PFStinks Ella Log (PFS)

[PFStinks]

Hey folks,

For the past 6 months or so I've been experimenting with different protocols found on these forums.
When I tried cysteine, magnesium, potassium and copper there was a 3 day window where i felt amazing but the effects subsided afterwards and no matter how much I tried I was unable to get them back. I tried adding histadine and zinc to the mix and that didn't help either. Large doses of zinc (100mg+) did make me feel better the next day but its a temporary solution, and not a healthy one either.

Later I tried HCL, digestive enzymes, electrolytes, and multivitamins. I took whey protein and a mix of amino acids to help things along but I didn't notice any difference at all doing this.

I tried sulforaphane by growing my own brocolli sprouts and that didn't really help either.

I got to a point where I considered going BACK on finasteride and trying to ween myself off ever so slowly so my body could get accustomed to the new DHT levels without crashing.
But before I did that I decided to try Ella.

I split the pill into 6 parts, 5 mg each. I'm going to save one part for a rainy day if I need an extra kick later down the line. So I'm doing 5 days of 5mg each. Today is my last day.

What I noticed a few hours after taking Ella for the first time was an extremely wired feeling like I had drunk WAY too much coffee, just like Aztec described. The day after I felt more clear headed, energized and my libido was much better. This is still being maintained until now but its almost like its coming in waves, in one wave i feel great and my privates are hanging low, and in another wave im feeling kind of fatigued and my privates are retracted. Although the general baseline is much better for me right now.

I'm keeping this log because its what happens AFTER my Ella cycles that's important. So stay tuned for updates.

(PS All this being said, a WARNING: Warning about Mifepristone (RU486, "Ella", etc.) : Drug Therapy & Hormone Replacement
This person has reported feeling persistently WORSE after using treatments like this. Results will not be the same for everyone. I still have yet to find out if I feel better or worse and I'm not qualified to give medical advice at all. I'm experimenting with myself. You have been warned.)

 

[Slayo]

The guy used milk thistle, not ru or ella

 

[PFStinks]

The guy used milk thistle, not ru or ella

Right but I'm assuming they both do a similar thing otherwise he wouldn't have lumped them all in the same category. Regardless I don't know what I'm talking about so I'm keeping the warning up just to be safe.

 

[BeLikeWater]

Man I really like how you express yourself, wish you all the luck man. Im going to take that road also soon, I have speak with aztec and he only took 5mg of Ella, thats it.
Keep us informed and wish you the best. You are still very young 25. Lets go

 

[PFStinks]

Man I really like how you express yourself, wish you all the luck man. Im going to take that road also soon, I have speak with aztec and he only took 5mg of Ella, thats it.
Keep us informed and wish you the best. You are still very young 25. Lets go

Thank you. Yeah it seems as though Aztecs PFS symptoms weren't as bad as mine so I decided to take more just to be sure. I took my last dose last night and I'm still cruising at a higher baseline. During PFS i was around 30% of my pre-PFS state, now with the Ella I'm at like an 80%. Praying that these results stick and hopefully get better, I'll let you guys know what happens.

 

[Snow1]

Good luck brother, keep us updated and good ya for taking the leap on Ella.

 

[BeLikeWater]

Thank you. Yeah it seems as though Aztecs PFS symptoms weren't as bad as mine so I decided to take more just to be sure. I took my last dose last night and I'm still cruising at a higher baseline. During PFS i was around 30% of my pre-PFS state, now with the Ella I'm at like an 80%. Praying that these results stick and hopefully get better, I'll let you guys know what happens.

Yeah Aztec symtoms were prety mild, good luck!

 

[PFStinks]

Okay guys it's been about 2 and a half days since I last used Ella and my results have still stuck. I've noticed I'm feeling a lot more talkative, my energy levels are higher, my libido is better and I even seemed to have slimmed down in the face. I think PFS might have made me retain more water or something, I'm not sure.

Suffice to say things are still going good for me, I'll let you guys know if anything changes.

 

[Aflac94]

What were your major symptoms if you don’t mind sharing

 

[IHateFin]

Hell yeah my dude!!

 

[PFStinks]

What were your major symptoms if you don’t mind sharing

My major PFS symptoms were:
Brain fog (This included slowed down and slurred speech, the inability to focus both visually and mentally, forgetfulness in both long and short term memory, lack of motivation, lack of wanting to socialise, and anxiety)
Gut issues (Bloating, stools were never solid, diarrhea easily triggered by foods that contain dairy etc)
Libido (Retracted and functionally stunted privates)

Almost 5 days since I've completed my Ella cycle and I would say I'm around 85% cured.

I get waves where my prostate twitches and I get an almost pins and needles feeling throughout my entire body, I think this is a good sign. Only thing I'm concerned is about is that I'm comparing myself to RebelWithACause's PFS log where he got sick immediately after coming off Ella, and people were saying this is a really good sign as he induced acidosis. I have yet to be sick and don't know if this is a pre-requisite before getting fully cured.

 

[JasonSky]

That's awesome! Keep it up man, I think I may try and get my hands on some Ella tbh as most supplemental routes haven't really helped me much. For those of us in the states., anyone know where to get Ella without a doctors prescription?

 

[PFStinks]

Its been about a week since I've last used Ella.

I've noticed that my voice has gotten deeper, and most of my other results have remained about the same.
I've been feeling more tired for the past few days though, it's a different kind of tired to what I was facing before Ella.
PFS was more of an unnatural fatigue and now I feel like I haven't been getting enough sleep even if I sleep for over 8 hours.
Also no signs of the flu yet.

@JasonSky Thanks, I think people have posted websites on the forum, just try searching around

 

[JasonSky]

Its been about a week since I've last used Ella.

I've noticed that my voice has gotten deeper, and most of my other results have remained about the same.
I've been feeling more tired for the past few days though, it's a different kind of tired to what I was facing before Ella.
PFS was more of an unnatural fatigue and now I feel like I haven't been getting enough sleep even if I sleep for over 8 hours.
Also no signs of the flu yet.

@JasonSky Thanks, I think people have posted websites on the forum, just try searching around

Awesome! Definitely some encouraging news, so it has helped with libido as well I assume? And I don't think getting massively sick is a pre-requisite to getting cured, perhaps it was just unlucky timing for RebelWAC.

 

[IHateFin]

Hey man I would check your estrogen levels and prog levels. Hopefully you had them checked to compare and see if the balance shifted.
Estrogen increasing and prog decreasing is in line with having more energy (feeling wired) and libido and pretty much all the benefits you're experiencing.
Prog antagonists increase estrogen indirectly.

If the Ella doesn't stick it could mean you are slowly starting to retain prog and potassium again and lose the estrogen and sodium retention. Could be a sign that licorice could be a massive help then run another Ella cycle and results will be more inclined to stick.

Licorice retains sodium which retains estrogen when taken every 4 days.
It could be a sign estrogen will help you.
I'm doing the estrogen angle and see big improvements when I don't accidentally do something stupid lol

Try some estrogenic herbs like licorice and funegreek. Day n night man.
I even went to the extreme and run a bit of estrogen cream and man I get a good wired energy and mood goes to the sky! Muscles get harder and errections get harder.
Food for thought if you're wondering where to go next.
I haven't updated my log yet on my experiments but I posted studies on how estrogen increases mRNA of androgens and increases their uptake.
PFS as gbold has stated made some of us insensitive to estrogen.

Your reaction to Ella is super similar to my reaction to micro dose ru.

 

[PFStinks]

Awesome! Definitely some encouraging news, so it has helped with libido as well I assume? And I don't think getting massively sick is a pre-requisite to getting cured, perhaps it was just unlucky timing for RebelWAC.

Yup my libido has definitely seen improvements, also I hope RWAC's sickness was coincidental but I'm not sure.

 

[PFStinks]

Hey man I would check your estrogen levels and prog levels. Hopefully you had them checked to compare and see if the balance shifted.
Estrogen increasing and prog decreasing is in line with having more energy (feeling wired) and libido and pretty much all the benefits you're experiencing.
Prog antagonists increase estrogen indirectly.

If the Ella doesn't stick it could mean you are slowly starting to retain prog and potassium again and lose the estrogen and sodium retention. Could be a sign that licorice could be a massive help then run another Ella cycle and results will be more inclined to stick.

Licorice retains sodium which retains estrogen when taken every 4 days.
It could be a sign estrogen will help you.
I'm doing the estrogen angle and see big improvements when I don't accidentally do something stupid lol

Try some estrogenic herbs like licorice and funegreek. Day n night man.
I even went to the extreme and run a bit of estrogen cream and man I get a good wired energy and mood goes to the sky! Muscles get harder and errections get harder.
Food for thought if you're wondering where to go next.
I haven't updated my log yet on my experiments but I posted studies on how estrogen increases mRNA of androgens and increases their uptake.
PFS as gbold has stated made some of us insensitive to estrogen.

Your reaction to Ella is super similar to my reaction to micro dose ru.

I haven't checked any of my levels so to check them now would probably be kind of pointless. My results have still stuck so far, so I don't want to mess with anything just yet. Thanks a bunch for all this information though, it could definitely come in useful in the near future.

@RebelWithACause and @expendable both saw the biggest improvements a month after coming off Ella, and I think both of them did experience a similar tiredness to what I'm going through now. I'll try keep this thread active and let you know how I'm going.

Just to recap with my results so far:

Improved cognition, brain-fog pretty much gone
Improved short term & long term memory
Improved speech, no slurring, being tongue tied or forgetting words
Improved mood
Improved libido
Reduced anxiety
Deepened voice

I'm just over 85% back to my old self, again the only drawback is the tiredness I'm feeling but other than that the results have stuck.

 

[IHateFin]

anytime man! very promising results for sure

 

[BeLikeWater]

Hello good results so far. I took 10mg of Ella 1/3 of a 30mg pill, double the size Aztec took, im not going to do more and lets see what happens, noticed a lottle bit of palpitations. Btw I had a perfect day the other day with all symptoms gone and feeling pretty PERFECT with just bit of Pine Pollem that I recolected myself, best day ever since 8 years of PFS. It didnt stick but I felt pretty sexual!

 

[BeLikeWater]

I haven't checked any of my levels so to check them now would probably be kind of pointless. My results have still stuck so far, so I don't want to mess with anything just yet. Thanks a bunch for all this information though, it could definitely come in useful in the near future.

@RebelWithACause and @expendable both saw the biggest improvements a month after coming off Ella, and I think both of them did experience a similar tiredness to what I'm going through now. I'll try keep this thread active and let you know how I'm going.

Just to recap with my results so far:

Improved cognition, brain-fog pretty much gone
Improved short term & long term memory
Improved speech, no slurring, being tongue tied or forgetting words
Improved mood
Improved libido
Reduced anxiety
Deepened voice

I'm just over 85% back to my old self, again the only drawback is the tiredness I'm feeling but other than that the results have stuck.

I really love your communication skills! I took 10mg today as I said, lets see if I get any improvements.