R ANDRO / ANDROSTERONE

[wuf]

simply put Randro/ Androsterone is great! i see why ppl get cured from cycling. i felt amazing anfter PCT from my first Randro cycle and right now im day 4 in my second Randro/ androsterone cycle and it feels better than the first cycle.

Which PCT did you use exactly after R Andro run?

 

[Snow1]

What does PCT mean? I have also just finished a r-andro cycle and now cycling herbs as per cd-nuts protocol.

Still haven't tried RU or Ella yet - waiting for a magical protocol - happy to wait 3-6 months for testing and validation and for it to be documented.

I haven't posted much lately but seems like some good progress from the local lads.

 

[wuf]

What does PCT mean? I have also just finished a r-andro cycle and now cycling herbs as per cd-nuts protocol.

Still haven't tried RU or Ella yet - waiting for a magical protocol - happy to wait 3-6 months for testing and validation and for it to be documented.

I haven't posted much lately but seems like some good progress from the local lads.

PCT means post cycle terapy...it is normally used after a steroid cycle. CdNuts claims cycling herbs is enough as PCT after R Andro usage.
How are you feeling after R Andro?

 

[Snow1]

PCT means post cycle terapy...it is normally used after a steroid cycle. CdNuts claims cycling herbs is enough as PCT after R Andro usage.
How are you feeling after R Andro?

Ok mate, I actually feel like I go backwards after the cycle for about a month then is slowly progress's I'll know in a few weeks if it drifts above baseline.

 

[wuf]

Ok mate, I actually feel like I go backwards after the cycle for about a month then is slowly progress's I'll know in a few weeks if it drifts above baseline.

Ok, fine, it will improve your baseline pretty sure.

 

[wuf]

Yes I’m writing up a 30 day plan to start dec 1st which will include Randro, T3 & letro.

Keep far away from letro or any estrogens inhibitor.. they're very dangerous for PFS.
R Andro does it already.

 

[joekool]

Hello Wuf, I'm taking a very small dosage every 3 days... for obvious reasons... what have you heard regarding inhibiting estrogen in a PFS sufferer?? Something 5ar related?

 

[wuf]

Hello Wuf, I'm taking a very small dosage every 3 days... for obvious reasons... what have you heard regarding inhibiting estrogen in a PFS sufferer?? Something 5ar related?

I did it personally and fucked me so hard that you can't even imagine, plus I heard other people doing it and got the same side effects.
I only took 0.25 mg per 3 times and shut my estrogens down for months, leaving me with joints pain, muscolar pain, weakness, brain fog, hot flashes all over my body, dry skin and mouth and a lot more... plus also gbolduev doesn't reccomend to put down estrogens.
R Andro already keeps estrogens in control because it is converting into DHT which is a strong antiestrogens by itself.
I wouldn't touch ani anti estrogens, trust me.

 

[IHateFin]

Which PCT did you use exactly after R Andro run?

PCT was the following:
Lcarnatine 2g a day
tangkat ali 200:1
trib cycled 3x a week
Cistanche 30:1
creatine 5g a day

i cycled borax too so that was like used maybe 4 times through out my 4 week pct

 

[Niles]

Has anyone experimented with a combination of epiandrosterone/androsterone? Any unique effects, or just weaker than androsterone on it's own mg for mg? I naively bought epiandrosterone in a product advertised as androsterone, but I've since gotten the legit ironmaglabs R-andro. In the interest of cost effectiveness, I'm thinking about cycling 100mg of each 3 times a day for 4 weeks.

 

[D4n]

I’m currently on day 7 of R-Andro, since I’ve been taking it I feel a bit more agitated and my mood has been generally lower. I have zero pump when working out ,Has anyone here had a SnapBack off Andro ? Maybe feeling bad on it is a good sign

 

[vicecaz]

@D4n it depends on people but if I recall correctly a lot of guys on swolesource didn't have fun while on R andro, feeling down mentally etc

There should be a snap back, maxout and cdnuts felt massive improvements after their 4th cycle
How much are you taking ?

 

[MNK99]

1. If I'm looking stronger on 2 weeks (or less, IDK) of R-andro and a few days of 4-Andro , this won't disappear after the cycle correct?
I'll use pct and keep working out. I've only just started.

2. What's the dosage of 3rd and 4th cycles? Like 600-800mg a day?
3. Can I use an equivalent amount of 4-Andro? And some of the stuff from

-K1NGS BLOOD (post cycle therapy taken to help keep gains and restore optimal hormonal balance)- K1ngs Blood by Olympus Labs
-ON CYCLE SUPPORT:
-ESTRO STRIKE 2.0 (estrogen blocker and prolactin inhibitor) - Estro Strike 2.0 By Assault Labs

 

[D4n]

@vicecaz I’m taking 200mg a day, it may be the estrogen suppressing effects doing this which could be a good thing. @MNK99 I look a bit more masculine on it so far but don’t feel it lol.

 

[MNK99]

@D4n R-Andro crushes estrogen, that's why I took a hint from Ihatefin, Walker, and Aztec and got some 4-Andro. My estradiol was low, and I didn't want to walk around like Frankenstein. Still kind of stiff, I took 400mg of R-A and 4-A yesterday, split pre and post workout.

 

[D4n]

I was thinking to crush estrogen to make it more sensitive, then forcing DHT to upregulate on the SnapBack to oppose estrogen in my case where 5ar2 may be downregulated<<< this theory may be incorrect lol

 

[Chapman]

I've just bought some from Ebay, can't wait to give it a go!

 

[Niles]

Quick question for you guys:

I like the idea of stacking r-andro with 4-andro to reduce low-e sides, but isn't 4-andro more suppressive than r-andro?

 

[TubZy]

Quick question for you guys:

I like the idea of stacking r-andro with 4-andro to reduce low-e sides, but isn't 4-andro more suppressive than r-andro?

Yes, specifically because it is estrogenic. Estrogen is more suppressive on the HPTA compared to DHT.

 

[Niles]

Yes, specifically because it is estrogenic. Estrogen is more suppressive on the HPTA compared to DHT.

Ah, interesting. What would you suggest as PCT?