PFS sufferer since 18 years old please help

[finpro111]

Alright guys here it is.

Back when I was 16 I started to lose my hair very quickly. My hairline got worse and worse and it was the most degrading thing for a 16 year olds self-esteem. As a result, I tried everything and finally convinced a doctor to put me on finasteride. This lasted for 2 years plus. As a result of my finasteride use my body got very weak and skinny.
When I stopped finasteride I went from being a strong confident college athlete to a weak body. Now I didn't lose weight but I lost my aggressive edge. I lost my fight and my explosiveness. I went from having a d1 athletic body to being out of shape.

Basically ever since Finasteride I have had a lot of sexual and psychological issues.
I have a very hard time focusing on things
My morning erections are almost non existent
My sexual stamina is awful
I carry an excess of water weight
Poor beard growth
Testicular atrophy
weakness in my legs
joint issues
Premature Ejaculation
Tons of extra water weight/ I look bloated in my gut. I workout a ton and I look like I have a ton of extra fat.....

I have literally tried everything. I also was tested for testosterone levels and at the time I was 20 and they were 450-500 level. The doctor that was extremely low for my age and put me on HCG.

I have recently tried 5adhp which was amazing for the first few days
Androsterone 5mg in drops
Panesterone
Gonadin

I am not really sure what step to take now. My diet is great, and I workout 5 days a week. I just dont have the mental edge I once had or the mobility. MY body feels like its 50 years old and I am only 24.

Sorry if its a mix of jumbled thoughts. Its getting pretty late here and I am a bit stressed out.
All advice and help is appreciated. PFS is real and it is bullshit. I am afraid I stunted some of my puberty as well.

 

[bruschi11]

Brutal.

Have tei hair test done.

Hair Analysis Test (Profile 2) + Full Report by Trace Elements

Follow @Niles @Goose12 @hairsuit @tonysoprano amongst others who are improving on this.

You seem to be a very fixable case. Many here will help.

Best of luck.

 

[Trump_1776]

Alright guys here it is.

Back when I was 16 I started to lose my hair very quickly. My hairline got worse and worse and it was the most degrading thing for a 16 year olds self-esteem. As a result, I tried everything and finally convinced a doctor to put me on finasteride. This lasted for 2 years plus. As a result of my finasteride use my body got very weak and skinny.
When I stopped finasteride I went from being a strong confident college athlete to a weak body. Now I didn't lose weight but I lost my aggressive edge. I lost my fight and my explosiveness. I went from having a d1 athletic body to being out of shape.

Basically ever since Finasteride I have had a lot of sexual and psychological issues.
I have a very hard time focusing on things
My morning erections are almost non existent
My sexual stamina is awful
I carry an excess of water weight
Poor beard growth
Testicular atrophy
weakness in my legs
joint issues

I have literally tried everything. I also was tested for testosterone levels and at the time I was 20 and they were 450-500 level. The doctor that was extremely low for my age and put me on HCG.

I have recently tried 5adhp which was amazing for the first few days
Androsterone 5mg in drops
Panesterone
Gonadin

I am not really sure what step to take now. My diet is great, and I workout 5 days a week. I just dont have the mental edge I once had or the mobility. MY body feels like its 50 years old and I am only 24.

Sorry if its a mix of jumbled thoughts. Its getting pretty late here and I am a bit stressed out.
All advice and help is appreciated. PFS is real and it is bullshit. I am afraid I stunted some of my puberty as well.

Recent bloodwork? Full panel. Estrogen included.

The main "protocol" as listed is hair mineral test and mineral balancing.

There are alternative protocols as well, all depends on what you want to do.

I think you have a good basis with your workout schedule, do you get pumps in the gym?

Any medications that you're currently taking?

Welcome to Hackstasis, just about the only place on the internet with guys in your situation working to find a cure.

 

[finpro111]

Currently not taking any medications. I will get a full blood panel and hair test done soon.

Current routine is 8 drops of gonadin and
2 drops of panesterone

Previous was 5mg of 5adhp evening and 5mg of androsterone in morning with 4 drops of panesterone
First few days was amazing, but eventually, my balls started to ache.

 

[finpro111]

Recent bloodwork? Full panel. Estrogen included.

The main "protocol" as listed is hair mineral test and mineral balancing.

There are alternative protocols as well, all depends on what you want to do.

I think you have a good basis with your workout schedule, do you get pumps in the gym?

Any medications that you're currently taking?

Welcome to Hackstasis, just about the only place on the internet with guys in your situation working to find a cure.

What bloodwork do you suggest getting? Estrogen, Testosterone?

 

[TubZy]

Currently not taking any medications. I will get a full blood panel and hair test done soon.

Current routine is 8 drops of gonadin and
2 drops of panesterone

Previous was 5mg of 5adhp evening and 5mg of androsterone in morning with 4 drops of panesterone
First few days was amazing, but eventually, my balls started to ache.

same happened to me with 5adhp when I first tried it, first few times worked great, then nothing. Just seemed like a bandaid or crutch though

Do TEI protocol or CDnuts protocol I would say. Those are the approved protocols right now. Check my signature for the links.

 

[Trump_1776]

What bloodwork do you suggest getting? Estrogen, Testosterone?

@Helen is pretty solid on this.
Test
Est
Cortisol
Progesterone
SHBG
T3/T4
Free T

I would recommend compiling a list. I myself find bloodwork to be important as it timestamps the state your body is in. For instance, when I set out on this in feb. I got bloodwork done, this coming feb. I will as well to see how I changed in a years time. A lot of folks don't see the logic though, seeing as you're likely to have something wrong cause thats why you're here anyways

 

[bruschi11]

@Helen is pretty solid on this.
Test
Est
Cortisol
Progesterone
SHBG
T3/T4
Free T

I would recommend compiling a list. I myself find bloodwork to be important as it timestamps the state your body is in. For instance, when I set out on this in feb. I got bloodwork done, this coming feb. I will as well to see how I changed in a years time. A lot of folks don't see the logic though, seeing as you're likely to have something wrong cause thats why you're here anyways

Dude we don’t even use hormones for the protocols we are currently using. TEI, electrolytes?

I mean he does not need hormones done. Just have hair test done and jump on program. We have lot of success with guys running TEI. Unless you are a severe cfs, gut issue type then there’s no reason not to.

 

[Trump_1776]

Dude we don’t even use hormones for the protocols we are currently using. TEI, electrolytes?

I mean he does not need hormones done. Just have hair test done and jump on program. We have lot of success with guys running TEI. Unless you are a severe cfs, gut issue type then there’s no reason not to.

I disagree. I still think its beneficial to have blood work done to see how it's changed over time in recovery.

 

[Goose12]

I disagree. I still think its beneficial to have blood work done to see how it's changed over time in recovery.

If money is not an issue I don't see anything wrong with getting blood work. It is interesting to see where you are at, but if money is tight it is definitely not needed.

Blood work is usually worthless in helping with recovery so if you get it dont obsess over it @finpro111

 

[Trump_1776]

If money is not an issue I don't see anything wrong with getting blood work. It is interesting to see where you are at, but if money is tight it is definitely not needed.

Blood work is usually worthless in helping with recovery so if you get it dont obsess over it @finpro111

Agreed, it is a perk.

 

[Goose12]

@finpro111 you should drop everything you are currently taking and just eat a balanced diet and exercise, a month before getting a hair test. Start reading through the forum and you will see a lot of us are having success with tei.

 

[finpro111]

If money is not an issue I don't see anything wrong with getting blood work. It is interesting to see where you are at, but if money is tight it is definitely not needed.

Blood work is usually worthless in helping with recovery so if you get it dont obsess over it @finpro111

I’m going to have my doctor run bloodwork. Trust me I’ve tried almost everything. I tried nothing no supplements. I workout a lot actually, I used to be a college athlete so it’s a routine and habit. My diet is also immaculate. For the amount I workout and the diet I gave I should be in a lot better shape.
I did order the tei test. It’s already on the way. I’ll head to the doc tomorrow for some blood work. I’m just sick of this feeling and the worst part is my lack of concentration, focus and confidence.
The only time I felt somewhat confident and extremely focused was after hcg treatment and a low dose of an estrogen blocker.
I’ll keep you guys updated on my results and current progress.

 

[finpro111]

Just an update. Just mailed my hair test yesterday! Will be attempting to run blood work next week. I have previous blood work I will upload on here soon.

 

[finpro111]

One thing I really hate is that I’m not calm cool and collected at all anymore. I’m like a stressed out rabbit always anxious and in an insane amount of thought. It’s kinda of driving me nuts. Anyone have any idea why? My friends are telling me to slow down but like I seriously can’t. It’s crazy....

 

[MNK99]

-TL;DR: - do TEI, it will calm you down. Nearly as strong as a mood stabilizer. Trust me, I know unfortunately. ---Without the chemical straightjacket aspect*.
-Choline - also good maybe for some. I like it but cannot say it helps everyone. But also very bad for some people***. ---Also nofap helps a fair amount, just putting that out there. Basically use TEI and or fast first and refeed perfectly. TEI. TEI. TEI.

i was like that in many ways, literally forever. also year of the rabbit and pisces so super sketched out and erratic at times (haha, but no seriously).
I find it calming. Helps asthma (life long medication user there nearly, except I always ran out --but now maybe 1-2 inhalers would last a year, no need while on tei at least).
-Strongly helps Mood, Insomnia (sleep hygiene is great at times - better than many yrs), anxiety, and also contentedness.... but it's a work in progress.
-Helps PFS, i think more strongly in the snapback/ break of treatment phase. Kind of helps ADHD maybe... but definitely does help anxiety, mood, cyclng emotions (long lasting).
-I'd use it over mood stabilizers, etc, and definitely I'd use it for anxiety, pre or post pfs.... If it helps all that, and it's used to fix pfs here, may as well use it, esp. if fasting was a no go for whatever reason. TEi.

 

[finpro111]

Ok so I submitted the Hair tests and I also had a ton of blood work done. Currently waiting on the results for both. I have been looking at proviron. Has anyone had any success on it? I mean I need to be patient and wait for my results because they will give me plenty of answers.

My previous tests I noticed a lot of issues with hormones. My estrogen was low and my progesterone was extremely high. Kinda of weird.

 

[finpro111]

I would also say that my anxiety and lack of confidence ruined my relationship. I got dumped a month ago. Sucks but I need to heal because I’m psychologically a mess. I don’t have that confident edge and I truly feel like my pfs is a main cause.

 

[finpro111]

Seriously can’t wait for these tests and some answers. At this point I’ll try anything

 

[BC2018]

The main "protocol" as listed is hair mineral test and mineral balancing.

I thought hair tests were for checking toxins my doctor offered me that where can I get the mineral one done?