please post your DHT , testosterone free testosterone and SHBG levels and PROGESTERONE

[jinstewart]

Ta Goose - yes looked kinda "vanilla" PFS, weirdly sorta grateful for that, in that it's nothing too insane anyway.

 

[wuf]

Well I've been on this rollercoaster ride for 1.5 decades now. You can get a bit impatient and eager to try stuff. I've tracked my hormones over those years with endocrinologists, though and every time it 'bounced' back to baseline.

I will ask for it once I test my blood again after this TEI cycle.

Progesteron was always lowish. Since I've found this place and focus on a healthy lifestyle, mineral balancing, it's way over the limit now. Weird how it's the only hormone that's changing. Could be due to the amount of copper I take. EDIT: Also took Ella, ofcourse.

If what @Helen says is true, just try a little shot of insulin and she how you feel, does it make sense?

 

[Admiral]

No idea how to get my hands on insuline nor do I feel it's the cure, but then again, I know little on this.

 

[wuf]

No idea how to get my hands on insuline nor do I feel it's the cure, but then again, I know little on this.

sure.
you could ask to a diabetic if you have any friend being diabetic..but I guess Helen is supposing theories but real stuff could be unfortunately different from theories.

 

[Admiral]

Meh, I’d need more information and guidelines if I were to try it.

 

[blindsided]

My SHBG was also high. Numbers below are from around 5 months after I crashed (only crashed after quitting fin). That was almost 3 years ago so not sure what numbers look like now. As you can see, LH and FSH were also on the lower end. Cortisol was also sky high 24/7 at the time of these tests.

DIHYDROTESTOSTERONE= 506 pg/mL (112 - 955 pg/mL)
SEX HORMONE BINDING= 55 nmol/L (10 - 57 nmol/L)
ESTRADIOL= 33 pg/mL (10 - 40 pg/mL)
TESTOSTERONE,FREE= 8.98 ng/dL (4.46 - 17.1 ng/dL)
TESTOSTERONE= 528 ng/dL (240 - 950 ng/dL)
LH= 3.5 mIU/mL (0.6-12.1 mIU/mL)
FSH= 2.9 mIU/mL (1.0-12.0 mIU/mL)

 

[Helen]

I think that if there is something wrong with fats metabolism in the body , then fats are not working

and then cortisol goes up to use protein as a fuel for energy. this creates ammonia.

and since cortisol is raised to use protein for energy, then androgens are prohibited , since you dont want to build protein. when you use it for energy.

 

[Helen]

Meh, I’d need more information and guidelines if I were to try it.

man you have zero hormones, at all.

do you react fine to testosterone? or you crash on it?


test potassium in blood

 

[Admiral]

When I tried gel it worked for the first two weeks, but I had to quit due to rapid hyperthyroid symptoms. Also took pills for about two months. That didn't do anything. It even lowered my T and made me fatigued as hell in the end. Injections never did anything.

Not sure I crashed, but it sure as hell didn't work.

I'd be open to try insuline, but no one with PFS has ever tried it. Though with some of your guidance I would definitely go for it.

 

[Helen]

When I tried gel it worked for the first two weeks, but I had to quit due to rapid hyperthyroid symptoms. Also took pills for about two months. That didn't do anything. It even lowered my T and made me fatigued as hell in the end. Injections never did anything.

Not sure I crashed, but it sure as hell didn't work.

I'd be open to try insuline, but no one with PFS has ever tried it. Though with some of your guidance I would definitely go for it.

I did not rec insulin to you.

Just do the retest of your hairtest.

or test potassium in blood.

you need to figure out why the release of insulin is low.


usualy insulin is released when there is potassium,and ionized calcium


and this could look like steroid diabetes.

 

[Admiral]

Yes, I'm on it. Hopefully the test will reveal my true oxidation rate

 

[HerrFisch]

Insuline was 6 (0-31).
Also DHEA is always lowish.

Serum potassium was never tested. Potassium in hair is lowish. Only minerals I tested in blood were zinc, magnesium, copper, calcium. All were perfect. All vitamin B's came back good, D as well.

When did you do this insulin testing ?

 

[Admiral]

I think 3 years ago or so..

 

[Helen]

I think 3 years ago or so..

what is your ferritin?

 

[Admiral]

Scratch that, that insuline was tested last year, along with the following, including ferritine.

Ceruloplasmine 0.24 (0.2-0.6)
Insuline 6 ( ... - 39)
C-peptide 0.4 (0.3-2.35)
Iron 22 (14-28)
Complement component C4 0.21 (0.1-0.4)
Iron binding capacity latent 24 (24-54)
Iron panel total 46 (45-81)
Ferritine 134 (30-400)
Transferrine 2.14 (1.8-3.6)
Folium acid 34.1 (8.8 - ... )

Latest urine test:
Methylhistamine 91 ( ... - 150)
Methylimidazole ecotic acid 0.9 (0.9-1.9)

Most of my blood levels come back decent. Only hormones are always low.

 

[tanedout]

- FSH = 2.1 iu/L (1.0 - 9.0)
- LH = 2.6 iu/L (1.0 - 9.0)
- Prolactin = 147mu/L ( < 550)
- Testosterone = 13.1 nmol/L (8.0 - 30.0)
- SHBG = 36 nmol/L (13.0 - 71.0)
- Cortisol = 563 nmol/L (150-600)
- DHT = 4.1 nmol/L (0.9 - 2.90)

- ferrin = 499 (? - 300)

(above from a few years ago - only set I have including DHT)

 

[wuf]

Not to be an finger in the ass. But my personal opinion.. This will be another thread posting blood analisis and it will bring to nowhere in the personal issue of each person of us.

 

[wuf]

what is your ferritin?

I do have very low iron and ferritin as well.. I mean very very very low.

 

[blindsided]

Not to be an finger in the ass. But my personal opinion.. This will be another thread posting blood analisis and it will bring to nowhere in the personal issue of each person of us.

You might be correct. It's been known for a long time that it is quite common for PFS guys to have high SHBG, low FSH, and low LH.

 

[ncsugrad]

Another high SHBG, low free test and high total test PFS guy checking in. Will post the details when I’m at a computer.