RU + Progesterone Cycle (PFS, PSSD)

[Jack17]

@Jack17 awesome to hear you are doing well with this. This is awesome, I'm so glad we have a few dudes trying this now.

I was waiting because I just ate like shit all weekend, but I just said F it today. I took 10mg progesterone earlier today and will be taking RU tonight 25mg.

Okay, good! Nice to compare notes on this. So my thoughts are ( though I don't know for sure and I could be way off base) that doing the short progesterone treatment possibly resets the receptor (or something NOS) Possibly the RU/Ella during or after resensitizes this pathway.
Although I definitely feel better and libido is better, still around 70% if I had to estimate. For the record I started feeling the improvement at about day 3 of progesterone.

 

[bruschi11]

Okay, good! Nice to compare notes on this. So my thoughts are ( though I don't know for sure and I could be way off base) that doing the short progesterone treatment possibly resets the receptor (or something NOS) Possibly the RU/Ella during or after resensitizes this pathway.
Although I definitely feel better and libido is better, still around 70% if I had to estimate. For the record I started feeling the improvement at about day 3 of progesterone.

Honestly I felt a mild libido boost 3 hours after prog application today. Took inositol too so it may have been the combination.

RU will be eaten in about an hour.

Prog hit me in fatigue department bad already I wonder how much RU is gonna hurt or even help. But I just feel like my dick is so much more alive right now. I feel far more normality sexually with the prog in my system than not. But I just want to be on a couch so bad haha I’m toast, brain fog bad.

 

[Jack17]

Honestly I felt a mild libido boost 3 hours after prog application today. Took inositol too so it may have been the combination.

RU will be eaten in about an hour.

Prog hit me in fatigue department bad already I wonder how much RU is gonna hurt or even help. But I just feel like my dick is so much more alive right now. I feel far more normality sexually with the prog in my system than not. But I just want to be on a couch so bad haha I’m toast, brain fog bad.

Right! I know what you mean. I’ve noticed the same thing. It’s like you don’t know how numb your d*ick is until it feels normal again. Big difference!! It’s been over a year since it’s felt this normal. I think I should probably also start inositol. What dose are you using?

 

[bruschi11]

I don’t know like 5-10g is what I used today. @IHateFin uses up to 20g or so.

RU actually helped with fatigue issues. But it seems to have lowered sexuality haha. I’d actually prefer way I feel now because was fatigue was so shitty yesterday. Hopefully I wake up tomorrow hard as hell and horny we’ll see!

 

[IHateFin]

yeah i did 20 plus g a day. the urge to crap were immense haha but i def responded well to that high of a dose

 

[bruschi11]

Yea I woke up with a pretty gross (prolactin) headache this morning. Hopefully upping inositol helps.

Did you get headaches @IHateFin ? I know @TubZy did. Did inositol help the headaches if so?

 

[TubZy]

Yea I woke up with a pretty gross (prolactin) headache this morning. Hopefully upping inositol helps.

Did you get headaches @IHateFin ? I know @TubZy did. Did inositol help the headaches if so?

Anything that is anti prolactin should work if prolactin is the issue
Caber is the most common suggested here.

 

[bruschi11]

Anything that is anti prolactin should work if prolactin is the issue
Caber is the most common suggested here.

Yup. Metergoline, lisuride they both crashed me with fatigue last time. I’m just hoping inositol can carry me through the next couple of days or so. It should, I’m doing better now.

Sexually whatever, dead-ish dick but I have more libido. That’s just a weird combo to have haha I feel like I’m thinking about women more right now and I have that “libido feeling” but my dick is just down for the count haha.

It’s prolactin and it will fade a couple days after you I’m hoping. If not I’m gonna have to get ahold of caber or metergoline.

 

[TubZy]

Yup. Metergoline, lisuride they both crashed me with fatigue last time. I’m just hoping inositol can carry me through the next couple of days or so. It should, I’m doing better now.

Sexually whatever, dead-ish dick but I have more libido. That’s just a weird combo to have haha I feel like I’m thinking about women more right now and I have that “libido feeling” but my dick is just down for the count haha.

It’s prolactin and it will fade a couple days after you I’m hoping. If not I’m gonna have to get ahold of caber or metergoline.

Do you think the inositol could be the actual culprit though or no?

 

[bruschi11]

No. The first time I used RU I needed the metergoline to stop the dead dick. Dead dick stopped, but fatigue increased.

I’m just going to use inositol, add in l-dopa hopefully tomorrow and hope these can help the prolactin. Continue with prog as well. If I have to, I’ll resort back to metergoline (if I have it/can find it).

One more RU dose tomorrow morning.

 

[Jack17]

No. The first time I used RU I needed the metergoline to stop the dead dick. Dead dick stopped, but fatigue increased.

I’m just going to use inositol, add in l-dopa hopefully tomorrow and hope these can help the prolactin. Continue with prog as well. If I have to, I’ll resort back to metergoline (if I have it/can find it).

One more RU dose tomorrow morning.

Hi....How much RU are you taking? The Inositol tabs I have are 500mg. So that would be 10-20 tabs... Does that sound right to you?

 

[bruschi11]

@Jack17

Like 20mg of RU per day. And yes that sounds right to me. I’m using a powder and like taking 10 times the dose

 

[noprop]

Hi Bruschi, what is your latest protocol on prog/ru? You mentioned also taking additional things like inositol and others.

Would you mind writing a comprehensive protocol (what to take in order to do what, amounts and time of taking. How do you treat sides caused by the protocol if so). I ask you that cause your protocols and others are not always the same it seems.

Thx a lot!

Do you get the stuff from your doc? How did you convince him or her?

 

[MNK99]

Doctor unlikely,
Buy online amazon/Haidut for prog; source talk-ru.
Mifepristone (RU486) Source
-get all your substances online or from connections in the real world; except for substances needed for well known medical conditions, pfs isn't one of them.
-Other stuff --- it's mostly a waste of time relying on docs. NOT ALWAYS, but often. Sorry to sound cynical. It's possible but takes a lot of patience and persuasion, and rules dictate that they often will not go against the grain to help a patient with some issue they cannot verify, and in their mind may not exist, and their code of conduct cannot justify.
-Metergoline can need a prescription, but it's online too - others know where to get it... I'm not at that stage yet.

 

[noprop]

Thx, I have seen that already. But taking metergoline needs prescription, doesn't it?

 

[IHateFin]

Yea I woke up with a pretty gross (prolactin) headache this morning. Hopefully upping inositol helps.

Did you get headaches @IHateFin ? I know @TubZy did. Did inositol help the headaches if so?

I never got headaches from inositol or progesterone. Only ru gave me headaches when I did my 2nd cycle that ran too long

 

[Jack17]

On the third day of RU I also got a headache. I thought it was from elevating Prolactin so I took Caber.

 

[bruschi11]

Took L-DOPA (mucuna pruriens) 800mg today after having some of the prolactin sides last night and this morning. Seems to have done something- getting random erections since.

Libido was high on this- just erections bad/premature ejaculation. Its all prolactin- I just don't think I can deal with the cabergolines/lisurides of the world due to fatigue issues. So hoping L-Dopa/inositol will do the trick and I'm going to up vitamin e and b6 this next week or so too.

Going to dose progesterone at night since this fatigues me as well. Prog increases prolactin, so might as well do it right before bed.

That all said, I feel libido and erections now and it feels good. Wish I wasn't at work haha.

 

[Jack17]

Took L-DOPA (mucuna pruriens) 800mg today after having some of the prolactin sides last night and this morning. Seems to have done something- getting random erections since.

Libido was high on this- just erections bad/premature ejaculation. Its all prolactin- I just don't think I can deal with the cabergolines/lisurides of the world due to fatigue issues. So hoping L-Dopa/inositol will do the trick and I'm going to up vitamin e and b6 this next week or so too.

Going to dose progesterone at night since this fatigues me as well. Prog increases prolactin, so might as well do it right before bed.

That all said, I feel libido and erections now and it feels good. Wish I wasn't at work haha.

Great...I'm still feeling pretty good except libido and morning wood down just a bit today. I think it might be hard to manage all the changes but I think it could be prolactin like you said. I took some Inositol. I also have Selegiline ( they used it on Propecia help) to manage prolactin. Might be getting a little gynoco from estrogen. Not sure if I should take a little low dose of Clomid. I've tried DIM before but I think that did not work out.

 

[brix]

Took L-DOPA (mucuna pruriens) 800mg today after having some of the prolactin sides last night and this morning. Seems to have done something- getting random erections since.

Libido was high on this- just erections bad/premature ejaculation. Its all prolactin- I just don't think I can deal with the cabergolines/lisurides of the world due to fatigue issues. So hoping L-Dopa/inositol will do the trick and I'm going to up vitamin e and b6 this next week or so too.

Going to dose progesterone at night since this fatigues me as well. Prog increases prolactin, so might as well do it right before bed.

That all said, I feel libido and erections now and it feels good. Wish I wasn't at work haha.

What do you think causes premature ejaculation? And what helps eliminate it? I go through periods of it