Reverse penile fibrosis and testicular shrinkage

[stupidfreak]

Hi guys!!!

Just to give you a new update. There are no real changes. Shrinkage is worse than ever before. Testicles are so damn up and small and penis has never been so short and thin (in erect and flaccid state). But i think its still too earl to make conclusions of my protocol. I think natural supplements take a lot more time. I will go on and give you an update all 2-3 weeks here. For now i can say that my depression is better (maybe because of the discipline, good nutriution, sport and cold showers), I will stay on this protocol for 2-3 months and than decide to go on or to switch on some extreme things.

Hey,have you hac your testies ultrasounded?They will tell you your size.Maybe it will be at a normal range?

Mine are also really up sometimes,like im age 7 or something.Always used to hang low for me all the time pre pfs.

Scary stuff,i hope i wont develop the same things.

 

[health]

This was the clenching of my pelvic floor, and by association, anxiety. Goldstein had told me that onset of PSSD and PFS usually coincides with high stress periods. That's what people on the Hard Flaccid forums said also, and Accutane people...etc...etc...

I went to physiotherapy center for per rectum pelvic floor massaging. It made me realize, how stiff I am down there. It may be just a coincidence, but my dick feels larger and balls are hanging lower. I recommend you all to give it a try.

 

[eskimojoe]

guys apologies if a bit graphic but, id be interested in getting more info on what your ed symtoms feel like. Mine feel very like a venous leak, ie with a lot of concentration i can get it up but then feel like its a race against the clock before it gets soft, just want to check if others have had similar experience. Cheers

 

[Ghost]

I went to physiotherapy center for per rectum pelvic floor massaging. It made me realize, how stiff I am down there. It may be just a coincidence, but my **** feels larger and balls are hanging lower. I recommend you all to give it a try.

I am of the opinion that many of the physical changes in PSSD/PFS are due to pelvic floor problems of some sort. This could be soft glans, hard flaccid, how your balls hang, some forms of pain and numbness too.

 

[health]

guys apologies if a bit graphic but, id be interested in getting more info on what your ed symtoms feel like. Mine feel very like a venous leak, ie with a lot of concentration i can get it up but then feel like its a race against the clock before it gets soft, just want to check if others have had similar experience. Cheers

Yea, you can put it in myriad of ways, but it's one of symptoms.
Some other would be: balls hang higher to the body, shaft gets softer, even if you reach ereciton - you can't keep it etc.

 

[stupidfreak]

Yea, you can put it in myriad of ways, but it's one of symptoms.
Some other would be: balls hang higher to the body, shaft gets softer, even if you reach ereciton - you can't keep it etc.

Pretty much got all of theese.

I dont think pfs is due to pelvic floor problems,rather it causes it due to hormonal imbalance/receptors damage.

 

[health]

Pretty much got all of theese.

I dont think pfs is due to pelvic floor problems,rather it causes it due to hormonal imbalance/receptors damage.

It's surely not DUE TO pelvic floor problems, but pelvic floor problems may be due to it. So now it would also be due to pelvic floor problems...;')

 

[joekool]

I’ve doing some stretches. Def can’t hurt and I’m definitely stiff as a board. I sit all day.

There are nerves there. One is pudendal which is shown to have damage from Fin. Another is psoas muscle. Ghost put the idea in my head and I’ve been doing it twice a week for about 2 weeks now. 5 mins is nothing compared to what I've spent already.

Give it a go

 

[raven]

I've been doing reverse kegels ever since Ghost mentioned this on the PSSD forum. I think it's like @health said, the SSRI/finasteride definitely caused the initial issue, but that understandably led to tension, stress and depression all of which can create problems of their own, amplify existing problems or be barriers to recovery. Whenever someone reports a worsening of symptoms after a year or so the culprit surely has to be one of these secondary issues. It just doesn't make sense otherwise.

 

[Ghost]

The people who recover from this say that you need to hit the trigger points, treat anxiety (or more just learn about how HF isn't a big deal - it's just a muscle being stuck in a tense state), and then stretches. I got the best trigger point book in the world on inter-college library loan. It's used to write "A headache in the pelvis and the HF book" I'll be taking that info and relaying it when I have a chance. Sticking a finger or wand up your a** might not seem fun, but neither are the symptoms we have.

But yes, trigger points are important. Very important, and I still haven't found a way to get to them yet. That's one of my next steps. I've also been prescribed a suppository that relaxes muscles in the region. Not a long term fix but I'll start testing that later this week. If that does something substantial (results with pelvic pain are mixed), then I know that tension is a big role in my PSSD. I assume some people with PFS/PSSD have like 90%+ from the drug, but I'm sure that there are some people who have more pelvic problems than PFS/PSSD problems, and they just don't know because the symptoms can overlap a bit. Also, physiology is individual in all people. So a nerve on one person might be easier to block than in another.

 

[Area-1255]

Maybe GHK-Cu + Fasudil would be even better!

 

[hopeforrecovery]

Whats up guys here is my new update!

You know that i decided to stay some months only on natural things to get my base fixed. I also started with some kegel exercise 2 times in week. Since i started no real improvements in shrinkage and soft glans. But now i will tell you my good experience this week. Maybe the best experience ever since my PFS!!!!!!!!

I came home really late at night and had to go to work the day after. So i only had 3 hours of sleep! And the next day my libido was f*cking high. Also erections were better. Maybe 70-80% .But sadly the same shrunk size. When i came home i decided to stay alone in bed all night and to observe things. I was masturbating and touching my penis the whole evening/night. And here it comes: The orgasm felt so damn great. Incredible. It was so intense and i really forgot how good it could be. I know that i should stay abstinent in my recovery but my libido was so high that it was impossible to not masturbate. I remember that 6 months ago i had the same good orgasm experience with "adderall", but i decided to stop it because its not a cure and it gaves me bad side effects.

But the most important question is:

What happens in brain (with hormones and neurotransmitter) when we are sleepless??? I really swear thats nothing psychological my libidso was damn high and oirgasm felt like PRE-PFS, maybe better!!!!!
You should all try to be sleepless for a night or just sleep 3-4 hours. I feel more human again.

I will try to reduce my sleep time and to see if maybe 5-6 hours are less enough to see some improvements. A new element in my a protocol ( I will write you my whole supplements,exercises,m diet and things that i do for recovery next time.)


Another bad thing is that i see how my testicles become smaller and smaller. Do you guys think that this could be recognized in a blood test? I feel like im the only person with PFS, who experiences such a testicular shrinkage. I red that in 99% of cases teesticular shrinkage is because of hormonal problems but why can it not be treat easy? Same thing of course with my penile shrinkage.


Hope i could help this topic with my new experience. Stay strong guys!

 

[stupidfreak]

Whats up guys here is my new update!

You know that i decided to stay some months only on natural things to get my base fixed. I also started with some kegel exercise 2 times in week. Since i started no real improvements in shrinkage and soft glans. But now i will tell you my good experience this week. Maybe the best experience ever since my PFS!!!!!!!!

I came home really late at night and had to go to work the day after. So i only had 3 hours of sleep! And the next day my libido was f*cking high. Also erections were better. Maybe 70-80% .But sadly the same shrunk size. When i came home i decided to stay alone in bed all night and to observe things. I was masturbating and touching my penis the whole evening/night. And here it comes: The orgasm felt so damn great. Incredible. It was so intense and i really forgot how good it could be. I know that i should stay abstinent in my recovery but my libido was so high that it was impossible to not masturbate. I remember that 6 months ago i had the same good orgasm experience with "adderall", but i decided to stop it because its not a cure and it gaves me bad side effects.

But the most important question is:

What happens in brain (with hormones and neurotransmitter) when we are sleepless??? I really swear thats nothing psychological my libidso was damn high and oirgasm felt like PRE-PFS, maybe better!!!!!
You should all try to be sleepless for a night or just sleep 3-4 hours. I feel more human again.

I will try to reduce my sleep time and to see if maybe 5-6 hours are less enough to see some improvements. A new element in my a protocol ( I will write you my whole supplements,exercises,m diet and things that i do for recovery next time.)


Another bad thing is that i see how my testicles become smaller and smaller. Do you guys think that this could be recognized in a blood test? I feel like im the only person with PFS, who experiences such a testicular shrinkage. I red that in 99% of cases teesticular shrinkage is because of hormonal problems but why can it not be treat easy? Same thing of course with my penile shrinkage.


Hope i could help this topic with my new experience. Stay strong guys!

Really glad for you.Since your libido is high,do you get erection without physical stimulation?

 

[health]

Whats up guys here is my new update!

You know that i decided to stay some months only on natural things to get my base fixed. I also started with some kegel exercise 2 times in week. Since i started no real improvements in shrinkage and soft glans. But now i will tell you my good experience this week. Maybe the best experience ever since my PFS!!!!!!!!

I came home really late at night and had to go to work the day after. So i only had 3 hours of sleep! And the next day my libido was f*cking high. Also erections were better. Maybe 70-80% .But sadly the same shrunk size. When i came home i decided to stay alone in bed all night and to observe things. I was masturbating and touching my penis the whole evening/night. And here it comes: The orgasm felt so damn great. Incredible. It was so intense and i really forgot how good it could be. I know that i should stay abstinent in my recovery but my libido was so high that it was impossible to not masturbate. I remember that 6 months ago i had the same good orgasm experience with "adderall", but i decided to stop it because its not a cure and it gaves me bad side effects.

But the most important question is:

What happens in brain (with hormones and neurotransmitter) when we are sleepless??? I really swear thats nothing psychological my libidso was damn high and oirgasm felt like PRE-PFS, maybe better!!!!!
You should all try to be sleepless for a night or just sleep 3-4 hours. I feel more human again.

I will try to reduce my sleep time and to see if maybe 5-6 hours are less enough to see some improvements. A new element in my a protocol ( I will write you my whole supplements,exercises,m diet and things that i do for recovery next time.)


Another bad thing is that i see how my testicles become smaller and smaller. Do you guys think that this could be recognized in a blood test? I feel like im the only person with PFS, who experiences such a testicular shrinkage. I red that in 99% of cases teesticular shrinkage is because of hormonal problems but why can it not be treat easy? Same thing of course with my penile shrinkage.


Hope i could help this topic with my new experience. Stay strong guys!

A quickie - just regarding your thoughts of testicular shrinkage.
Get them measured with USG. That will give you a definite answer. One of not-so-many we're able to get here.
I had same thoughs as you, but doc has shown me that the're acutally just above the norm.

 

[stupidfreak]

A quickie - just regarding your thoughts of testicular shrinkage.
Get them measured with USG. That will give you a definite answer. One of not-so-many we're able to get here.
I had same thoughs as you, but doc has shown me that the're acutally just above the norm.

Yep,thats what i said.But it showed me i def had shrinkage,but not a drastic one.

 

[barbaar]

Whats up guys here is my new update!

You know that i decided to stay some months only on natural things to get my base fixed. I also started with some kegel exercise 2 times in week. Since i started no real improvements in shrinkage and soft glans. But now i will tell you my good experience this week. Maybe the best experience ever since my PFS!!!!!!!!

I came home really late at night and had to go to work the day after. So i only had 3 hours of sleep! And the next day my libido was f*cking high. Also erections were better. Maybe 70-80% .But sadly the same shrunk size. When i came home i decided to stay alone in bed all night and to observe things. I was masturbating and touching my penis the whole evening/night. And here it comes: The orgasm felt so damn great. Incredible. It was so intense and i really forgot how good it could be. I know that i should stay abstinent in my recovery but my libido was so high that it was impossible to not masturbate. I remember that 6 months ago i had the same good orgasm experience with "adderall", but i decided to stop it because its not a cure and it gaves me bad side effects.

But the most important question is:

What happens in brain (with hormones and neurotransmitter) when we are sleepless??? I really swear thats nothing psychological my libidso was damn high and oirgasm felt like PRE-PFS, maybe better!!!!!
You should all try to be sleepless for a night or just sleep 3-4 hours. I feel more human again.

I will try to reduce my sleep time and to see if maybe 5-6 hours are less enough to see some improvements. A new element in my a protocol ( I will write you my whole supplements,exercises,m diet and things that i do for recovery next time.)


Another bad thing is that i see how my testicles become smaller and smaller. Do you guys think that this could be recognized in a blood test? I feel like im the only person with PFS, who experiences such a testicular shrinkage. I red that in 99% of cases teesticular shrinkage is because of hormonal problems but why can it not be treat easy? Same thing of course with my penile shrinkage.


Hope i could help this topic with my new experience. Stay strong guys!

I had a similar experience after a sleepless night at a festival once. Popping boners like it was nothing the next morning and horny as hell. Didn't last though, and I need a lot of sleep to be able to function otherwise so it's not something I can try too often.

 

[hopeforrecovery]

Really glad for you.Since your libido is high,do you get erection without physical stimulation?

No without physical stimulations it's still impossible. But just to tell you. Improvements are only there when I'm sleepless. It's nothing permanent.

I would like to hear joekool's opinion about this. He told me that I should sleep very deep and good but are 6 hours enough? I would really like to sleep less hours because of the improvements.

Yep,thats what i said.But it showed me i def had shrinkage,but not a drastic one.

And have you done a blood test??? Could they recognize something in your hormonal values because of the testicular shrinkage?

 

[stupidfreak]

No without physical stimulations it's still impossible. But just to tell you. Improvements are only there when I'm sleepless. It's nothing permanent.

I would like to hear joekool's opinion about this. He told me that I should sleep very deep and good but are 6 hours enough? I would really like to sleep less hours because of the improvements.



And have you done a blood test??? Could they recognize something in your hormonal values because of the testicular shrinkage?

Im waiting on results.Only had quick ultrasounding twice,my shrinkage isnt that bad

 

[hopeforrecovery]

Im waiting on results.Only had quick ultrasounding twice,my shrinkage isnt that bad

Also penile shrinkage or just testicular?

 

[stupidfreak]

Also penile shrinkage or just testicular?

Only testicular.I cant say for sure man.I cant get erections,but when i had id say no.