Snowball’s log - PFS (Fin+Saw Palmetto)

snowball

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My blood work results for T and E came in. Test was done before I started grape seed and DIM.

Free T: 395 range: 196-636
Estradiol: 84 range: <162

These are quite different from DUTCH test which shows very low T and very high E values. I would trust DUTCH test more.
 

snowball

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Still with grape seed and DIM. I’m experiencing lot of stiffness and muscular pain. I thought this combo will increase T by suppressing estrogen however looks like something not going as planned. (May be too much suppression)

Options to try:
- rotate with royal jelly, Ashwagandha, Tribulus, cistanche etc + try Mg
- restart TEI once I have minplex supp available
- Try R-Andro
 

Ingeno

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Still with grape seed and DIM. I’m experiencing lot of stiffness and muscular pain. I thought this combo will increase T by suppressing estrogen however looks like something not going as planned. (May be too much suppression)

Options to try:
- rotate with royal jelly, Ashwagandha, Tribulus, cistanche etc + try Mg
- restart TEI once I have minplex supp available
- Try R-Andro
Always hated the so called anti estrogen supps like DIM and grape seed. Always stiff body and cracking joints and slight depression with emotional numbness. I think our estrogen receptors are not sensitive enough. I am not convinced those anti estrogen supps are the way to go.
 
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snowball

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Always hated the so called anti estrogen supps like DIM and grape seed. Always stiff body and cracking joints and slight depression with emotional numbness. I think our estrogen receptors are not sensitive enough. I am not convinced those anti estrogen supps are the way to go.
Had high estrogen and low T and DHT so thought to go this way. Do you think rotating T boosters n fasting might help?
 

snowball

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Nice! Have you also considered a portable near infrared sauna? Larry Wilson has a good article on the benefits on this as opposed to infrared.

Sauna Therapy
I’m getting two light sources:
Red light as well as near infra red device

Will read the article you pointed out
 

snowball

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Red light and near IR therapy ongoing. What I have noticed:
- increase in energy
- Higher likelihood of morning wood
- Better mood
- Weird taste in mouth at times after therapy

No noticeable changes to hair or skin so far.
 

snowball

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After thinking for a while among following options..
- R-andro
- TEI continuation
- Tribulus
- RU/Ella
..decided to test our Mediherb Tribulus. This is the first time I’m trying it out. Took first dose yesterday evening. After an hour, experienced a zap (like an electric shock) in my head and feeling more calm. Is there anything I should to take along with Tribulus? My plan is to take Tribulus for 1-2 days and then start r-andro cycle...
@Helen What do you think about my plan?
 
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freeflow

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Red light and near IR therapy ongoing. What I have noticed:
- increase in energy
- Higher likelihood of morning wood
- Better mood
- Weird taste in mouth at times after therapy

No noticeable changes to hair or skin so far.
How many minutes of the light?
I did 2 occasions with 6-9 mins and got crazy weakness and thyroid pain.

Btw i also felt the electric shock from mediherb tribulus, that moment i thought it will cure me
 

Goose12

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How many minutes of the light?
I did 2 occasions with 6-9 mins and got crazy weakness and thyroid pain.

Btw i also felt the electric shock from mediherb tribulus, that moment i thought it will cure me
Any increase in baseline from tribulus? I have noticed good things from high dose trib before jumping on tei. I had two occasions where I would take extremely high dose trib, feel great, and then drop back down to a slightly higher baseline. I don't think the quality of my tribulus was that great.
 

Goose12

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After thinking for a while among following options..
- R-andro
- TEI continuation
- Tribulus
- RU/Ella
..decided to test our Mediherb Tribulus. This is the first time I’m trying it out. Took first dose yesterday evening. After an hour, experienced a zap (like an electric shock) in my head and feeling more calm. Is there anything I should to take along with Tribulus? My plan is to take Tribulus for 1-2 days and then start r-andro cycle...
You should read Helens new post and maybe ask him what he thinks. You could try two days of trib and ru and see what happens.
 

snowball

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Any increase in baseline from tribulus? I have noticed good things from high dose trib before jumping on tei. I had two occasions where I would take extremely high dose trib, feel great, and then drop back down to a slightly higher baseline. I don't think the quality of my tribulus was that great.
Too early to say however compared with the one I tried before (Australian brand), this one is quite strong.
 

snowball

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How many minutes of the light?
I did 2 occasions with 6-9 mins and got crazy weakness and thyroid pain.

Btw i also felt the electric shock from mediherb tribulus, that moment i thought it will cure me
3-4 minutes Red light and 2 min IR.

How was your experience with Mediherb trib? Any improvements?