RWAC's PFS log (on the TEI train)

[ruprmurdoch]

it is just iron chelator, and iron chelation...see what it does ,,Ferroptosis is an iron-dependent cell death, which is different from apoptosis, necrosis, autophagy, and other forms of cell death. The process of ferroptotic cell death is defined by the accumulation of lethal lipid species derived from the peroxidation of lipids, which can be prevented by iron chelators (e.g., deferiprone, deferoxamine)"

Ferroptosis: mechanisms and links with diseases - Signal Transduction and Targeted Therapy

Ferroptosis is an iron-dependent cell death, which is different from apoptosis, necrosis, autophagy, and other forms of cell death. The process of ferroptotic cell death is defined by the accumulation of lethal lipid species derived from the peroxidation of lipids, which can be prevented by iron...

www.nature.com

i think lower Fe lower inflamation, better potassium absorption by body and therefore higher T

 

[RebelWithACause]

Ok nice. Definitely worth a shot then. Thanks for the info. I think lower iron is better yes in all ways possible. I really had a blind eye to it, thought I knew better lol. I believed the thing that "heme iron is controlled by the body!". But then I saw this guy who did carnivore for only a year and he had insanely high iron in his tissues just after a year.
Of course there's more factors. E.g. activity level, b vitamins, metabolism, etc. But the amount of red meat I ate was far beyond what my body could use so then it's stored.

 

[ruprmurdoch]

I recall that I wrote one year ago here that carnivore diet is very dangerous.

Ps. the more I read scientific articles about infection/parasites and iron, the more I'm confident that Helen was right that to to kill bug you need to elevate ROS even higher to increase oxidative stress. So actually it is like helen wrote -if you want to get better and heal the cause of your problem, you first have to feel worse. And if you want to feel good right now, you will get worse in the end

Studies show that malaria (which is the same family like toxoplasmosis) is cured better worse when antioxidative substances are in abundance: for example Vitamin E for 100%


So first You have to increase ROS, even few times, and the use antioxidant substances

 

[MNK99]

My uncle, also a self employed trader was really into Shawn Baker, but then isn't... Told me about the lies in there, a bit. But was really adament about me not always using cast iron and rather than 80-90R% red meat, do like 40-50%, and the rest sardines, oysters, tuna, and some other stuff.

I guess carbs still mess w him, but he doesn't train. He used to drink for like 20yrs, some weed, then none of either. Drinks a bit, most men in my family do but way less than 20s and 30s.

He seems to want variety and finds carnivore boring but also is like... "you gotta do it this way." Keto is far easier, but hard to maintain, I may be 0-2g carbs 4-5d a week and 8010g, and 20-30g or even 100g every 12-14days. or something but for sure stomach probs, instant inflammation and look less lean. Like drop 8-10lbs a week and gain some muscle 1lb or so maybe half a pound i doubt it.

I think im down 15 on scale, down 20 in real life and up 5lbs lean mass. soon down 30-33, and up 7, but sure I'm on a tiny bit of gear (replacement dose or beyond of test... was beyond), less tho now.

I do fast 24-33hrs a few times a week, no carbs 7000-1100 cals is fine, w carbs 1400-1600, one day 3000-4000.

Perhaps it makes me a lot stronger in gym,.. some carbs help mental health, some hurt... the fake flavors, artificial bread stuff hurts.

Surely, I'd have more options in Europe. Canada is fkd. It will get better in future tho, and as I have more mny, I'll be able to do whatever I want, can hire a chef a tiny bit/ caterer a few x a mo, or more.
Maybe even weekly, but saving up first.

 

[RebelWithACause]

I recall that I wrote one year ago here that carnivore diet is very dangerous.

Ps. the more I read scientific articles about infection/parasites and iron, the more I'm confident that Helen was right that to to kill bug you need to elevate ROS even higher to increase oxidative stress. So actually it is like helen wrote -if you want to get better and heal the cause of your problem, you first have to feel worse. And if you want to feel good right now, you will get worse in the end

Studies show that malaria (which is the same family like toxoplasmosis) is cured better worse when antioxidative substances are in abundance: for example Vitamin E for 100%


So first You have to increase ROS, even few times, and the use antioxidant substances

Yup it;'s true. I felt like death for weeks to months. But I knew it improved me.

For example if you take things that lower a mineral that you are toxic in. The moment you lower/block it you feel deficient symptoms and then the body proceeds to use it from your tissues, brain, liver, etc. You feel horrible in the brain/mentally because you kinda destablize it. But then once you introduce this mineral again from food or from supplement you will now see your body utilizes it much better and you feel better than ever before.

So while doing any of this stuff you feel worse because you get deficient temporarily or you have something killed in the body, etc.

I have a hypothesis that if your body is sometimes overloaded in it a mineral your body can still crave it more than normal. For example with iron I noticed I crave it more and more. But felt worse and worse. Could be that parasite use it. But I think it's your body regulation is F-ed up so brain thinks the body is deficient while being overloaded with it. Same with copper but can probably happen to any mineral you have too much in.

I think that only happens when you have way too much.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Even that RFK guy promotes carnivore now while he's on TRT. He looks completely iron overloaded too. Red/bronze face, terrible hair, skin, etc.'also the shaky voice (parkinsons?) TRT + carnivore is insane lol wtf

OF course he is older guy but he just doesn't look healthy. I know Asian grandpa's who outrun/outpace that guy and they barely eat red meat.

Not saying red meat is bad because it has good stuff and I ate a lot of it. but once overdone it's just as bad as anything else that's overdone. Once that threshold is reached it's very bad

 

[MNK99]

Even that RFK guy promotes carnivore now while he's on TRT. He looks completely iron overloaded too. Red/bronze face, terrible hair, skin, etc.'also the shaky voice (parkinsons?) TRT + carnivore is insane lol wtf

OF course he is older guy but he just doesn't look healthy. I know Asian grandpa's who outrun/outpace that guy and they barely eat red meat.

Not saying red meat is bad because it has good stuff and I ate a lot of it. but once overdone it's just as bad as anything else that's overdone. Once that threshold is reached it's very bad

Bro he's old and had a rich family coming up... his skin is from heroin and cocaine and drinking and tanning and smoking 50 yrs. He was a sex addict and drug addict, till he got sober, and finished law school.
He is really smart, at least in the articulation aspects. He was a good environmentalist. It does look a bit crazy, seeing his leathery skin and he's like so healthy for an old American, but then he looks worn out, waring jeans lifting lol.

But I think his life and upbringing, his uncle and father being murdered and all, play a role with his addictions.
Kennedy's is a crazy clan.
He'd be diagnosed ADHD if he grew up 20yrs ago or now. Impulse control disorder, but managed pretty damn well in his case, at least past his 30s and 40s. I think so at least. I'll hear him out more.

Carnivore and hormones is pretty crazy. Carniv and HRT+/dex. Need something... im crippled wtf. Haha. I need something so I can still workout 6-8x, at times 10-12x a week. I'm a bit older now.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Bro he's old and had a rich family coming up... his skin is from heroin and cocaine and drinking and tanning and smoking 50 yrs. He was a sex addict and drug addict, till he got sober, and finished law school.
He is really smart, at least in the articulation aspects. He was a good environmentalist. It does look a bit crazy, seeing his leathery skin and he's like so healthy for an old American, but then he looks worn out.

But I think his life and upbringing, his uncle and father being murdered and all. Kennedy's is a crazy clan.

Carnivore and hormones is pretty crazy. Carniv and HRT+/dex. Need something... im crippled wtf. Haha. I need something so I can still workout 6-8x, at times 10-12x a week. I'm a bit older now.

He's not healthy bro. My dad is his age and is way fitter than him and my dad probably has lower testosterone levels vs. this guy.

Dude just has muscles from the TRT and it's like when people see muscles it bypasses their "unhealthy" radar. Dude looks severely iron overloaded and probably other shit like copper as well. Very bad.

Doesn;'t mean he's a bad guy. But promoting carnivore diet and being on TRT is crazy and lots of people will follow him. When you put yourself out there as a health expert with your face and body then in my opinion people are allowed to critique you.

I'm not saying I am healthier than him. Probably am tho. But I know I don't know shit. These people think they know and then inform the public without knowing anything either. THat's wrong.

 

[MNK99]

He is pretty orange or tanned, he def looks like he had hard living for sure. Yeah I mean, a lot of people are healthier, but he has good points and ideas. I am sure he had serious substance abuse decades. Maybe relapsed at times, I mean his ex wife found a journal of women he slept with and kept track of and unfortunately, committed suicide. SO he is no saint, at all. For sure he is a good guy, but not the best example of health... I think typical (non stupid ones), bodybuilders and biohackers (not Ryan Russo) but guys here, or you know many 18-30 year old gym goers are on right track.

Yeah it could be iron for sure, I am sure he has imbalances of course. I guess copper as well, I will look into it...

I didn't actually see him promote TRT, by itself... it is pretty useless. Meat, sunlight, exercising a lot ... will do more than TRT for like 40-50% of people at least.

AND kids more and more, like the first 18-20 yr old men I talk to at the gym, are asking me about gear.. and like are inquiring about mk677 etc. That is social media and algos and wanting to look good, more than our politicians tho for sure.

I agree with you tho for most part. But I think he is just trying to remove some of the red tape... and vested interests tied into health and all, medical and pharmaceutical and research industries.

 

[ruprmurdoch]

too much iron is deffinetly bad. trt + iron is really bad. even vitamin c is bad when you want to chelate to much iron. read this article : https://www.malariaworld.org/blogs/vitamin-c-and-malaria-beware
do not take vit c if you want to get rid of iron
if malaria and toxoplasmosis is one family of parasites then we can assume that when we want to get rid of it we should not use synthetic vit c.
studies suggest that anti malaric substances (so probably anti toxoplasmosis as well) are: retinol and zinc, this articles in internet showing it:

1.Major reduction of malaria morbidity with combined vitamin A and zinc supplementation in young children in Burkina Faso: a randomized double blind trial
2.Synergistic interaction between atovaquone and retinol in Plasmodium falciparum in vitro

currently I'm also non meat eater for abt 2 weeks. smth happen to my taste after third cycle of bactrim. i stooped crave it. maybe body want to get rid of iron beacuse it is i think most important mineral for parasite proliferation ?
anyway, after third cycle my igg antibodies dropped and my testosterone elevates. but i still feel there is infection (and lab tests for antibodies are showing this). i jumped on malarone drug which is atovaquone+pro guanil, which is antimalaric drug, but they sometimes use it for toxo. we will see if igg antibodies will drop as aresult of this drug.

btw. MNK99 thanks for nice input abt RFK, did not know that

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[Fazed22]

Even that RFK guy promotes carnivore now while he's on TRT. He looks completely iron overloaded too. Red/bronze face, terrible hair, skin, etc.'also the shaky voice (parkinsons?) TRT + carnivore is insane lol wtf

OF course he is older guy but he just doesn't look healthy. I know Asian grandpa's who outrun/outpace that guy and they barely eat red meat.

Not saying red meat is bad because it has good stuff and I ate a lot of it. but once overdone it's just as bad as anything else that's overdone. Once that threshold is reached it's very bad

I mean the guy is 71 years old and an ex herorin and cocaine addict... The voice thing is not Parkinsons it's Spasmodic dysphonia a condition affecting the voice that he's had for 30 years. So given his history and age I would cut the guy some slack, most people his age aren't nearly as active he is, he is working full time and lifting weights reguarly. Average age of retirement is around 60-65 usually.

 

[Fazed22]

I think I am a bit iron overloaded, maybe. I ate a lot of red meat for a pretty long period. I don't feel good eating it anymore. I will experiment with lowering my iron intake, see how I feel.

If red meat is making you feel bad then most likely you will feel better donating blood

 

[RebelWithACause]

Dude like this shouldn't be eating carnivore. He got a fucking stroke lol. Then have people gaslight him in the comments or at least not point out that carnivore diet probably makes his imbalance worse
Of course he is old and probably sick in all types of way. But especially older people should be more aware of what they do if they want to feel better long term

This guy has been eating carnivore for a while and gets a stroke now. Correlation or not. It's almost a meme at this point to recommened carnivore for everybody./

Only ones it's good for is people with lower iron and zinc (pyoluria maybe) and long term you will be topped up if you eat it daily. So no way you can eat it very long term like decades. Unless you have some insane metabolism that uses it all up

 

[RebelWithACause]

He is pretty orange or tanned, he def looks like he had hard living for sure. Yeah I mean, a lot of people are healthier, but he has good points and ideas. I am sure he had serious substance abuse decades. Maybe relapsed at times, I mean his ex wife found a journal of women he slept with and kept track of and unfortunately, committed suicide. SO he is no saint, at all. For sure he is a good guy, but not the best example of health... I think typical (non stupid ones), bodybuilders and biohackers (not Ryan Russo) but guys here, or you know many 18-30 year old gym goers are on right track.

Yeah it could be iron for sure, I am sure he has imbalances of course. I guess copper as well, I will look into it...

I didn't actually see him promote TRT, by itself... it is pretty useless. Meat, sunlight, exercising a lot ... will do more than TRT for like 40-50% of people at least.

AND kids more and more, like the first 18-20 yr old men I talk to at the gym, are asking me about gear.. and like are inquiring about mk677 etc. That is social media and algos and wanting to look good, more than our politicians tho for sure.

I agree with you tho for most part. But I think he is just trying to remove some of the red tape... and vested interests tied into health and all, medical and pharmaceutical and research industries.

True what you're saying

 

[ruprmurdoch]

Dude like this shouldn't be eating carnivore. He got a fucking stroke lol. Then have people gaslight him in the comments or at least not point out that carnivore diet probably makes his imbalance worse
Of course he is old and probably sick in all types of way. But especially older people should be more aware of what they do if they want to feel better long term

This guy has been eating carnivore for a while and gets a stroke now. Correlation or not. It's almost a meme at this point to recommened carnivore for everybody./

Only ones it's good for is people with lower iron and zinc (pyoluria maybe) and long term you will be topped up if you eat it daily. So no way you can eat it very long term like decades. Unless you have some insane metabolism that uses it all up

There is no way that nowadays someone is iron defficent

 

[RebelWithACause]

There is no way that nowadays someone is iron defficent

Maybe if you are young and have low stomach acid.

Check out this website: Iron Manganese DRI/RDA, benefits, side effects, overdose, toxicity, requirements

Also interesting

 

[RebelWithACause]

I mean the guy is 71 years old and an ex herorin and cocaine addict... The voice thing is not Parkinsons it's Spasmodic dysphonia a condition affecting the voice that he's had for 30 years. So given his history and age I would cut the guy some slack, most people his age aren't nearly as active he is, he is working full time and lifting weights reguarly. Average age of retirement is around 60-65 usually.

Don't advice people on health if you don't live the part. That's my opinion. If he was a heroin addict and cocaine addict for years why even advice others on health or put yourself out there as an example of health?

Now he is on TRT and feels better obviously. But he's not healthy. But because he has muscles in his 70s he is reverered as a healthy guy. Most people gain muscles on steroids. Even in PFS when I felt like dogshit and was sick I used testosterone and gained a ton of muscle with a few months. Plus gave me physical energy but mentally very tired and drained, slow, etc. I was very sick but people thought I was healthy and asked me advice and stuff.

I think steroids mask a lot but underneath body is sick and you'll see it in someones skin quality for example, liver health, fast aging.

I just took him as an example as someone who is iron toxic (probably). Shit skin, red face, etc. looks old and bad.

Take away his TRT and you'll see the real him You'd be shocked probably. Dude can probably barely get out of his bed at that point. In 70s you can look very healthy. Not young per se but healthy.

 

[RebelWithACause]

If red meat is making you feel bad then most likely you will feel better donating blood

Yea probably. I hope I can lower it normally without donating blood. But if it takes too long maybe I can look into it

 

[RebelWithACause]

I'll see if i can find a good wormwood supp this week.

 

[Fazed22]

Wormwood is toxic don't take that, unless you're in a bad state of health like pfs state or gut issues then I don't think these antimicrobials do much.