The red pill: someone explain this to me

Nina

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I was just reading on reddit about this thing called ‘the red pill’ which is (in my eyes) basically about how to attract women.


However, it seems really weird and i dont quite get it. It seems that the guys on there use manipulation and emotional abuse to make a girl ‘submissive’. Like girls are some kind of robots made for sex and cooking for a man and basically pleasing him in every way possible.

Someone who knows about this stuff, please explain to me how this is supposed to work?

Yes obviously we like strong, confident men who know what they want but the guys who follow those ‘tactics’ are NOT natural ‘alpha males’.
 

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I was just reading on reddit about this thing called ‘the red pill’ which is (in my eyes) basically about how to attract women.


However, it seems really weird and i dont quite get it. It seems that the guys on there use manipulation and emotional abuse to make a girl ‘submissive’. Like girls are some kind of robots made for sex and cooking for a man and basically pleasing him in every way possible.

Someone who knows about this stuff, please explain to me how this is supposed to work?

Yes obviously we like strong, confident men who know what they want but the guys who follow those ‘tactics’ are NOT natural ‘alpha males’.
That's not what the original usage of the term red pill was. To red pill you, I'd show you how, for example, the democratic party has continually been the party of slavery since their inception and now are banning those who speak out against them because they can't compete intellectually. That would be red pilling you.

This version of red pilling you brought up is just a bunch of beta cucks that can't attract women
 

Nina

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That's not what the original usage of the term red pill was. To red pill you, I'd show you how, for example, the democratic party has continually been the party of slavery since their inception and now are banning those who speak out against them because they can't compete intellectually. That would be red pilling you.

This version of red pilling you brought up is just a bunch of beta cucks that can't attract women

Haha alright thats what i thought when i read those guys talking about their ‘tactics’.
 

Trump_1776

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I was just reading on reddit about this thing called ‘the red pill’ which is (in my eyes) basically about how to attract women.


However, it seems really weird and i dont quite get it. It seems that the guys on there use manipulation and emotional abuse to make a girl ‘submissive’. Like girls are some kind of robots made for sex and cooking for a man and basically pleasing him in every way possible.

Someone who knows about this stuff, please explain to me how this is supposed to work?

Yes obviously we like strong, confident men who know what they want but the guys who follow those ‘tactics’ are NOT natural ‘alpha males’.
I could go into why women are naturally submissive but it's fairly common knowledge at this point. The more things change the more they stay the same. To think you're gonna outdo thousands of years of hard-brain wiring by
Haha alright thats what i thought when i read those guys talking about their ‘tactics’.

Link me where you found that
 

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I could go into why women are naturally submissive but it's fairly common knowledge at this point. The more things change the more they stay the same. To think you're gonna outdo thousands of years of hard-brain wiring by


Link me where you found that

The reddit redpill sub
 

Nina

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@Nina You really want to start another definition-of-alpha-male flame war?

EDIT: Just look the matrix movie then you know what "the red pill" refers to.

Im not starting shit, im just asking how this is supposed to work.
 

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ah reddit. those guys are clowns.
like this reddit nofap guy who has (999999 problems) claims he's suicidal only because of a porn habit.
surely has nothing to do with no job, no friends, no money, out of shape, no ambitions, etc.
obviously that habit doesn't help. BUT* he's misattributing his sorrows with, just one bad habit.

i fought the entire city i used to live in on reddit. they were all crying. babies.

also reddit is literally the worst source of info, there is... for like 10 different things I can think about. a step above youtube comments. a step below forums like this.

crap for bodybuilding, work, trading, etc. mostly trash on there.

reddit ADHD?? bluelight (drug addicts) are smarter for sure. I went to their discord, they weren't even ADHD they were just an extremist transgender and an anti literacy group as far as I can tell. Reddit/bipolar?? Probably killed tons of kids with all their pro-medicine advice. (some good advice tho. some useful people there on those 2 groups).

So red pill? These same dumbass kids can't understand basic concepts let alone the true red pill.

(I am pretty confrontational/adversarial tho.)
 
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Usually guys who got walked all over when they were young and hold a lot of resentment cause of it, slowly realise that being a nice guy isn't going to get them laid so they go the other way entirely, which sometimes works short term getting laid but pushes them further away from genuine human relationships
 

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That's not what the original usage of the term red pill was. To red pill you, I'd show you how, for example, the democratic party has continually been the party of slavery since their inception and now are banning those who speak out against them because they can't compete intellectually. That would be red pilling you.

This version of red pilling you brought up is just a bunch of beta cucks that can't attract women

lol
 

BC2018

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Someone who knows about this stuff, please explain to me how this is supposed to work?
It doesn't mean anything anymore because those views went mainstream. But in the 2000s the term was taken from the movie The Matrix and used on blogs to signify a hard truth that society hides from people especially from men about how they are used.

Avoid those sites like reddit they are really bad for you. If you want to save yourself time and understand where they all get their ideas from read this infamous old book about beta men written by a woman: https://naturalthinker.net/trl/texts/Vilar,Esther/The_manipulated_man.pdf
Yes obviously we like strong, confident men who know what they want but the guys who follow those ‘tactics’ are NOT natural ‘alpha males’.
I haven't seen a natural alpha male in over 20 years. I also haven't seen a natural woman in about as long. The closest thing there is now are men with good genes. Since the rest of us cannot change our genes and still want to get sex or a social life most resort to trying to fool girls. Some of it is shameful shortcut taking, some of it is desperation or honest determination, you have no idea how hard the average guy has it to get a girlfriend in the last 10 or 15 years.
 

Nina

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It doesn't mean anything anymore because those views went mainstream. But in the 2000s the term was taken from the movie The Matrix and used on blogs to signify a hard truth that society hides from people especially from men about how they are used.

Avoid those sites like reddit they are really bad for you. If you want to save yourself time and understand where they all get their ideas from read this infamous old book about beta men written by a woman: https://naturalthinker.net/trl/texts/Vilar,Esther/The_manipulated_man.pdf

I haven't seen a natural alpha male in over 20 years. I also haven't seen a natural woman in about as long. The closest thing there is now are men with good genes. Since the rest of us cannot change our genes and still want to get sex or a social life most resort to trying to fool girls. Some of it is shameful shortcut taking, some of it is desperation or honest determination, you have no idea how hard the average guy has it to get a girlfriend in the last 10 or 15 years.

I dont get how a girl could fall for a guy who acts this way though. Its disrespectful to me and i wouldnt put up with that.
 

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no one's completely natural.
everyone puts on a face.
and yes many guys and women have become corrupted.
but some people aren't "bad" so much as they are the way that they are, because it's necessary.

people take it too far. some deceit in dating is fine. like you can't explain super complicated (borderline insane) medical history on one date (most likely).
And maybe someone makes more but they act like they make less. maybe someone makes less but they act like it's more.

People who've been screwed around too much, can take it too far. That's true of men and women. Red Pill is far more than just dating. And mostly, looking good, being fit etc, helps mental game more than "actual dating success", and is more important for confidence. I'm sure there's people on either side with good intentions as well as bad. Some are so sensitive, they become defensively very insensitive and over the course of years they get stuck in their ways. They become shattered, get stronger. Grow. But they see they still can't get what they want. So they become manipulative, vengeful, and selfish like they see everyone else.

I always felt you can learn from the highest and the lowest in some ways.

People are replacable. Even best friends commit betrayals. Relationships come and go. (Some) family, friends, and love etc isn't replacable tho.
You gotta be cold, son.

I'll say this, there is less love and magic and happiness at viewing the world all transactionally, machiavellian like. some would say.
 
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BC2018

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I dont get how a girl could fall for a guy who acts this way though. Its disrespectful to me and i wouldnt put up with that.
Of course its disrespectful from a white perspective but in most negro and hispanic areas it's the norm. If this kind of sexualized caveman society hasn't come to you yet like it did to America decades ago then it is in the process because of "globalization" like immigration and American tv. I don't agree with the use of the term but to redpill a nice guy is to point out that selfish assholes get the prettiest girlfriends while kind, hardworking, respectful guys get nothing but loneliness.
 
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Nina

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That's exactly what my last girlfriend said to me

Haha ok i get it but like, i might feel attracted to it but i wouldnt let myself go there if you know what i mean.
 

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That's not what the original usage of the term red pill was. To red pill you, I'd show you how, for example, the democratic party has continually been the party of slavery since their inception and now are banning those who speak out against them because they can't compete intellectually. That would be red pilling you.
Sshhh, Hillary is listening.
 
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Niles

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Of course its disrespectful from a white perspective but in most negro and hispanic areas it's the norm. If this kind of sexualized caveman society hasn't come to you yet like it did to America decades ago then it is in the process because of "globalization" like immigration and American tv. I don't agree with the use of the term but to redpill a nice guy is to point out that selfish assholes get the prettiest girlfriends while kind, hardworking, respectful guys get nothing but loneliness.
Selfish assholes may get pretty girls, but their girls are usually shallow selfish assholes too. Redpilled guys are socially isolated men who once thought that being "nice" entitled them to women, and instead of developing real social skills, respect, and emotional intelligence to remedy the issue developed a disrespect for women and resorted to exploiting manipulative tactics to get laid.

That's not to say that I don't have some level of sympathy for them, though. Modern life has emotionally isolated people and devalued real, face-to-face social interaction for its own sake. It's no surprise that we now have all these men who are lonely, sad, and often angry or resentful. Redpill, incels, etc., all symptoms of the same societal disease.
 
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