RWAC's PFS log (on the TEI train)

[RebelWithACause]

I think I had too much zinc in diet and not enough copper. I notice big difference when I eat copper food. My libido goes back up, I get warmer and I do not feel anxious anymore. I also notice with too much zinc I become extremely sensitive to sounds. And I get jumpy. Also OCD type symptoms.

A.K.A. low estrogen type of symptoms.

It is not weird because I was eating a lot of red meat and no copper food. Before that I used high amount of zinc supplement. Will keep you updated.

 

[Helen]

I think I had too much zinc in diet and not enough copper. I notice big difference when I eat copper food. My libido goes back up, I get warmer and I do not feel anxious anymore. I also notice with too much zinc I become extremely sensitive to sounds. And I get jumpy. Also OCD type symptoms.

A.K.A. low estrogen type of symptoms.

It is not weird because I was eating a lot of red meat and no copper food. Before that I used high amount of zinc supplement. Will keep you updated.

yeah, but you felt like shit eating liver you said.


I actually think carnivor diet i good in some cases for a short term.

it provides phosphors and b1. but that is just for some cases.

I used it for my cycling which I posted in my log. for NADPH precursors.


Copper basically lowers DHT. and thus you secrete less aldosterone , which spares the potassium

But at the same time copper lowers thyroid. since it retains calcium.

 

[Helen]

Check this out,

you see you have fast or slow oxidizer

Fast Oxidizer Diet – Jeremy E. Kaslow, M.D.

 

[MNK99]

-A Nice Writeup there.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Check this out,

you see you have fast or slow oxidizer

Fast Oxidizer Diet – Jeremy E. Kaslow, M.D.

When I do low carb diet I get more slow oxidizer feeling. Apathy, lethargy, introverted. Cold hands, cold all the time. Dry skin.

Today I eat more food with copper, carbohydrates and I feel energized, extroverted. I sweat sitting down doing nothing. Feel hot cheeks. Extroverted. Especially if I do not eat too much heavy meals like saturated fat + high protein.

Today I eat: raw shrimp (250g), olive oil, good amount of dark chocolate (this has some caffeine obviously), orange juice and white rice. I feel good. Really warm, etc. So this seems to work better for me then low carbohydrate diet. I seem to forget this and fall for diet fads and fuck myself up. Yesterday felt cold and not good. When you posted about it it made sense. This is why I stopped it again.

Tonight I will eat vegetable again for first time after a while. Spinach probably. Plus some fish and bit of rice.

Liver makes me feel uptight. But next few days I feel higher libido and better. So it is right after eating it I feel tired and restless. Then next day I feel better then normal.

With dark chocolate I can eat it and have no problems like that.

Not sure if I am fast or slow. I got TEI test coming so we will see.

 

[Helen]

@RebelWithACause I am the same, chocolate has magnesium with copper , that is why , and liver does not.

so when you take copper magnesium is getting used up and when you eat chocolate it is smooth.

 

[Ingeno]

Check this out,

you see you have fast or slow oxidizer

Fast Oxidizer Diet – Jeremy E. Kaslow, M.D.

It is funny because I have all the symptoms of the slow oxidizer, yet TE ranks me as a fast, contradicting and confusing.

 

[RebelWithACause]

I think I definitely had too much zinc in my diet. Today I do not eat red meat. Eat high copper food (dark chocolate) and slowly throughout the day my vision is sharp again. Colours are brighter. It feels like I am living again. Like you are actually walking the Earth. Instead of robot feeling.

But we will see how I feel tomorrow. Going to go to bed early today. I slept 5 hours or something.

I was sometimes eating 1kg of red meat. Which is a lot of zinc. And contains no copper.

 

[RebelWithACause]

My experience is very close to this guy:

Suspected Copper Deficiency. Thoughts And Ideas

After I used high zinc dosage I felt off. Like low estrogen symptoms. OCD. And also worrying about stupid shit. All signs of low estrogen.

When I eat copper food I feel better. Just like this guy he feels bad when he takes copper but then after few hours or next day he feels BETTER.

Eventually he fixed himself supplementing copper.

I am not going to supplement copper, Just eat more copper food for a while.

Also waiting on hairtest.

 

[Ingeno]

@RebelWithACause you used haartest.nl? Curious to see your results and what the practitioner said, mine had some contradicting views on TEI which I will share later when I have some more time.

 

[RebelWithACause]

@RebelWithACause you used haartest.nl? Curious to see your results and what the practitioner said, mine had some contradicting views on TEI which I will share later when I have some more time.

Yes I did. You too? I will post results when I have them.

 

[Ingeno]

Yes used the same site, took 2.5 weeks to get my results, started Friday with the supplements and totally killed my libido lol.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Yes used the same site, took 2.5 weeks to get my results, started Friday with the supplements and totally killed my libido lol.

Jesus man. Fuck that LOL. Are you still taking it.

 

[Helen]

Yes used the same site, took 2.5 weeks to get my results, started Friday with the supplements and totally killed my libido lol.

keep taking the program. Stop looking at libidos. but you have to follow diet and take supps.

 

[K8668B]

too much zinc fucks me up bad too. but a tiny bit of zinc, with copper, helps me out alot.

 

[RebelWithACause]

I am quitting creatine again. Seems to fuck up my sleep like crazy. I wake up with adrenaline. Just bad feeling. Also I feel lower libido last few days. I had same experience last time. I take creatine for a while in beginning I feel good and then start feeling bad.

This guy has similar problem:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Fitness/comments/3o4enn

Maybe high copper food is also not good idea so gonna leave that at that and just quit creatine.

Not sure if this is caused by PFS since other people have it too I read online. Could just be body chemistry.

Maybe this is why people cycle creatine. Last time I also had similar experience. And some people online seem to share it (also non-PFS guys).

It takes week or so to get back feeling better/like you are off creatine so I will update in week.

 

[Ingeno]

keep taking the program. Stop looking at libidos. but you have to follow diet and take supps.

I will keep taking them, I've been through worse phases of my life LOL, the hardest part is the chemical depression that pops up now and then, like zero motivation and enjoyment. I get that with high dose zinc, and TEI gives me 50mg zinc and 0,3mg copper, but I assume they have a reason for that.

@Helen, the only thing that is not clear to me. 3/4 lows can hide your real oxidation rate like fast/slow, but TEI ranks me as a fast, is it bad if I eat foods for fast if I'm actually a slow oxidizer? Low energy levels, low heartbeart, cold hands etc. All signs of a slow oxidizer right? How would you rate my HTMA? (In signature)

 

[Ingeno]

Jesus man. Fuck that LOL. Are you still taking it.

Yes, my plan is to ride out those 3 months, and then will probably retest. I can keep experimenting with supplements or hormones, but in the end they will fuck you up because you have no clue what is going on in your body. At least TEI has years of experience which gives me some confidence in their programs, the positive part is you don't have to think about anything, just take and eat what they recommend and live your life. In the end if you are getting close to balanced I think it is fine to drop all the supplements and have a balanced diet, maybe add a good multi once a week or a low dose B-complex once in a while. I think that is the ultimate goal.

 

[Ingeno]

Also @RebelWithACause you also took Finasteride right? I had the phone call with my practitioner yesterday, and he was convinced that finasteride leaves a 'blueprint' behind and changes the way hormones/receptors work and it is very hard to fix this because the blueprint that finasteride left behind is blocking all kind of reactions in your body that a normal person has no problems with. It smells a little like bullshit, because he was also promoting a device that could reverse this blueprint with a device called 'photon wave'. He needed the actual finasteride pills for this to work and with the structure of finasteride he creates a series of light therapies to reverse this blueprint. Sounded weird.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Also @RebelWithACause you also took Finasteride right? I had the phone call with my practitioner yesterday, and he was convinced that finasteride leaves a 'blueprint' behind and changes the way hormones/receptors work and it is very hard to fix this because the blueprint that finasteride left behind is blocking all kind of reactions in your body that a normal person has no problems with. It smells a little like bullshit, because he was also promoting a device that could reverse this blueprint with a device called 'photon wave'. He needed the actual finasteride pills for this to work and with the structure of finasteride he creates a series of light therapies to reverse this blueprint. Sounded weird.

That is bullshit my friend haha. He wants to sell you his shitty tool. Fear = biggest persuasion technique in marketing. Fuck that guy. I would never talk to him again.

It is true it fucks you up obviously. But that device won't do shit I can tell you.

This is my old hairtest by the way: