SLOW OXIDIZERS with high DHT.( HIGH DOSE NIACIN TRIAL)

[barbaar]

Also oh my lawd my entire body is on fire. Niacin flush is intense haha

 

[MNK99]

Fire in a good way?

 

[barbaar]

Fire in a good way?

 

[Regirice]

This experiment is not recommended for those on tei/arl I'm assuming, something that may interfere?

 

[barbaar]

This experiment is not recommended for those on tei/arl I'm assuming, something that may interfere?

The general advice is to never mix anything with ARL or TEI.

 

[Helen]

The general advice is to never mix anything with ARL or TEI.

hahaha, bud, how much did you take?

 

[barbaar]

hahaha, bud, how much did you take?

I only took like 750mg to start with. Everything feels tingly and warm, 3g should be fun ))

 

[Helen]

I only took like 750mg to start with. Everything feels tingly and warm, 3g should be fun ))

yeah, I remember I took 7grams of it in my orange juice daily for a month))

that was real fun )))

I was as red as a lobster))

 

[barbaar]

yeah, I remember I took 7grams of it in my orange juice daily for a month))

that was real fun )))

I was as red as a lobster))

Haha damn 7g is a lot. I'll try 3 tomorrow if everything goes ok.

 

[Admiral]

I already got the Niacin flush using 300mg. But I'm a special case..

 

[SwaZ]

I think i might have found a supplier here.

For how long should one use niacin?

 

[RebelWithACause]

Any PFS guys want to try this? We got Ocguy to take Finasteride. Now we need PFS guy taking this. Then we have a lot of different protocols running.

EDIT: has to be slow oxidizer - high DHT guy I guess

 

[Admiral]

I would, but I am a fast one with low DHT.

 

[vicecaz]

A bit pessimistic regarding Niacin flush alone but imo Niacin coupled with another demethylating agent or HDAC ( Sodium butyrate, Sulforaphane, TA,.. ) would make sense and add to the potency of what we're trying to achieve . Sometimes I feel our theories are correct but we're not seeing results because of too short cycles or giving up after 1 cycle with no results, too little/strong dosage, etc.

Also, wouldn't taking DHT in form of R andro makes a good addition to this? Still trying to figure if it should be taken, before, while on protocol, or right after but that'd definitely be useful if used correctly (time, dosage). When to take it would depend on the different cases

Do it all while performing a 10 days or so water fast to increase sensitivity, and to lower 6gpd, and we have a potentially promising way to address the issue looking at the methylation angle if the initial theory is correct

That's a shame Nox inhibitor have very little history of use in Human because it would fit here too, especially since I'm not convinced of the potency of fasting to lower g6pd

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So let's say we take R andro, which would increase DHT, kill the number of AR/downregulate AR and at the same time we demethylate with 2 different mechanisms with one focused on the AR (HDAC) + Niacin or something else
And hope that during the snapback our body readjust

I'll try this during my next Andro cycle which is about a month away, probably while fasting when I start

 

[Helen]

A bit pessimistic regarding Niacin flush alone but imo Niacin coupled with another demethylating agent or HDAC ( Sodium butyrate, Sulforaphane, TA,.. ) would make sense and add to the potency of what we're trying to achieve . Sometimes I feel our theories are correct but we're not seeing results because of too short cycles or giving up after 1 cycle with no results, too little/strong dosage, etc.

Also, wouldn't taking DHT in form of R andro makes a good addition to this? Still trying to figure if it should be taken, before, while on protocol, or right after but that'd definitely be useful if used correctly (time, dosage). When to take it would depend on the different cases

Do it all while performing a 10 days or so water fast to increase sensitivity, and to lower 6gpd, and we have a potentially promising way to address the issue looking at the methylation angle if the initial theory is correct

That's a shame Nox inhibitor have very little history of use in Human because it would fit here too, especially since I'm not convinced of the potency of fasting to lower g6pd

--
So let's say we take R andro, which would increase DHT, kill the number of AR/downregulate AR and at the same time we demethylate with 2 different mechanisms with one focused on the AR (HDAC) + Niacin or something else
And hope that during the snapback our body readjust

I'll try this during my next Andro cycle which is about a month away, probably while fasting when I start

yes that would be best I guess

 

[barbaar]

Flushing went away after like 30-45 mins, feeling kinda slow and tired now, in a good way. Like I could fall asleep easily. I hope that's the case!

I could add sulforaphane and r andro, have both on hand.

 

[Helen]

Flushing went away after like 30-45 mins, feeling kinda slow and tired now, in a good way. Like I could fall asleep easily. I hope that's the case!

I could add sulforaphane and r andro, have both on hand.

you still have problems with sleep?

 

[barbaar]

you still have problems with sleep?

Sometimes, but it has improved a lot. I can usually get 7-8 hours straight so I really can't complain. It's mostly falling asleep that takes longer than I'd like (1-2 hours on average I'd say)

 

[Trump_1776]

Lets get it

 

[jacknap]

normal Niacin the flush kind. nicotnic acid. Hoffer gave up to 3 grams a day.

my friends take 7grams a day. some of them,


the flush is crazy on it))

I've read over 6 grams can be liver toxic