Snowball’s log - PFS (Fin+Saw Palmetto)

[freeflow]

After waterfasting and taking tribulus close to the fast it gives me very alpha feeling, deep voice, confidence, muscles.

Further from fasting I feel nothing or a little worse on tribulus and in 1-2 days I get a snap back, motivation shoots up, feeling mentally great but it fades away in some days, my body regulates back to the normal pfs state.

 

[snowball]

After waterfasting and taking tribulus close to the fast it gives me very alpha feeling, deep voice, confidence, muscles.

Further from fasting I feel nothing or a little worse on tribulus and in 1-2 days I get a snap back, motivation shoots up, feeling mentally great but it fades away in some days, my body regulates back to the normal pfs state.

I see. Is there anything that has helped you so far with improving baseline permanently?

 

[Goose12]

2 days trib and then RU or R-andro?

I am not quite sure but I think you would want to do ru with tribulus for two or three days and continue tribulus for at least two days after ru. I would have to look into the mechanism Helen is discussing to fully understand what might work in theory.

 

[freeflow]

I see. Is there anything that has helped you so far with improving baseline permanently?

Im on TEI, baseline is better energy wise. No junk cravings, just when i finish a round and stop the supps, then junk cravings go huge. Its the 3rd round.

 

[Goose12]

https://hackstasis.com/threads/upregulated-gr-cortisol-receptor-theory.1648/

Helen mentions cycling tribulus with cyprohepdatine

 

[snowball]

Took Tribulus yesterday (day 2). Not experienced any electric stimulation this time however had headache.

@Goose12 Do you remember which post discusses details on taking RU with Tribulus (mechanism etc)? I’m also looking into cyproheptadine

 

[Goose12]

Took Tribulus yesterday (day 2). Not experienced any electric stimulation this time however had headache.

@Goose12 Do you remember which post discusses details on taking RU with Tribulus (mechanism etc)? I’m also looking into cyproheptadine

I don't remember which or if there was a post about taking ru with tribulus.

If I was you I might take tribulus for one more day, high dose and then wait for four days and see what happens. I have had small improvements this way on two occasions. Wait and see how @jinstewart ru trial goes, he is on day 2. Also you can get ready to trial tribulus with something Helen recommends.

Here is someone who was cured with tribulus I believe tribulus has cured me!

 

[snowball]

I don't remember which or if there was a post about taking ru with tribulus.

If I was you I might take tribulus for one more day, high dose and then wait for four days and see what happens. I have had small improvements this way on two occasions. Wait and see how @jinstewart ru trial goes, he is on day 2. Also you can get ready to trial tribulus with something Helen recommends.

Here is someone who was cured with tribulus I believe tribulus has cured me!

I’m currently taking one pill per day however the guy who got cured took multiple (6-7) pill a day. Shall I increase my intake and make it 2 a day for 1-2 days and then stop?

 

[Goose12]

I’m currently taking one pill per day however the guy who got cured took multiple (6-7) pill a day. Shall I increase my intake and make it 2 a day for 1-2 days and then stop?

I would try four a day for two more days, but when I had improvements from tribulus I was around 8 per day. But like I said I believe my tribulus was low quality. My experience was similar to his, I felt really good but then dropped back down to a slightly higher baseline.

I tried this on four or five occasions and it worked twice, and my improvements we're minor but I noticeable. Now I wish I would have tried mediherb tribulus

 

[snowball]

I would try four a day for two more days, but when I had improvements from tribulus I was around 8 per day. But like I said I believe my tribulus was low quality. My experience was similar to his, I felt really good but then dropped back down to a slightly higher baseline.

I tried this on four or five occasions and it worked twice, and my improvements we're minor but I noticeable. Now I wish I would have tried mediherb tribulus

That makes sense! I will up my dosage tomorrow and will slowly wean off. Let’s see how this goes

 

[snowball]

Took 2 Tribulus capsules so far today. My body temp has increased from ~96+-0.8 to 98 degrees and can feel the heat. On the flip side, feeling a bit anxious (not too much though)

 

[snowball]

Is there any benefit of taking Phosphadylserine with Tribulus? PS might help with DHT as well?
@Goose12 @Helen

 

[snowball]

Took 3 Tribulus so far today. Will have one more in sometime.

 

[Goose12]

Is there any benefit of taking Phosphadylserine with Tribulus? PS might help with DHT as well?
@Goose12 @Helen

I never noticed much of anything from Phosphadylserine but it couldnt hurt either, but it also doesn't hurt to keep things simple. Sometimes you can do to much.

 

[snowball]

This has been my Tribulus dosage :
From Friday (by day): 1,1,1,2,3,4,1,1

Not had it today yet.

Update after my morning post:
Not a steep decline with energy levels yet since I have not taken Tribulus today. Is there a SnapBack experienced by anyone who tried Mediherb?

 

[snowball]

Today (i.e., day 2 after finishing first trib cycle)
Scoring approach - High score means more favourable

Energy - 6 Before, 8 on Trib, 7 now
Digestion/bloating - 5 Before, 8 on Trib, 6 now
Concentration - 6 before, 7 on Trib, 7 now
Muscular pain(esp. neck) - 6 before, 7 on Trib, 5 now
Facial bloating - 7 before, 8 on Trib, 8 now
Penile shrinkage - 4 before, 6 on Trib, 6 now
Anxiety - Minor improvements (+0.5)
Balls shrinkage - 3 before and after (no improvements)

For last 3-4 days, noticing higher urine frequency and urgency.

 

[Goose12]

Today (i.e., day 2 after finishing first trib cycle)
Scoring approach - High score means more favourable

Energy - 6 Before, 8 on Trib, 7 now
Digestion/bloating - 5 Before, 8 on Trib, 6 now
Concentration - 6 before, 7 on Trib, 7 now
Muscular pain(esp. neck) - 6 before, 7 on Trib, 5 now
Facial bloating - 7 before, 8 on Trib, 8 now
Penile shrinkage - 4 before, 6 on Trib, 6 now
Anxiety - Minor improvements (+0.5)
Balls shrinkage - 3 before and after (no improvements)

For last 3-4 days, noticing higher urine frequency and urgency.

Those are some decent improvements. Hopefully they hold. What's your plans going forward?

 

[snowball]

Those are some decent improvements. Hopefully they hold. What's your plans going forward?

I would like to try out at least one more cycle for 5 days with higher dosage - something like 2,4,7,4,1. After that either R-andro (one I have) or Andro gel. Depending on outcome, will go to TEI for more balanced approach. The reason why I temporarily moved away from it was to improve baseline via other options.

Also..I’m trying to figure out what was the mechanism through which Ella was able to get me back to pre-PFS..something I’m currently missing even with high potency Tribulus. Having said that, agree re: improvements provided they stick.

 

[snowball]

Any idea why my urine frequency and urgency increased after Mediherb Tribulus. Something to do with losing potassium?

@freeflow @Goose12 @Boris @Helen

 

[Goose12]

I would like to try out at least one more cycle for 5 days with higher dosage - something like 2,4,7,4,1. After that either R-andro (one I have) or Andro gel. Depending on outcome, will go to TEI for more balanced approach. The reason why I temporarily moved away from it was to improve baseline via other options.

Also..I’m trying to figure out what was the mechanism through which Ella was able to get me back to pre-PFS..something I’m currently missing even with high potency Tribulus. Having said that, agree re: improvements provided they stick.

I can't remember, have you tried RU. It did a lot for me anxiety wise but not everyone was able to replicate the results I had. I think the cortisol blocking helped me a lot.

I don't have any idea about the urine frequency. I just assumed it was because fin or saw basically made us diabetics. I have improved a lot in this area because of tei