Reverse penile fibrosis and testicular shrinkage

[stupidfreak]

Also penile shrinkage or just testicular?

Also i think you should focus on getting your libido and erections back.Whats the point of a big dick and balls if you cant use them?

 

[hopeforrecovery]

A quickie - just regarding your thoughts of testicular shrinkage.
Get them measured with USG. That will give you a definite answer. One of not-so-many we're able to get here.
I had same thoughs as you, but doc has shown me that the're acutally just above the norm.

Have you done a blood test because of your testicular shrinkage?
Im just wondering because this must be recognizable in a blood test.
I can't not imagine that all my hormonal levels in a blood test are normal while my balls (and penis) are shrinking.

 

[stupidfreak]

Have you done a blood test because of your testicular shrinkage?
Im just wondering because this must be recognizable in a blood test.
I can't not imagine that all my hormonal levels in a blood test are normal while my balls (and penis) are shrinking.

I done it,i told you im waiting for results.

They very well can be.Your androgene recepotors became insensitive to androfenes and thats causing your condition.

Hop on ru or ella.

Please try to get your sexual side effects reverse.Focus on that.I doubt that you will be happy if your shrinkage would reverse today but it would leave you impotent.

 

[joekool]

Hey All

Wow, that's some odd news... but in a PFS state, I'd say anything is possible...

First, during deep sleep, our bodies release the highest amount of hormones including testosterone and growth hormone, with levels peaking upon waking up... this is the initial cause of morning wood... it is during this overnight release that nocturnal erections return health & functionality and said hormones provide their healing qualities... So that's why I primarily focus first on returning sleep and night time hormone levels. Side note, night time erections or morning wood can certainly show the penile functionality is not damaged but our ED is related to neurosteroids (anxiety, Gaba, etc) .

So I would've bet by limiting sleep, you would've blunted the release of hormones I'm mentioning... however, your experience suggests something clearly different... instead of blunting the release, the hormones continued but you were awake to feel them. That's just my first opinion, I'd have to research further...

More questions though : When you refer to testicle shrinkage, are you saying the testicles feel smaller or your entire scrotum is high and tight to your body?

Have you tried the L-Arginine (3G) & L-tyrosine (1G) combo to see if you trigger an erection during normal day time hours, with fuller blood flow and likely glan?

Have you looked into a fertility drug like Clomid or enclomid to bring your testicles back online (if you're experiencing a shutdown of sorts, showing smaller testicles and lower testosterone levels on blood work) ?

Have you altered your diet or avoided anything for days, like sugar or PUFAs??

Ultimately, have you built a protocol with consistency ?? I think you have but I want to check again... it'll help others on this thread who have similar timeframes of recovery...

Still, if you find a 6 hour sleep aids in your recovery and allows you to function, I would say get in the rhythm and use it to your advantage here...

Keep us posted and I'm going to check on sleep patterns...

 

[hopeforrecovery]

Hey All

Wow, that's some odd news... but in a PFS state, I'd say anything is possible...

First, during deep sleep, our bodies release the highest amount of hormones including testosterone and growth hormone, with levels peaking upon waking up... this is the initial cause of morning wood... it is during this overnight release that nocturnal erections return health & functionality and said hormones provide their healing qualities... So that's why I primarily focus first on returning sleep and night time hormone levels. Side note, night time erections or morning wood can certainly show the penile functionality is not damaged but our ED is related to neurosteroids (anxiety, Gaba, etc) .

So I would've bet by limiting sleep, you would've blunted the release of hormones I'm mentioning... however, your experience suggests something clearly different... instead of blunting the release, the hormones continued but you were awake to feel them. That's just my first opinion, I'd have to research further...

More questions though : When you refer to testicle shrinkage, are you saying the testicles feel smaller or your entire scrotum is high and tight to your body?

Have you tried the L-Arginine (3G) & L-tyrosine (1G) combo to see if you trigger an erection during normal day time hours, with fuller blood flow and likely glan?

Have you looked into a fertility drug like Clomid or enclomid to bring your testicles back online (if you're experiencing a shutdown of sorts, showing smaller testicles and lower testosterone levels on blood work) ?

Have you altered your diet or avoided anything for days, like sugar or PUFAs??

Ultimately, have you built a protocol with consistency ?? I think you have but I want to check again... it'll help others on this thread who have similar timeframes of recovery...

Still, if you find a 6 hour sleep aids in your recovery and allows you to function, I would say get in the rhythm and use it to your advantage here...

Keep us posted and I'm going to check on sleep patterns...

Thanks for that. I will go on with 6 hours of sleep daily. It increases my anxiety but my sexual function is definitely better. Anxiety but better erections. Sounds weird but that's reality. For your questions:

-testicles are definitely become smaller in last months and the scotrum is also very high To my body. Do you think that this testicular shrinkage could be recognized in a blood test?

-I tried high doses of arginine in combination with l-tyrosin, but it didn't helped my erection quality.

-no i didn't try clomid. It's because I wanted to stay just on natural supplements for some months. But would you recommend to take clomid because of my testicular shrinkage? Or maybe in some months? For how long in which dose would you recommend this?

-I'm doing a diet including a lot of sorghum, spinach and other vegetables. I'm avoiding sugar and all type of fast food.

-I will write my whole protocol here with all types of supplements,exercises and diets here the next days. I'm still trying to find out new things for my recovery. To be sleepless will be a new element for my next weeks.

 

[stupidfreak]

Thanks for that. I will go on with 6 hours of sleep daily. It increases my anxiety but my sexual function is definitely better. Anxiety but better erections. Sounds weird but that's reality. For your questions:

-testicles are definitely become smaller in last months and the scotrum is also very high To my body. Do you think that this testicular shrinkage could be recognized in a blood test?

-I tried high doses of arginine in combination with l-tyrosin, but it didn't helped my erection quality.

-no i didn't try clomid. It's because I wanted to stay just on natural supplements for some months. But would you recommend to take clomid because of my testicular shrinkage? Or maybe in some months? For how long in which dose would you recommend this?

-I'm doing a diet including a lot of sorghum, spinach and other vegetables. I'm avoiding sugar and all type of fast food.

-I will write my whole protocol here with all types of supplements,exercises and diets here the next days. I'm still trying to find out new things for my recovery. To be sleepless will be a new element for my next weeks.

Dude.Have them ultrasounded.They will give you your exact testies size down to a 0.1mm.Please.i dont know why you are talking about bloodtest.Its easy

 

[MNK99]

I agree that it may be best not to focus on it till you have some improvements.
But if you must know, I think ultrasound or some other urology scans are the way to go. I don't think blood-tests can pinpoint shrinkage at all. Some guys have super high test and other hormonal values and have shrinkage. I did get blood tests but only as a snapshot, so I can see changes later. You may need blood tests prior to that tho. They can't correlate hormones to anatomical changes that easily, as far as I know.

Then again, it could be good to know your progesterone and estradiol, tsh, test, dht, and other values. May as well test as much as you can.
@hopeforrecovery

 

[Ghost]

The sleep thing is common with PSSD people. I get it when I'm cramming for exams and stuff.

 

[MNK99]

There are people with mood disorder and depression / similar issues claim that one or two nights (not ten!) of no sleep cures their depression for a time.
I gotta say I felt more in control and mostly have written morning exams, done interviews, invested, etc with no sleep (as a 20-something). Early appointments too.
Unsustainable forever obviously. I felt hyped up and ready to get exams done (high school, universities), and too energized to fall asleep. Not ideal, but better than missing them/ not preparing.
I'm talking about before and after PSSD. And I'm sure after PFS too. This may not be normal, but its the best I can do.

 

[hopeforrecovery]

Dude.Have them ultrasounded.They will give you your exact testies size down to a 0.1mm.Please.i dont know why you are talking about bloodtest.Its easy

Dude. Im not Talking about getting the Symptomes of shrinkage recognized. I want to know the cause. And I really think that a bad testicular shrinkage has to do with low hormonal values. I don't need an ultrasonic test for my testicles. I know that I suffer from shrinkage. This will not help.

 

[stupidfreak]

Dude. Im not Talking about getting the Symptomes of shrinkage recognized. I want to know the cause. And I really think that a bad testicular shrinkage has to do with low hormonal values. I don't need an ultrasonic test for my testicles. I know that I suffer from shrinkage. This will not help.

You could track your progress if you would ultrasound them
You could se if they are in rage of an average man if you ultrasound them
You know,just out the top of my head,ultrasound would show if your testicle structure is intact,if their bloodpath is in norm(no varicese).And a lot more.Dude.

Your cause is pfs.Its hormone-related.Dou you have sexual sypthoms as well?Didnt you just say that you want to recognize your shrinkage via bloodtest?
You have to get your blood tests done no matter what.

 

[Minime]

Dude. Im not Talking about getting the Symptomes of shrinkage recognized. I want to know the cause. And I really think that a bad testicular shrinkage has to do with low hormonal values. I don't need an ultrasonic test for my testicles. I know that I suffer from shrinkage. This will not help.

I have the exact same shrinkage issue you describe and my hormones are all in range except for estrogen, which is very high.

 

[joekool]

HIGH estrogen leads to two things. High prolactin and low testosterone. I would see if you benefit from an anti estrogen

 

[Minime]

HIGH estrogen leads to two things. High prolactin and low testosterone. I would see if you benefit from an anti estrogen

Yeah, that’s where my labs are screwy:
Estrogen, Total, Serum: 220.3 pg/ml [60 - 190]
Prolactin: 4.5 ng/dL [2.0 - 18.0]

I did try resveratrol but shedded hair like crazy so I jumped off of it. May have something to do with my Hoshimoto’s, not sure.

What I need to do is get a hair analysis done. That will be my next step.

 

[RedStaR]

Do the ones who get better from sleep deprivation also improve from caffiene? It might be a GR issue.

 

[joekool]

How is this thread going?

Hey redstar, good question ... maybe it’ll get more exposure if you list on a new thread?
Definitely interested in what others experience

 

[hopeforrecovery]

Hello Guys,

New update after a while:

My mood has become so much better and I experience a lot of more energy during the day. My sleep has also improved. I only sleep 6-7 hours but I don't feel tired during the day.
Bad news are that my shrinkage has become worse and i don't really not what to do.if i should go ahead with my natural protocol or try a shockwave therapy and maybe PRP (priapus shot). Sometines my erection is OK and I can have some minutes of sex with l-arginin. But soft glans and numbness is extreme. Girls asking me if my penis has shrunk. It just becomes thinner and thinner it's crazy. Maybe I should wait some other weeks but I'm not anymore really optinistic.

Greetings

 

[hopeforrecovery]

Another symptom which I noticed becoming worse is the hard flaccid. When I go to toilet it's all so damn tightened. It feels like a little bone of a finger or something. When I start to squeeze it it becomes softer but this scares me.
Does anybody experience this?

 

[barbaar]

Another symptom which I noticed becoming worse is the hard flaccid. When I go to toilet it's all so damn tightened. It feels like a little bone of a finger or something. When I start to squeeze it it becomes softer but this scares me.
Does anybody experience this?

I've noticed this too. It comes and goes though, although it's always there slightly on the left side.

 

[Goose12]

Another symptom which I noticed becoming worse is the hard flaccid. When I go to toilet it's all so damn tightened. It feels like a little bone of a finger or something. When I start to squeeze it it becomes softer but this scares me.
Does anybody experience this?

I had this for months after I crashed but it went away the better I got all around. I can't remember exactly when it stopped happening but i think it was after my first round of r andro.