RU + Progesterone Cycle (PFS, PSSD)

[bruschi11]

If I were you now @Jack17 I'd get back to the health stuff. I'd have hair test done. Check oxidation status, eat to that status. I wouldn't do any type of ARL balancing at that point we wouldn't want to mess with that.

Maybe start working with betaine HCL/ aminos now like histidine, serine.. Zinc finger/ GCU stuff.

This is awesome where you are. Fingers crossed for you man, I think you'll keep improving either way the way its gone for you.

 

[Jaxx]

Been a full week off progesterone now. Mood goes up and down, libido is low-ish, but woke up with strong wood today (actually woke up due to it). I feel i did benefit from prog, especially flaccid state and getting an erection.
Going for another cycle tomorrow, too early to tell if it will also help for emotions.

Only other thing i am taking is loratadine (antihistamine) because my hayfever is kicking in badly. If i take too much of it then it becomes somewhat difficult to orgasm. Crazy really, from mild PE to lasting longer than normal. Not sure if the progesterone plays a role in this as well, as PE is often associated with erection issues.

 

[Trump_1776]

I also have kind of a weird symptom. It's difficult to describe but I will attempt anyway to see if anyone has noticed the same. I have this ever so light tightness deep in my sinus area. It's not unpleasant and infact it feels abnormally pleasant. It's almost as if I am clenching my jaw but it's a good feeling. And I have been in a good mood for the past week or so and have felt more mentally clear. I started getting a migraine Sunday and my mood of course was bad that day but otherwise this has been an exceptional several days. I wonder if it's a feeling of more normal brain chemistry. Time will tell!

Could be allergies. When I get off Andro and have the snap back my allergies kick in. Everyone is different but I found it odd

 

[Jack17]

Been a full week off progesterone now. Mood goes up and down, libido is low-ish, but woke up with strong wood today (actually woke up due to it). I feel i did benefit from prog, especially flaccid state and getting an erection.
Going for another cycle tomorrow, too early to tell if it will also help for emotions.

Only other thing i am taking is loratadine (antihistamine) because my hayfever is kicking in badly. If i take too much of it then it becomes somewhat difficult to orgasm. Crazy really, from mild PE to lasting longer than normal. Not sure if the progesterone plays a role in this as well, as PE is often associated with erection issues.

Hi Jaxx,
Have you tried RU or Ella between the progesterone cycle?

 

[Jaxx]

Hi Jaxx,
Have you tried RU or Ella between the progesterone cycle?

No i havent, i did try ella about half year ago with small benefits. Main reason not to try it yet is because i try to match the propeciahelp method. Might try ella again in the future however.

 

[Jack17]

Update:
This is 14 days post Ella and 20 days after stopping progesterone. I continue to feel good and I feel like I am doing even just a little better every day (almost.) I'm having strong morning wood every morning, ED is at probably 90% and libido 80-85%. Mood is good and thinking/mental clarity continues to improve. I am still taking choline and inositol daily. I'm not sure if it is actually helping but I don't think it hurts and seems benign enough. I take Nicotinamide daily and Vitamin D every couple days. I am very happy with current state. I'll wait couple more weeks before considering this might be a recovery. I still have this interesting slight feeling in my head. It's difficult to describe but almost like a pleasant tightness. It's mild but noticable. I'm wondering if it's the result of a normalization of neurohormones (hopefully!) I did get a migraine last Sunday. I have a history of migraines but during this PFS that typically signaled a worsening of symptoms. I've noticed a strong correlation between rising prolactin and headache. I didn't put this connection together until a couple months ago but it's consistent. I took half a caber last Sunday and it resolved quicker than normally and no noticable drop off. I strongly recommend others try this protocol.

 

[Jack17]

No i havent, i did try ella about half year ago with small benefits. Main reason not to try it yet is because i try to match the propeciahelp method. Might try ella again in the future however.

I know what you mean about following the propeciahelp method and if you're benefiting I'd stick with it. I am currently of the opinion that Ella may have some sort of synergistic effect. If your interested, I would dose Ella 10 mg daily for 2-3 days but do it after you have stopped progesterone for a couple days and do not restart progesterone until Ella is out of your system, about 6 days or so later. I've had a great response to it.

 

[Jaxx]

I know what you mean about following the propeciahelp method and if you're benefiting I'd stick with it. I am currently of the opinion that Ella may have some sort of synergistic effect. If your interested, I would dose Ella 10 mg daily for 2-3 days but do it after you have stopped progesterone for a couple days and do not restart progesterone until Ella is out of your system, about 6 days or so later. I've had a great response to it.

Thanks, i might try that in a while. I tried ella before, it did seem to help a bit in the first couple of days, but not strong enough itself to stick. Maybe with prog there is synergy indeed.

 

[bruschi11]

I’m legit impotent from hydrogen water/ detox protocol @Jack17 ...got another 10 days of this stuff.

Refreshing having in the back of my mind if I need something bad eventually I have this protocol that worked for me. On two seperate occasions.

The guys that have primarily sexual issues should really attempt this in my POV.

 

[hairsuit]

Yeah. I’m starting to get that feeling that even with ARL, something like this may be necessary for the sexual sides. Or maybe I just need to be on ARL longer.

 

[bruschi11]

Yeah. I’m starting to get that feeling that even with ARL, something like this may be necessary for the sexual sides. Or maybe I just need to be on ARL longer.

Or when you stop it you’ll see the sexual sides improve. Clearly depends on person though.

 

[Jack17]

Update:
Post Ella 17 days and post progesterone 23 days. Everything is still holding. Fingers are crossed! Libido is about 80-85% and ED is 90%. Mental stuff has resolved. I hope I continue to improve but if symptoms stay at current state I would be very satisfied considering the hell I've (we all!) been through. As I have said in the past, I believe in the progesterone Ella/ RU protocal. Just a side note. I am taking Vitamin D more regularly than before. I don't think it a huge thing but I do remember last Summer in Mexico I actually started feeling just a little improvement while on vacation. Of course I was in the sun a lot and wondering if it made a difference. Just a thought.

 

[IHateFin]

Update:
Post Ella 17 days and post progesterone 23 days. Everything is still holding. Fingers are crossed! Libido is about 80-85% and ED is 90%. Mental stuff has resolved. I hope I continue to improve but if symptoms stay at current state I would be very satisfied considering the hell I've (we all!) been through. As I have said in the past, I believe in the progesterone Ella/ RU protocal. Just a side note. I am taking Vitamin D more regularly than before. I don't think it a huge thing but I do remember last Summer in Mexico I actually started feeling just a little improvement while on vacation. Of course I was in the sun a lot and wondering if it made a difference. Just a thought.

So you only took 5mg of Ella for a 2 days?

 

[bruschi11]

He really got going @IHateFin with RU followed by prog cycles. Ella seems to have given him a bump too. He used caber a lot with it.

He really is a “light at the end” protocol success story thus far with the addition of ru and Ella. Other guys gotta get on this that are just sexual side based.

Once I put away my neurological, gut symptoms completely I’ll probably jump back to this if need be.

 

[Jack17]

So you only took 5mg of Ella for a 2 days?

So what actually happened was that I was getting a pretty reasonable benefit from taking progesterone topically for about 7 days then off for 2-4 days and somtimes taking RU between progesterone cycles but then ( you can read in my posts) while on progesterone the benefit started fading and I was frustrated as I didn't know why it was not working anymore. This damn thing is so frustrating to begin with! Anyway I thought I was taking progesterone too long or the off time wasn't long enough so in frustration I stopped everything. After one week I decided to take Ella not for any particular reason as I could have easily just took RU again. Anyway, after about 4 days I noticed a slow but continued improvement. I think I have documented this above. I'd really encourage other guys to try this protocol.
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[Jack17]

He really got going @IHateFin with RU followed by prog cycles. Ella seems to have given him a bump too. He used caber a lot with it.

He really is a “light at the end” protocol success story thus far with the addition of ru and Ella. Other guys gotta get on this that are just sexual side based.

Once I put away my neurological, gut symptoms completely I’ll probably jump back to this if need be.

Agree!

 

[RuProgStack82]

Where can I get lla? What is it? Can I buy it online in an anabol store? I only have RU and Prog for the cycle. Do you think I can begin with this protocol with ru and prog only?

 

[Sam90]

Where can I get lla? What is it? Can I buy it online in an anabol store? I only have RU and Prog for the cycle. Do you think I can begin with this protocol with ru and prog only?

EllaOne is just the morning after pill Ulipristal acetate. You can find it online quite easily or ask a girlfriend to get one on prescription. I was wondering where you got your RU, I the website I tried didn't work.

 

[IHateFin]

Where can I get lla? What is it? Can I buy it online in an anabol store? I only have RU and Prog for the cycle. Do you think I can begin with this protocol with ru and prog only?

goldpharma.cn has legit ella. mine just came in from them yesterday

 

[Jaxx]

Where can I get lla? What is it? Can I buy it online in an anabol store? I only have RU and Prog for the cycle. Do you think I can begin with this protocol with ru and prog only?

Its otc in some western european countries. In netherlands for instance its in the supermarket for 19,95. Not sure how its in germany.