Slayo's PFS Log- is recovery possible for me ?

bruschi11

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I think there are people like @Slayo that just have a wall keeping them from improving. It’s a wall but walls can be taken down.

Thing is we don’t know exactly what that wall is. I think it’s obvious that Wall is not just PFS itself. For me its been a pathogen in my way along with subpar detoxification/ immune system holding me back.

There’s got to be something there. TEI is awesome and I recommend it to every single person I talk to who wants to get healthier. But some people like myself or slayo might need other ways of breaking down that “wall” in front of them.

Maybe once he figures it out like myself as to what is holding him back, what fixes it, what puts him in a bit of a better spot, will TEI begin to work as it should.
 

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I think there are people like @Slayo that just have a wall keeping them from improving. It’s a wall but walls can be taken down.

Thing is we don’t know exactly what that wall is. I think it’s obvious that Wall is not just PFS itself. For me its been a pathogen in my way along with subpar detoxification/ immune system holding me back.

There’s got to be something there. TEI is awesome and I recommend it to every single person I talk to who wants to get healthier. But some people like myself or slayo might need other ways of breaking down that “wall” in front of them.

Maybe once he figures it out like myself as to what is holding him back, what fixes it, what puts him in a bit of a better spot, will TEI begin to work as it should.

I will discover it in 2050
 

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How much taurine and sodium thiosulfate would you apply ? @Helen @Boris
I would premix the two in 100 ml of water and then apply with a syringe (because I have long hairs), massagge a bit and after ten minutes I will dry with the phon.

Today I applied 3 grams of taurine, and it dropped my blood pressure, crazy that I don't feel anything from 10 grams of taurine orally (and I mean zero), but topically on the head I feel a lot just from 3 grams.
My gut must be super fucked

Yes, I used topical taurine for hair a long time ago and I did feel it orally. It was only about 500mg. How are you dissolving and applying 3 grams at a time? Amino acid powders are really hard to dissolve, what is your vehicle? Just water? Is all the taurine actually getting dissolved and not just sitting at the bottom?
 

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Yes, I used topical taurine for hair a long time ago and I did feel it orally. It was only about 500mg. How are you dissolving and applying 3 grams at a time? Amino acid powders are really hard to dissolve, what is your vehicle? Just water? Is all the taurine actually getting dissolved and not just sitting at the bottom?

I wet my hairs then I applied 2,5 grams of taurine and massaged, but because I have long hairs I noticed that lots of taurine was ending in the hairs, so I put 500 mg in 100ml of water and used a syringe to apply, 500 mg dissolved well.

I decided to use it after hearing @freeflow reporting very loose scalp just after one application, he just wet hairs and applied 500mg rubbing it, but he has almost shaved hairs so very easy to apply.

Any idea about sodium thiosilfate dosage ? It should be the big gun in terms of calcifications, infact I would avoid overuse as it can deplete a lot
 

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Ciao Slayo,

I read through your log. It's a tough problem. I think you would agree that your digestion is your main problem.

I would laser-focus on that. I don't want to be disrespectful but buying supplements left and right won't get you anywhere if digestion doesn't work.
In crises some people get hysterical (constantly changing approach), some get obsessive (never change approach).

For you I would suggest getting little more in the direction of the obsessive side and focus on HCL.
Start with the lowest amount possible like 1mg diluted in water (through a straw).
If that doesn't give you too much pain. Try 5mg, ... etc.
If you start to get pain try with warm water, cold water, hot water, icy water... etc.
With meal, after meal, etc.
Try every possible permutation in this world to get HCL to work!
Go from low amount to higher not vice versa, because pain might demotivate you otherwise.

I've had problems with stomach pain few years ago and I've used gelatin powder with warm/hot water. It made the pain go away temporarily.
Maybe try this with HCL, before HCL, etc...

Maybe you end up with 1g of gelatin and 5mg HCL for one month and this gets you out of this vicious circle - who knows!

You got the spirit!

Good luck!
 
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Just woke up and I have drunken 1 glass of urine, you understand you are very desperate when you do somenthing like that so easily, like I woke up, pissed in a glass and drunk, like the most normal thing in the world lol.

Anyway it didn't taste bad, will drink 2-3 glasses a day, this amounts to around 600ml of urine, does that sounds enough ?
 

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Why there is written to avoid any contact with the skin ? Is this somenthing they write on any chemical product even if it can be used on the skin ?

@Boris
 

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Slayo

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Ciao Slayo,

I read through your log. It's a tough problem. I think you would agree that your digestion is your main problem.

I would laser-focus on that. I don't want to be disrespectful but buying supplements left and right won't get you anywhere if digestion doesn't work.
In crises some people get hysterical (constantly changing approach), some get obsessive (never change approach).

For you I would suggest getting little more in the direction of the obsessive side and focus on HCL.
Start with the lowest amount possible like 1mg diluted in water (through a straw).
If that doesn't give you too much pain. Try 5mg, ... etc.
If you start to get pain try with warm water, cold water, hot water, icy water... etc.
With meal, after meal, etc.
Try every possible permutation in this world to get HCL to work!
Go from low amount to higher not vice versa, because pain might demotivate you otherwise.

I've had problems with stomach pain few years ago and I've used gelatin powder with warm/hot water. It made the pain go away temporarily.
Maybe try this with HCL, before HCL, etc...

Maybe you end up with 1g of gelatin and 5mg HCL for one month and this gets you out of this vicious circle - who knows!

You got the spirit!

Good luck!

With lots of foods I have been able to take hcl, it didn't change anything, have taken it for 3 months
 

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Wetting the hairs and then applying taurine to the scalp is very time consuming, I will just use it when I do the shower mixing it with the shampoo and massagging for 5 minutes and then rinse, it should be more than enough to have it absorbed, itI should absorb immediately.

I'm still waiting for someone recommending me about how much sodium thiosulfate to use
 

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i'm stoping taurine, even half gram topically gives me sides effects (low sodium mostly).

this is crazy, half gram of taurine on the scalp is better absorbed than 30 grams of it orally (i tried it at 30 grams orally more than a year ago), i had all the effects of taurine like lower sodium, better sleep (increased gaba), more energy and less brain fog in the morning due to the gaba effect.
WHat this stupid drug did to our gut that i can't absorb anything anymore ? @Helen for all these years i thought that supplements just don't work on me and just now i discover that if i apply on the scalp they get absorbed so it was just an absorbtion problems, i wasted money for all these years without any result and now i understand why, i'm shocked
 

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here my tei retest results.

first test second tei test
ca 48 55
mg 4,4 5,8
na 7 3
k 11 3
cu 0,8 1
zn 16 20
p 17 20
fe 0,7 0,8
mn 0,07 0,06
cr 0,03 0,03
se 0,08 0,12
mo 0,004 0,006
s 4390 5589

na/k 0,63 1


comparing the first test i did at ARl with the last tei test i received i honestly don't see much difference, you should find all my tests here on my log
 

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here my tei retest results.

first test second tei test
ca 48 55
mg 4,4 5,8
na 7 3
k 11 3
cu 0,8 1
zn 16 20
p 17 20
fe 0,7 0,8
mn 0,07 0,06
cr 0,03 0,03
se 0,08 0,12
mo 0,004 0,006
s 4390 5589

na/k 0,63 1


comparing the first test i did at ARl with the last tei test i received i honestly don't see much difference, you should find all my tests here on my log
Looks like a pfs hairtest low sodium to potassium ratio and high zinc to copper ratio.

Your bismuth and zirconium levels are high. I don't know if they are at toxic levels but they stand out. Do the a lot of pepto bismal?

Here is a PDF file on bismuth abd zirconium

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...Vaw1anZ8rhNBaLwRBRKl-g-Z_&cshid=1545177825051
 

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THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT POST

i received two quotations for my water fast both for 3 weeks of fast:

1)a clinic that will do during the water fast these theraphies:
-steam sauna every day
-clay patches on detox organs every day
-oxygen intramuscolar injection 3xweek
-2-3 autohemotheraphy a week (they take some blood, mix it with oxygen, then inject intramuscular, it is used to fight infections)
-1xweek of IV of quinton isotonic (62 minerals, a kind of sea water) and some other stuffs
-if i need some rosmerine capsules to keep blood pressure in check and if necessary some omeophatics

2)just water fast and accupuncture, the doctor said that using accupuncture while fasting makes it much more effective, he said to have the same results from 15 days of fasting plus accupuncture and 30 days of fasting alone


i don't know which one to choose, this fast will decide about my life, the first option looks interesting because of the large amount of theraphies, it seems to support detox, to oxygenate the body, to help with infections and remineralise the body, but some people says to not do any theraphy and to just drink water.
The second one is good too because it is more rebalancing and the doctor said that it doubles at least the efficacy of the fast.
I need suggestions, bro you are the most knowleadgeable here so please give your opinion @Helen

also i would like your opinion and of course the opinion of anyone else that wants to speak @bruschi11 @MNK99 @Boris @freeflow @Goose12

i can afford both so don't take in account the price difference

also the doctor of the fasting clinic watched my blood under the microscope, my situation didn't seem that bad, red blood cells weren't sticky like in most chronic disseased people, he found some metals, some bacteria, thyroid stress, precipitate proteins (catabolism), a bit underactive hyphophysis, he also said he could see my very bad deidrathathion too. Based on this i think my issue is just receptors, this is why he couldn't find anything seriously wrong, he didn't find any systemic candida, parassites, etc
 

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--Bro been arguing recently. WILL read carefully and edit this later tmro or tonite. --gonna see medical/pharma relatives very soon............. so gonna try and do something to relax and be less tense. -- was so happy... but gonna be stressful. I disliked seeing certain relatives in best of times. --- On own, fine but even then kind of dislike it.

-Sauna AND Water Fast sounds pretty intense plus the other ones.
-Re: option 2: I did do some acupuncture, but was talked into it. This was when I was juice feasting just 11-13 days at a time. I dreaded going there... felt it was all a waste of time.... fasted on my own, cancelled my acupuncture appointments. I'm sure it helps some people. It is an Ancient Chinese art (also used in many countries).
--IF you can really lie still, and not think so much... it's not so bad. Like now I could do it.... Or a massage. But very hyper -- not great. VERY DEPRESSED --> hard to stick to
--V. Depressed (past tense).

-It is AR overexpression according to the studies, IIRC. --I think the doctor gave some promising news. Not that bad.
-Whatever you do next in terms of this choice, sounds potentially life changing in a very good way.

-So the clinics make sure you don't go underweight, get too dehydrated?
--I will try reading up each therapy.... Seems complicated. You mentioned like 3-4 of them. But I cannot rem all this stuff............................ ill get back
 
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--I'd choose 2. BUT* I really don't know anything about clay therapy and the others only barely know. tbh.
--Also... I am biased against acupuncture because personally I tried it when I was like 0%, and a bit better, didn't really continue. A better place, it'd be easier to do for sure.
-On the other hand... Option 2 sounds easier isn't it?
--But nothing worth fighting for ever comes easy.... so Option 1.
-make sure none of these do the exact opposite of concurrent treatments.

-Actually maybe OPTION 2 because 30 days water fasting with Acupuncture sounds great (especially the water fast aspect).
Someone with more knowledge can chime in. I will research it tho.... this is important, you are correct.

-IF it was me, I'd choose 2, because neither are completely new and fasting was excellent. IF I actually knew what the question marks were, I'd give a better answer:
---70% option 2, 30% option 1.

-steam sauna every day
-clay patches on detox organs every day ----?
-oxygen intramuscolar injection 3xweek --- ok.
-2-3 autohemotheraphy a week (they take some blood, mix it with oxygen, then inject intramuscular, it is used to fight infections) ---sounds potentially useful.
-1xweek of IV of quinton isotonic (62 minerals, a kind of sea water) and some other stuffs ---?
-if i need some rosmerine capsules to keep blood pressure in check and if necessary some omeophatics ---? Not sure if that's useful.... COULD be/ NO IDEA.

-MAYBE YOU NEED 1 though. Maybe that helps more for your case? I don't know what to say man...................
 
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Aflac94

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THIS IS A VERY IMPORTANT POST

i received two quotations for my water fast both for 3 weeks of fast:

1)a clinic that will do during the water fast these theraphies:
-steam sauna every day
-clay patches on detox organs every day
-oxygen intramuscolar injection 3xweek
-2-3 autohemotheraphy a week (they take some blood, mix it with oxygen, then inject intramuscular, it is used to fight infections)
-1xweek of IV of quinton isotonic (62 minerals, a kind of sea water) and some other stuffs
-if i need some rosmerine capsules to keep blood pressure in check and if necessary some omeophatics

2)just water fast and accupuncture, the doctor said that using accupuncture while fasting makes it much more effective, he said to have the same results from 15 days of fasting plus accupuncture and 30 days of fasting alone


i don't know which one to choose, this fast will decide about my life, the first option looks interesting because of the large amount of theraphies, it seems to support detox, to oxygenate the body, to help with infections and remineralise the body, but some people says to not do any theraphy and to just drink water.
The second one is good too because it is more rebalancing and the doctor said that it doubles at least the efficacy of the fast.
I need suggestions, bro you are the most knowleadgeable here so please give your opinion @Helen

also i would like your opinion and of course the opinion of anyone else that wants to speak @bruschi11 @MNK99 @Boris @freeflow @Goose12

i can afford both so don't take in account the price difference

also the doctor of the fasting clinic watched my blood under the microscope, my situation didn't seem that bad, red blood cells weren't sticky like in most chronic disseased people, he found some metals, some bacteria, thyroid stress, precipitate proteins (catabolism), a bit underactive hyphophysis, he also said he could see my very bad deidrathathion too. Based on this i think my issue is just receptors, this is why he couldn't find anything seriously wrong, he didn't find any systemic candida, parassites, etc

Looks interesting where is number 1 how much does it cost. Fasting could be free but does seem safer st a facility and nice to have those other therapies
 

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I like accupuncture and did while fasting and it’s definitley balancing, but man all that stuff in the first therapy is hard to pass up.
 

Slayo

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Looks interesting where is number 1 how much does it cost. Fasting could be free but does seem safer st a facility and nice to have those other therapies

3k, and it is discounted, full price would be 4,5k but my parents have a special fund for medical expenditures so from the 3k they will receive 2k as refund so they end up paying just 1k
 

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--I'd choose 2. BUT* I really don't know anything about clay therapy and the others only barely know. tbh.
--Also... I am biased against acupuncture because personally I tried it when I was like 0%, and a bit better, didn't really continue. A better place, it'd be easier to do for sure.
-On the other hand... Option 2 sounds easier isn't it?
--But nothing worth fighting for ever comes easy.... so Option 1.
-make sure none of these do the exact opposite of concurrent treatments.

-Actually maybe OPTION 2 because 30 days water fasting with Acupuncture sounds great (especially the water fast aspect).
Someone with more knowledge can chime in. I will research it tho.... this is important, you are correct.

-IF it was me, I'd choose 2, because neither are completely new and fasting was excellent. IF I actually knew what the question marks were, I'd give a better answer:
---70% option 2, 30% option 1.

-steam sauna every day
-clay patches on detox organs every day ----?
-oxygen intramuscolar injection 3xweek --- ok.
-2-3 autohemotheraphy a week (they take some blood, mix it with oxygen, then inject intramuscular, it is used to fight infections) ---sounds potentially useful.
-1xweek of IV of quinton isotonic (62 minerals, a kind of sea water) and some other stuffs ---?
-if i need some rosmerine capsules to keep blood pressure in check and if necessary some omeophatics ---? Not sure if that's useful.... COULD be/ NO IDEA.

-MAYBE YOU NEED 1 though. Maybe that helps more for your case? I don't know what to say man...................

Yes it's hard to decide, accupuncure as you say looks very interesting, but the first clinic seem to help a lot with detox, and they have the IV of sea water once a week that is close to what Helen did (swimming in the ocean).

The clay patches basically absorbs toxins from where they are applied, so on the liver they absorb toxins from there
 

Slayo

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I like accupuncture and did while fasting and it’s definitley balancing, but man all that stuff in the first therapy is hard to pass up.

So you are for the second option ? The theraphies won't you herx, they will help with herxing (sweating, clay patches that absorb toxins, oxygen, iv of minerals)


The first water fast I did was 10 days at that clinic, I just did steam sauna, clay patches, oxygen injection daily, I never felt bad (but I never herx, so maybe it is just me or maybe the theraphies that time helped avoiding herx)