Helen]

Testoerone plus thyroid put you into exact FINASTERIDE body chemistry.


thyroid lowers DHT, increases estrogen, and you take testosterone.

BOOM same as when you were on FIN.

Body got used to this . like that.


I would assume to get it fixed, you need to do the opposite. but as a stilt this works. and this is why

 

[zadig777]

guys what to take for thyroid?
erfa thyroid or t3 from idealabs?
@Helen @bruschi11 @tallglass13 ?

 

[zadig777]

but as a stilt this works

what does "stilt" mean?

 

[Helen]

what does "stilt" mean?

a crutch. while you are on it, it works.

 

[Walker]

Inhalations act differently than the water. People do inhalations before bed to help sleep, it makes you tired as it it did for me. Drinking the water was stimulating to the metabolism and increased hunger at least for me and the main people who were using it @hairsuit @Ingeno @Walker

I was in keto for a few months and hydrogen feels compeletely different, keto my libido tanked while hydrogen raised it. In that first senetence of your original thread on H you mention it, hydrogen acts as an antioxidant and this allows the metabolism to rise, how can hydrogen kill metabolism and raise it at the same time? And also mentioned it was a selective antioxodant too, which is different from just a regular anti oxidant you are referring to here, is that different now?

Agreed. Felt like liquid cocaine. Way over stimmed all day and hungry as hell. I binned it not too long after trying it.

However, my wife still uses it daily, one glass in AM, and she’s had minor weight loss (and the stubborn kind of weight that she’s never been able to have go away - she’s already in good shape) and general mood improvements overall, while on horrible birth control medicine.

 

[RebelWithACause]

This T+Thyroid stilt.. Anyone care to explain how I felt my thyroid was about to explode out of my body when I just took T-gel some 3 years ago? My heart was pounding as I had all the sudden, but typical hyperthyroid symptoms. I've had 3 endocrinologist telling me it couldn't have been my thyroid. Sorry to derail the thread, just something I've never found answers for.

You probably took too much.

 

[Slayo]

hydrogen binds oxygen ,without oxygen you cant have fast metabolism , it is impossible. I felt low oxygen symptoms on hydrogen and I took it for 5 months., and high adrenaline on hydrogen water. and very cold.

I did not experience hunger on it.

Opposite of thyroid, thyroid increases metabolism and causes adrenaline, hydrogen kills it and causes adrenaline.


But it could do different things for different people I guess.

I just dont like any antioxidants. I like only things that can act as oxidant and antioxidiant at the same time. like b vitamins, all other antioxidants, are not good. long term


I like inhalations better personally and I still do those

i think a device that gives out oxygen and hydrogen in balance should be the key

 

[tallglass13]

NDt does not contain any active thyroid hormone, it contains thyroglobulin which stimulates your own thyroid to produce hormones okay.. It's better to take actual T3 and T4 if you want to be specific