yes I know but proviron is at least in my opionion still somewhat harsh on the liver although tudca keeps it under control i still feel safer on this stuff as it dens't feel toxic. as for the RPF read the last reactions. I think they first got fake and than changed their strategy or whatever but that muscle hardness especially can't be replicated by anything else then androgens i think. i first wanted to order 11-keto dht but the price wasn't right for me at least for the small quantity dht.If you have something that is working for you nicely . Why switch around to these weird sourced gels which you dont even know what it is. AAS are dangerous as they are. but putting some shit in , which you dont even know what it is. could be wreckless.
I mean you had good results with provi. I would never ever switch.
On RPF people were discussing 11 keto DHT and this cream , most said this cream did nothing in comparison to 11 keto
No...there's a certain threshold where DHT raises GABA more than Adrenaline. You need TONS of DHT to make yourself GABA-Dominant.the bad psychological effects are probably from being underfed because it increases food demand alot. I feel amazing when i eat 3500+ calories. also ive been eaating alot of crap on holidays like kebab, pizza, lasagna probably full of puffa and it doesn't seem to influence me in any negative way. be it mood, skin, edema…
ps: people in the UK are fatt as hell never thought it would be that bad. feel like an outcast being single digit bodfat
i don't know how much dht is in this but today at the beach I was amazed by how my body looks(other people seemed too) and that while eating nothing else than fast food lol. shit's to good to be true as for the negative side effects that was only one day. I also notice not being able to get nervous. for example why went cliff diving today and the highest one people didn't dare to jump off and got rreally nervous while i felt nothing, just jumped. shits amazingNo...there's a certain threshold where DHT raises GABA more than Adrenaline. You need TONS of DHT to make yourself GABA-Dominant.
At which point - you will probably also seek stimulants more as well.
...BUT, you will get BETTER Effects from Stimulants then; like Caffeine, Clen, Amphetamine etc
i don't know how much dht is in this but today at the beach I was amazed by how my body looks(other people seemed too) and that while eating nothing else than fast food lol. shit's to good to be true as for the negative side effects that was only one day. I also notice not being able to get nervous. for example why went cliff diving today and the highest one people didn't dare to jump off and got rreally nervous while i felt nothing, just jumped. shits amazing
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Intense but not insatiable, that's no fun lol!libido definitly up, skyhigh extualy but not insatible just intense. pretty sure it's just the cacao but who knows. face looks wider even though fat soluble vitamin deficienty with the fast food holyday diet. i'll be happy when i can drop the restaurant food because the gluten is making my face a little more puffy though. i want my skeleton holocaust face back. yesterday irritable as fuck, snapped a few times at people even but eventually went over.
Very nice! Smaller pupils is an interesting effect though. Not sure if it is DHT related or any evidence it is.just arrived back home
so have more time to sum up benefits and sides i noticed
BENEFITS:
increased libido but on and off
panaroma vision
feeling smarter sometimes like my IQ raised a few points
muscle hardness
decrease water retention
wider face
smaller pupils
very assertive
very calm
very confident
increased body hair
decrease in bodyfat (think atleast but it's still early)
increase in strenght
great digestion, digest everything exept carrageenan still seems to irritate a little
improved creativity
people showing lots of respect
SIDES:
irritability (only sometimes)
not completly hard erections
careless about what i eat (only fast food for now lol, but i get away with it so it's ok)
all androgens and AI's i've tried have this effect. exemstane, proviron, this dht, androstenone. it's lowering of stress hormones. sexual tension also dilates pupils thas why they say looking at people you love dilates pupils. but i think its just a form of tension/ intimidation. small pupils also make you look more intimidating. when i was using androstenone a very very potent pheromone other people looked at me with big pupils, in males it looked like intimidation while in females looked like dreamy eyes/atraction.Very nice! Smaller pupils is an interesting effect though. Not sure if it is DHT related or any evidence it is.
agreed on the hunter eyes I have them but it got a little worse after holidays because being deficient in fat soulable vits.(they seems less hooded and my face a little elonggated but this will go over in 2-3 days of eating liver again in my experience) panorama vision is less focus seeing structure better. you kind of see everything but you look at nothing. that's a serotonin lowering effect. serotonin causes hyper focus.Can be dreamy in guys too (for girls).
TOO big eyes all the time, end up looking fucking crazy, like either you're in another dimension, or you're going to kill someone. THIS can also be good but not when unaware. Actually not big for guys, I think the right canthal tilt... slayer eyes. MY EYES were amazing before fin, now good but worse vision, AND: I hope to fix that and any facial fat loss (not good facial fat loss from bf reduction but 5ar or something else, wasting). It will be fixed, and I will have my vengeance.
Stud, when you say "panorama" vision, do you mean like increased perception like in a widescreen? Do you mean better peripheral vision?
Better color vision? Sounds great. Increased iq, amazing.
My prescription didn't change for like 14 yrs, only needed (or should) wear glasses while driving, in class, or movies, and other bs. Work too just in case.
But my right eye was near perfect. FIN fucking made both eyes change even further apart and lagged vision for months. FASTING fixed vast majority of that.
STILL makes me want to harm someone.
liver is fuckin great man, squares your face out like nothing else does. in my opinion its al about vitamin A and E not K2 like other people Always recommend. K2 only makes my face wider, no facelift. young idon't know but i sure know i won't pass on these benefits i'm getting so i donno i don't care really, as careless as ever.YES. THAT's what I was trying to say but I was thinking of this girl and this actress (gigantic eyes), then I was thinking of what those "slayer" eyes terms are for males and why they're DIFFERENT than attractive female eye areas. "Hunter eyes" too. I rem now. I got em too but dark eyes. HAD godlike hair... and was complimented on that and eyes a lot. THE sheer fact they slightly changed along with hair (AT THE SAME TIME) almost made me lose it completely. More depressed then ever. Fixed that tho with fasting (PFS). Some stuff remains, will be fixed. Negative Canthal tilt, hooded eyes, etc... vanity is bad. Leads to things like fin sometimes.
MANY TIMES when hypo and hyper... handling business, owning the room, you can tell girls and women checking you out. Dominating. Arguing and destroying someone bc you need to see their superior. Like a boss. BUT: If you cannot turn this off, you push people away. EVEN if it is by design, that's not good. Being able to take complete emotional turns (good for acting), can be entertaining, but it's stressful when it's literally all the time. Other guys tend to dislike/run... or respect.
I mean I wasn't depressed just bc of that, other things as well.. BUT that and 100 things at once, that seemingly cannot be treated was pretty bad.
When I zone out (trying to graduate --- fought like 100 arguments, interviews, fixing a major problem) I tend to only focus on that and ignore every single thing around me. And lost out on lots of girls cuz of that. BUT: I need to do that, bc it counters ALL the time that I'm distracted. It gets harder and harder at times. A necessary evil though. I either wander or zone out...... Constant lists of tasks to complete, no enjoyment, just "striking them off" mentally.
I am pretty sure I never had liver. I will try that. Organ meat. I am certain Helen mentioned that on here (H/S). Others as well. I think I get panorama vision all the time or used to when hypomanic or separately hyperactive+hyperfocused (I'm not going to try and describe how these three things are different, but I've felt all of them at different times). Seriously, less of that with peripheral vision damaged. Used to stare people down when sizing up an area just peripherally. Need better vision to do that!(fairly useless skill / strange skill). I still do that at times. Maybe evolutionary for the other times that I lose/can't see things. Probably not. Maybe adaptation.
When you're running thru a bunch of randoms that's one thing. BUT when you ignore all other noise/visuals... and people that actually like you "to get work done"/"complete an objective", that's another thing. But, wtf, need to get things done.
At "craziest", eyes change. I CAN tell pre and post bipolar diagnosis and meds in people's photos. SAME with PFS. Sounds like I'm reading tm into this, but I'm not even joking. I can tell what people are thinking often and about to say (tends to annoy others), but when hypo and you're pissed off, then arguing... can go too far. That's one thing I'm working on.
Anyways, I didn't mean to detract, man. You seem to be doing well. But aren't you a bit young for exogenous hormones? I will read your log.
I can read people, see when others are manic/hypomanic, etc. You can see it in their eyes, even in silence. Same with attraction. 1-2/1000 are hard to read though.