SIMPLE DETOX PROTOCOL FOR DUMMIES( heavy metals, drugs)

[Helen]

@sanka well, you are following TE program.
You cant substitute anything in the program. Otherwise it won't work. How are you feeling on this?

 

[sanka]

I feel the same as when i start, or i dont know if worst

 

[sanka]

Oh mi god, i bought another supplement

 

[Helen]

Oh mi god, i bought another supplement

What did you buy?

 

[Shanks]

7) Microsilica( gets rid of most heavy metals and especially aluminium

@gbolduev can you give some advice how/how much to use Microsilica? My ARL hairtest shows me high aluminium (and some Hg and Nickel)

 

[Admiral]

if zinc is given then you can give manganese if you just give manganese it will kill 3 beta hsd. ARL even gives copper to slow oxidizers but in a certain manner. IMO this slows down their programs a lot. TE never give copper to slow oxidizers. ARL is taking a safer route.

There are tons of different slow oxidizers with low ratio with high ratio. They all need different things. I usually rec manganese and zinc for slow oxidizer. And copper and magnesium for the fast oxidizer. This is not generalization. In general, slow oxidizers need to chelate copper, fast oxidizers need copper.

Slow oxidizers are deficient in bioavailable copper, their ceruloplasmin is low. If you feed them copper, ceruloplasmin will go even LOWER. Low ceruloplasmin shows the body does not need copper at this time. Ceruloplasmin goes up with the thyroid hormone, since copper is used to slow down the thyroid .

this is why in slow oxidation ceruloplasmin will be low, and body will not need much copper or iron, and these metals will build up in the liver, if person overeats.

What do you think is better, Gbol? ARL advising a bit of copper to slow oxidizers or TEI who don't?
I for one am low in copper on high test and am wondering this for quite some time now.

 

[sanka]

I bought sym pack that is for fast oxidizers, mi god, im so retard

 

[Admiral]

Anyone willing to calculate my numbers? I have a hard time trying..

Serum copper is 13.3 umol (8.8-17.4). Serum zinc is 12.9 (9.2-18.4)
Ceruloplasmin is 0.24 (0.20-0.60).

 

[Yura]

@Admiral copper is umol/l but what is zinc and ceruloplasmin..

 

[HerrFisch]

@Admiral

Cu 84,7 ug/dl
Zn 84,31 ug/dl
Cerulo 24 g/L

ratio cu/zn = 1.00

bound: 72
unbound 12,7
NCC: 14%

 

[Admiral]

Zinc is umol, too. For ceruloplasmin they didn't give me anything else. Just these numbers.

 

[Admiral]

@Admiral

Cu 84,7 ug/dl
Zn 84,31 ug/dl

ratio cu/zn = 1.00

bound: 72
unbound 12,7
NCC: 14%

Thanks Fisch!

Is this okay or am I dying? haha..

 

[HerrFisch]

Is this okay or am I dying? haha..

Dont know what to think of this "formula".
But Reference range is 5-20%.

 

[Admiral]

Dont know what to think of this "formula".
But Reference range is 5-20%.

Right, thanks. I just have this worry in my mind that most of my problems are copper related. This formula, as credible as it may be, does not show that, fortunately.

 

[Yura]

@gbolduev What is interesting that I wasn't sick with cold or flu like 6 years maybe. It is sign that my immune system is so weak that it can't no longer fight the pathogens? A lot of people with chronic fatigue experience this..

 

[vicecaz]

I bought sym pack that is for fast oxidizers, mi god, im so retard

Contact them and said you made a mistake with the purchase, it takes some time before it gets shipped to your place and they can cancel it before

Send them an email

 

[sanka]

The problem is that eight now im in argentina and i hve been taking it for like two weeks

 

[supernature]

Ceruloplasmin is 0,294 g/l = 29400 ug/dl
Copper 97 (i guess ug/dl., was by phone and they did not tell me which unit lol.)
Zinc 86 ug/dl (I calculated with a different one at first)

So Cu/Zn 1,12 (0.7-1.0)
Bound 88,2
Unbound 8,8
% of non ceruloplasmin bound copper (the NCC)
8,8/97= 9% ?

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[HerrFisch]

Maybe your serum copper and ceruloplasmin were taken both at same day/visit ?

What would be different if so ?

 

[supernature]

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