Tei and some consideration

[Pedro melo]

Hi guys. I just received my second hairtest. I still can see that my copper problems continue and i dont know why because i have been taking it in my supplements, tons of copper. I just spoke with a practitioner who understands the HTMA. She recommended me to dont take copper, and she told me that its weird that after all thissupplement for two months, i even have worst copper levels.
She saw my manganese and chromium levels are criticism and we chould start by there. Along with some l carnitine in breakfast and some b5. Zinc plays a roll into he process too.
She also mentioned biotine for the liver and to lower the ferriun levels on blood( she also saw blood results).
Anyway, this copper issue probably has to do with some bioavailable copper that in my case, the more I take , it doesn't make any difference since my ceruloplasmin levels are low.
I think TEI is not taking this on considerations coz they are giving me even more copper which makes me feel so bad and unlivable..
Here are the two hair analysis so you can take a look.
Password is 6388
@sanka

 

[barbaar]

Looks like mercury is coming out like crazy, maybe that is why you feel bad?

 

[Pedro melo]

Looks like mercury is coming out like crazy, maybe that is why you feel bad?

Can be... She also mentioned that ... I'm not sure how to get read of that mercury neither how I have it even higher from one test to another

 

[barbaar]

Can be... She also mentioned that ... I'm not sure how to get read of that mercury neither how I have it even higher from one test to another

If I'm not mistaken, unless you recently got exposed to a lot of mercury, it's a good thing that it is higher on your latest test. This means that your body is mobilizing it and getting rid of it. But you might feel worse while that is happening.

 

[sanka]

What she says makes more much sense than tei recs i think

 

[Pedro melo]

If I'm not mistaken, unless you recently got exposed to a lot of mercury, it's a good thing that it is higher on your latest test. This means that your body is mobilizing it and getting rid of it. But you might feel worse while that is happening.

I'm not sure how this process works. To get rid of mercury I mean... But what about the copper being lower? Strange no?

 

[Walker]

I'm not sure how this process works. To get rid of mercury I mean... But what about the copper being lower? Strange no?

Is this all scalp hair samples?

 

[Pedro melo]

Is this all scalp hair samples?

Yes bRO. Same parte of scalp ( sides and back)

 

[barbaar]

I'm not sure how this process works. To get rid of mercury I mean... But what about the copper being lower? Strange no?

Just keep following the program and it should eventually go down again when your body got rid of it all.

I don't know about copper, but unless you know better than TEI (I certainly don't) I'd just trust their program.

 

[Pedro melo]

Just keep following the program and it should eventually go down again when your body got rid of it all.

I don't know about copper, but unless you know better than TEI (I certainly don't) I'd just trust their program.

Well thanks bRO... Ill try to dig some more info about this available copper and in the meanwhile continue with the protocol

 

[RebelWithACause]

First 2 cycles I had no copper -> Felt like dog shit.

Now taking a lot of copper (+other stuff that slows down the oxidation rate) -> Feel like body is building itself back up: windows of libido, personality is higher in general (constant), muscle, less stressed out.

I do notice it slows me down a lot but I actually feel better this way. If you are a fast oxidiser I think copper can be good for you. I would not worry too much about it. Just keep your first cycles short so you can adapt to the changes fast.

I think TEI knows what they are doing but you can feel really bad from time to time. First 4 months on TEI I felt bad most of the days. But I did notice small windows where I saw an increase in cognition/less depressed/etc.

Now I feel like I am waking up and it is getting better.

BTW I think with PFS you will have heavier reactions to TEI. So for practitioner they don't understand this. They think you react the same as average Joe who does not have such a big imbalances as you would have in PFS. Listen to the guys on this forums - they all had/have bad days or even weeks. There is no way without them I think.

 

[bruschi11]

First 2 cycles I had no copper -> Felt like dog shit.

Now taking a lot of copper (+other stuff that slows down the oxidation rate) -> Feel like body is building itself back up: windows of libido, personality is higher in general (constant), muscle, less stressed out.

I do notice it slows me down a lot but I actually feel better this way. If you are a fast oxidiser I think copper can be good for you. I would not worry too much about it. Just keep your first cycles short so you can adapt to the changes fast.

I think TEI knows what they are doing but you can feel really bad from time to time. First 4 months on TEI I felt bad most of the days. But I did notice small windows where I saw an increase in cognition/less depressed/etc.

Now I feel like I am waking up and it is getting better.

BTW I think with PFS you will have heavier reactions to TEI. So for practitioner they don't understand this. They think you react the same as average Joe who does not have such a big imbalances as you would have in PFS. Listen to the guys on this forums - they all had/have bad days or even weeks. There is no way without them I think.

You’re wrong man. I found this practitioner and Her analysis on me was that of what Helen thought. TEI completely missed this and was going to force copper on me until both she and Helen told me I’m likely copper toxic.

TEI is great and all, ARL too but experts are best. Thing is we don’t know whose an expert at this point and whose not. Helen is one. I think this woman is one- she got me doing really well post antibiotics before this fast. I hope I’m right.

Pedro Melo, like myself, did horrible on TEI. His reactions in hair analysis to all that copper is an obvious reaction that something is off.

Hair, blood, urine- whatever you can get and work with an expert is best way at going at this no doubt in my mind. Not just a practitioner because this science is so new, but an expert. Goal is to be one myself someday.

 

[RebelWithACause]

You’re wrong man. I found this practitioner and Her analysis on me was that of what Helen thought. TEI completely missed this and was going to force copper on me until both she and Helen told me I’m likely copper toxic.

TEI is great and all, ARL too but experts are best. Thing is we don’t know whose an expert at this point and whose not. Helen is one. I think this woman is one- she got me doing really well post antibiotics before this fast. I hope I’m right.

Pedro Melo, like myself, did horrible on TEI. His reactions in hair analysis to all that copper is an obvious reaction that something is off.

Hair, blood, urine- whatever you can get and work with an expert is best way at going at this no doubt in my mind. Not just a practitioner because this science is so new, but an expert. Goal is to be one myself someday.

My practitioner did not understand anything. He said I should feel good immediately on the supps the first month.

I felt like shit for 4 months straight, yet I'm still here doing better than before I think people overthink too much and need to just do TEI. Keep the first two cycles short. If you fuck up with the copper you will see it in your next hair test I assume.

Now you get people after 1 tiny cycle they are scared to take the supplements.

You have to ask yourself are you doing the program or are you doing what the practitioner thinks. I figured it out pretty quickly that my practitioner was not that knowledgable. I chose to just be an autist about it and stick to the program no matter how much my body would complain. Dumb? Maybe. But it made me a lot better.

The first two cycles I just chose to stick to it no matter what. No matter how bad I would feel. I guess with copper this is riskier. Especially if you are a slow oxidizers. So maybe then you have to be careful.

Now this third cycle much easier.

I assume many people who did ARL and TEI in the past had a few bad cycles here and there. As long as the trend is correct I think a person caa heal. This is what I think. We will see if it is true. I have a lot of faith in TEI.

 

[bruschi11]

My practitioner did not understand anything. He said I should feel good immediately on the supps the first month.

I felt like shit for 4 months straight, yet I'm still here doing better than before I think people overthink too much and need to just do TEI. Keep the first two cycles short. If you fuck up with the copper you will see it in your next hair test I assume.

Now you get people after 1 tiny cycle they are scared to take the supplements.

You have to ask yourself are you doing the program or are you doing what the practitioner thinks. I figured it out pretty quickly that my practitioner was not that knowledgable. I chose to just be an autist about it and stick to the program no matter how much my body would complain. Dumb? Maybe. But it made me a lot better.

The first two cycles I just chose to stick to it no matter what. No matter how bad I would feel. I guess with copper this is riskier. Especially if you are a slow oxidizers. So maybe then you have to be careful.

Now this third cycle much easier.

I assume many people who did ARL and TEI in the past had a few bad cycles here and there. As long as the trend is correct I think a person caa heal. This is what I think. We will see if it is true. I have a lot of faith in TEI.

You’re not an expert. You talk a little too much.

As you said... taken you 4 months to feel a bit better.

I’ve accomplished a lot more in 4 months than you have on numerous occasions. I’m sure of that. I already have. If it weren’t for hydrogen water I’d be healed.

I think you need to take a back seat with all your blabbering here. You’re not experienced enough in this world of healing to talk as much as you do.

I don’t think I need to explain myself anymore. Pedro is trying to do what’s right for himself and you just go off on meaningless tangents in something you are nowhere near in expert in.

 

[RebelWithACause]

You’re not an expert. You talk a little too much.

As you said... taken you 4 months to feel a bit better.

I’ve accomplished a lot more in 4 months than you have on numerous occasions. I’m sure of that. I already have. If it weren’t for hydrogen water I’d be healed.

I think you need to take a back seat with all your blabbering here. You’re not experienced enough in this world of healing to talk as much as you do.

I don’t think I need to explain myself anymore. Pedro is trying to do what’s right for himself and you just go off on meaningless tangents in something you are nowhere near in expert in.

Dude I did not post this to bash you or claim I am an expert.

I am just sharing my experience. If you want to listen to a practitioner that also good. I am just saying what I have done and it at least got me out of a bad spot. I am not there yet... far from it.

But at least I feel like I am living a bit again. Which yes took 4 months. Slow and steady.

I think sharing the experience can help put things in perspective. I can only talk about my personal experience. I can talk good sweet words to Pedro but I have no clue. Only my experience is what I have so I share it with him. Goose experiences helped me to just keep going...

 

[Continuous Heal]

My experiences thus far (mid cycle 2):

I generally felt good on cycle 1, certainly better than I had been. I came out of it in four lows, and despite noticing the energy hit a lot (and being almost totally prevented from going to the gym), I actually felt better in four lows than I had at the beginning.

The last month or so in the middle of my second cycle was remarkable in terms of the libido boost. A break out of acne, which I think was driven by some form of androgen activity that has been depressed, and solid morning wood and spontaneous erections that I haven't had in years.

 

[Admiral]

This is something @Helen should shed some light on. No one seems to know if TEI/ARL reads copper toxicity properly.

 

[RebelWithACause]

If TEI cannot Read copper toxicity I must be worse after this current cycle. Although I started with high zinc in both 2 first cycles so maybe this fixed it.

ARL and TEI are used to fix copper toxicity... Why would they not be able to Read it?

 

[Helen]

the reason why TEI does what they do, is because they build minerals up in order. if they see that your zinc is lower than copper, they first build up zinc stores I assume, and then after that is build up give copper.

@bruschi11 fast oxidizer like you and lyme person like you , uses a lot of zinc and manganese in urea cycle. to detox ammonia.

this happens since cortisol is high,

 

[Helen]

practitioners are not experts, most of them know nothing. how can practitioner know anything about biochemistry.

The only thing I warn about is doing hairtests after some extreme things, like fasting or chelation etc. since in those cases hairtests can be wrong.

Do I know if TEI program is the best. or valid. I can not gaurantee that. That is why I am learning more and more myself also about how hairtests blood and urine are connected. and how it is all regulated, and I have been looking at it for years.

Normally practitioners which I met , can't answer any questions at all. And they can't understand all these connections, I still don't understand all these connections,

It could be that TEI program and their testing is on such amazing level that it is hard to grasp what they re doing exactly, or may be they are missing something and wrong in some simple aspects and this all could be done lets say much faster.

I'm looking into this and trying to figure everything out, it is not easy ))

What my experience, anyone who tried to do their own program, and fuck around minerals themselves did worse than on TEI in the end.


I saw only a couple of cases where people followed what I did and that was chelation and did faster than TEI.

but may be it was their specific case with heavy metals, like in my case, I knew my problem was lead. and of course taking cared of it with a chelator is faster than TEI

but in TEI case, lets say you are iron toxic and they will be pushing it out with copper, it causes bad sides.

or pushing out some other metals will take much longer.

We don't know if just substituting minerals and feeling better is the same as fixing the system.