Raw meat, raw milk, raw honey

RebelWithACause

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I see more and more people talk about this. I followed sv3rige in the past. I do not follow him closely. But now I read this on one of my favorite blogs:

Diet Secrets of the Elite (Raw Meat Barbarian Diet)

What do you think? Is this diet a legitimate approach or do you think it is nonsense?

I think your body thinks like this: food is food.

It will extract amino acids, minerals, vitamins, etc. no matter what.

Who knows if the bacteria are beneficial or if they are useless and better off killed by cooking.

There is a reason why we have developed how we are now. We are not the same as other species.

What do you think guys?
 

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This guy is seriously a good blog writer. His inspirational style to write is very grasping. No wonder guy is making millions with his blog.
 

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What he says makes sense. Yet the way he lives seems very low energy.

The fact that vegetables like brocolli are made by humans is weird. Yet we all eat a lot of it.

In my country you cannot even get potatoes naturally. Yet we eat them whole year.

This is why I think he has good points. But on the other hand. Maybe optimised health is an unnatural diet.
 

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What he says makes sense. Yet the way he lives seems very low energy.

The fact that vegetables like brocolli are made by humans is weird. Yet we all eat a lot of it.

In my country you cannot even get potatoes naturally. Yet we eat them whole year.

This is why I think he has good points. But on the other hand. Maybe optimised health is an unnatural diet.
What he is doing is the same stupidity like raw vegan. Both extremes are even worse than diet of average american in my opinion..
 

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What he is doing is the same stupidity like raw vegan. Both extremes are even worse than diet of average american in my opinion..

I think it is not optimal. He also eats rotten meat. But still this guy makes me think. The blog triggered me when I read it. And Sv3rige triggered me when I watched him. And when I get triggered I know he hits a truth somewhere.

If you look at some of the tribes in Africa they also eat mostly meat, blood and milk.

Vegan diet is pushed a lot. In supermarket here in Holland there are soy products everywhere. Fake meats, soy milk, soy this, soy that.

Soy is cheap I think this is main reason. This is capitalism. People want to make product as cheap as possible and sell for most profit. This is the problem with capitalism. And probably why soy is being pushed to masses. Not because they literally want to poison us. It is because they want to get money.
 
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Yes of course. He has some good points like 90% of people have. But what he is doing is simply stupid and argument with african tribe? They eat what is available not because it is healthy and if it fits their genetics and they doing well on it? Good for them, but that doesn't mean that everybody can eat the same things with the same outcome lol..
 

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Yes of course. He has some good points like 90% of people have. But what he is doing is simply stupid and argument with african tribe? They eat what is available not because it is healthy and if it fits their genetics and they doing well on it? Good for them, but that doesn't mean that everybody can eat the same things with the same outcome lol..

Yes but we are born in certain country/area where a lot of the food we eat now is not available naturally. For example in Europe you would probably eat mostly meat, some berries, etc. Not all the things we eat now: potatoes, exotic vegetables, fruit, etc.

I personally eat all these things but if you think about it, it is unnatural.
 

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Yes but we are born in certain country/area where a lot of the food we eat now is not available naturally. For example in Europe you would probably eat mostly meat, some berries, etc. Not all the things we eat now: potatoes, exotic vegetables, fruit, etc.

I personally eat all these things but if you think about it, it is unnatural.
So what? I thing that it's completely irrelevant. You should eat what fits YOUR body and also your life style. Good luck working as construction worker on berries and meat (for example)..You can't compare lifestyle 500 years ago and now. People back then were working in 60 yo? No they were dead in 25..
 

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So what? I thing that it's completely irrelevant. You should eat what fits YOUR body and also your life style. Good luck working as construction worker on berries and meat (for example).. I don't know what you trying to say.

I think you are right. But I still think it is weird.

Why?

Because if those foods are not available in that area. For example Europe. How were humans thriving 1000 years ago in Europe? You know what I mean? They did not have potatoes and a lot of fruit yet they still had to work hard and probably thrived on it. Otherwise they would die. Nature is a tough son of a bitch. They had to deal with much tougher things then we do now, physically.

We now have luxury of having foods everywhere from whole world. But if our genetics have not changed much we should still be able to thrive on our natural diet from the area we live in. And not get sick and die very young. That is how I see it.

People probably died young from infections and viruses. Not from cancer and heart disease.

We should be able to thrive in the environment we grow up in. Unless of course you are immigrated from Africa or other country.

For example:

There is a reason why white people live in Europe and colder area's. Blue eyes actually have a purpose: you see better in darkness. Blue eyes are more sensitive to light. In Europe it is often darker then in Africa where it is light until very late. A European would thrive in cold, an African would not.

Same goes for diet. Maybe in some country they have a lot of fruit. Those guys probably thrive on high fruit diet. ETC.
 
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I wanted to write something long, but this is pointless.. We have the privilege now to eat what we think is the best for us. We are not 24/7 in survival mode. We have so much information about everything. So use it as you want.. But don't push some one type of diet on all people. It's stupid like this carnivor guy on the videos..
 

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I wanted to write something long, but this is pointless.. We have the privilege now to eat what we think is the best for us. We are not 24/7 in survival mode. We have so much information about everything. So use it as you want.. But don't push some one type of diet on all people. It's stupid like this carnivor guy on the videos..

I don't care what you eat. It is food for thought. These guys have unique view of the world. Which is why I think it interesting. Most people think and talk the same.

Same reason why I think gbolduev is interesting guy because he has different look on health.

Where is his hairline lol...also I'm surprised he does not have parasites

I believe looks are genetics. This is why some people can blast all the steroids steroids, take all the drugs and fuck up their body completely and still have full head of hair and good skin. They can probably eat toxic waste and still not lose their hair.

I don't think the diet contributed to this.

And why some guys get fucked over by slight imbalance.
 
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Where is his hairline lol...also I'm surprised he does not have parasites

Dont worry, its 100% he has parasites.
The raw milk could be good for some, I would love it if I could digest it.
I have never seen an extreme dietist look this good and full of energy, alphaness, strong personality like for example this guy:
You can see just the way he talks and the difference how other extremists talk.
Imo natural, balanced bodybuilders are in the best state of life.
 
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RebelWithACause

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Dont worry, its 100% he has parasites.

I have never seen an extreme dietist look this good and full of energy, alphaness, strong personality like for example this guy:
You can see just the way he talks and the difference how other extremists talk.
Imo natural, balanced bodybuilders are in the best state of life.

He used anabolic steroids in the past as a strongman. Who knows if he is natural. I like Elliot Hulse though. Used to watch him all the time.

Victor Pride, writer from blog:

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Looks healthy to me.

This is the problem. Looks can be deceiving.

Same goes for vegans on anabolic steroids with a shit diet. They look healthy because of muscle mass. Not because they are healthy.

Anabolic steroids give you a shit ton of energy, muscles, etc. Will even make your face look healthier and your eyes more popping. Still it is unhealthy if we go by Helen's information.

Looks can be deceiving. It is a saying not for nothing.
 

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He used anabolic steroids in the past as a strongman. Who knows if he is natural. I like Elliot Hulse though. Used to watch him all the time.

Victor Pride, writer from blog:

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Looks healthy to me.

This is the problem. Looks can be deceiving.

Same goes for vegans on anabolic steroids with a shit diet. They look healthy because of muscle mass. Not because they are healthy.

Anabolic steroids give you a shit ton of energy, muscles, etc. Will even make your face look healthier and your eyes more popping. Still it is unhealthy if we go by Helen's information.

Looks can be deceiving. It is a saying not for nothing.

Might have sounded I stated Elliot is natural, I know he used steroids in the past. For now who knows.
I know naturals who feel very good, I also was one of them. And will be again. Just had hairloss.
 

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Might have sounded I stated Elliot is natural, I know he used steroids in the past. For now who knows.
I know naturals who feel very good, I also was one of them. And will be again. Just had hairloss.

I also felt best when I did natural bodybuilding/heavy lifting. Absolutely. I was eating good amount of carbs and fruit too. I was not even eating clean all the time. I could eat whatever and feel great as long as I got 8 hours sleep. I was very high energy. Without caffeine. Was also taking creatine which seemed to improve my mental state too. But I think that is what started hairloss.
 

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I also felt best when I did natural bodybuilding/heavy lifting. Absolutely. I was eating good amount of carbs and fruit too. I was not even eating clean all the time. I could eat whatever and feel great as long as I got 8 hours sleep. I was very high energy. Without caffeine. Was also taking creatine which seemed to improve my mental state too. But I think that is what started hairloss.

Just existing in that state is pure gold:)
And you can always get a transplant if you want some hair.
 

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Just existing in that state is pure gold:)
And you can always get a transplant if you want some hair.

Yes. Once you lost it you notice what you have lost. You do not notice it that much when you are in it but once it is gone you do.

The creatine enhanced it, it seemed. Probably from higher DHT. Made me even more confident and recover fairly quick from heavy workouts.

I can say anabolic steroids do not make you feel the same. Maybe because of lack of pregnenolone or other hormones.

It was worth the experiment but now back to basics and get better again (normal T + DHT levels).
 
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