Question about Androgen Insensitivity

djohn051

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Is there any truth to the fact that PFS symptoms are a cause of the body no longer responding to androgens. This would certainly make sense. I recently had my hormonal profile tested and my Test level was quite high (800 ng/dl). If this is true, then what do the protocols on here that suggest increasing the acidity of the body do to remedy this situation. I struggle to see the connection.
 

joekool

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We do believe the receptors are downgraded at some point during pfs.

The protocols listed could lead to bring the body back to stasis.
 

djohn051

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We do believe the receptors are downgraded at some point during pfs.

The protocols listed could lead to bring the body back to stasis.

Is there a theoretical basis for how/what these protocols could be doing to accomplish in upregulation of these receptors?
 

IHateFin

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Yeah they are most likely damaged to an extent. I can tell when they heal when I actually start growing new hairs on my arm or face or the hairs appear darker.
When they die again the hairs become lighter and newer ones shed only not to come back.

I know my body too well man haha
 

djohn051

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Yeah they are most likely damaged to an extent. I can tell when they heal when I actually start growing new hairs on my arm or face or the hairs appear darker.
When they die again the hairs become lighter and newer ones shed only not to come back.

I know my body too well man haha


100% I believe you know your body, as I know mine. Do you feel like you have seen improvement? What exactly do you mean by "When they die age"? Do you mean that sometimes your receptors seem to be functioning but then they stop working again?
 

IHateFin

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100% I believe you know your body, as I know mine. Do you feel like you have seen improvement? What exactly do you mean by "When they die age"? Do you mean that sometimes your receptors seem to be functioning but then they stop working again?

i have seen moderate improvement over time, but after rapid improvement it usually is temporary. yes, thats what i mean when i say they die again. they seem to function properly then stop and thats when my hairs on my arm change or take a step backwards in their improvement. overall it has generally improved.
Randro seems to cause my arm hairs to reduce.
4AD seems to not only preserve them but improve them further and mixing the two seems to keep them stable, but after the androsterone enanthate builds up it seems they die but much more slowly.
 

djohn051

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i have seen moderate improvement over time, but after rapid improvement it usually is temporary. yes, thats what i mean when i say they die again. they seem to function properly then stop and thats when my hairs on my arm change or take a step backwards in their improvement. overall it has generally improved.
Randro seems to cause my arm hairs to reduce.
4AD seems to not only preserve them but improve them further and mixing the two seems to keep them stable, but after the androsterone enanthate builds up it seems they die but much more slowly.

Interesting. I've certainly noticed a decrease in my body hair, as well as the rate of growth. The most prominent is that my pubes seem sparse (not the worst problem, but the rest of what it implies is where my worry lies). Do you have issues of libido? If so, has anything worked for that? I imagine that all of these issues are closely related, but the libido one is the one that gets me the worst. I've started feeling subhuman.
 

IHateFin

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Interesting. I've certainly noticed a decrease in my body hair, as well as the rate of growth. The most prominent is that my pubes seem sparse (not the worst problem, but the rest of what it implies is where my worry lies). Do you have issues of libido? If so, has anything worked for that? I imagine that all of these issues are closely related, but the libido one is the one that gets me the worst. I've started feeling subhuman.

yeah libido is an issue of mine.
my log shows how these things have helped. 4AD stimulated libido a lot for me differently than just Randro on its own. sometimes libido is quite strong, but it has tapered off for me on my prhormone cycle.
 

djohn051

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yeah libido is an issue of mine.
my log shows how these things have helped. 4AD stimulated libido a lot for me differently than just Randro on its own. sometimes libido is quite strong, but it has tapered off for me on my prhormone cycle.

Well that's good you've seen some improvement in that domain. I'm 18 months off and haven't seen any recovery to libido.
 

IHateFin

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Well that's good you've seen some improvement in that domain. I'm 18 months off and haven't seen any recovery to libido.

yeah when i first crashed the first supplement i took was tongkat ali and i hadnt felt any libido until i did. im not sure what it did to me but my body almost cured its self overtime from taking that. the libido and energy at times was insane at times. that was about 2 1/2 years ago
 

djohn051

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yeah when i first crashed the first supplement i took was tongkat ali and i hadnt felt any libido until i did. im not sure what it did to me but my body almost cured its self overtime from taking that. the libido and energy at times was insane at times. that was about 2 1/2 years ago

Do you know how much you took? I'll give it a go. So far I haven't taken too drastic measures. I take Zinc, Vitamin D, Tribulus, Magnesium, B-complex, and a multivitamin. Also, have you tried any of the protocols on here geared towards upping your body's acidity?
 

IHateFin

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Do you know how much you took? I'll give it a go. So far I haven't taken too drastic measures. I take Zinc, Vitamin D, Tribulus, Magnesium, B-complex, and a multivitamin. Also, have you tried any of the protocols on here geared towards upping your body's acidity?

im not sure how much exactly, but i took it twice a day probs like 400 to 600mg a day.
i have not tried any protocols to increase acidity. i have only done the ru and a type of cdsnuts protocol with the cycling the prohormones.