The red pill: someone explain this to me

[Trump_1776]

Haha ok i get it but like, i might feel attracted to it but i wouldnt let myself go there if you know what i mean.

You just kinda proved their point.

 

[Trump_1776]

And then he asked,

 

[Nina]

You just kinda proved their point.

No because they still wouldn’t succeed now would they?

 

[Trump_1776]

No because they still wouldn’t succeed now would they?

We both know they would

 

[Nina]

We both know they would

I still dont agree

 

[BC2018]

Redpilled guys are socially isolated men who once thought that being "nice" entitled them to women,

Ya imagine that they thought that being a good person and working deligently and producing the national wealth and comfort that western women like you enjoy would get them a partner who they could start a family with. And they had the whole society including every girl and woman they met including you repeating this myth to be nice and work harder and they would eventually be rewarded with a girlriend of their own. Imagine that, they actually expected to be happy when all they deserve is to suffer depression because they weren't born female or tall and attractive. Eventually after enough men were conned the word started getting around that society had long changed and good men get shafted. Some of the younger ones called this redpill because they weren't creative or well read and there was a popular but stupid movie at the time called Matrix which used the analogy of swallowing a blue pill for comfortable lies and a red for an uncomfortable truth.

and instead of developing real social skills, respect, and emotional intelligence to remedy the issue developed a disrespect for women and resorted to exploiting manipulative tactics to get laid.

That's not to say that I don't have some level of sympathy for them, though. Modern life has emotionally isolated people and devalued real, face-to-face social interaction for its own sake. It's no surprise that we now have all these men who are lonely, sad, and often angry or resentful. Redpill, incels, etc., all symptoms of the same societal disease.

You're conveniently blaming boys for being cowards and disingenuous leaving out that even the ugliest woman can get dozens of boyfriends but a large portion of teenage boys and grown men are considered not good enough to go on a date with because of their genes. And this is getting worse with every year because of the medications young males are given and other factors that are causing puberty development problems. So the good looking men who are tall and have muscles are free to act like assholes with no consequences, they will still have multiple girlfriends at the same time because women think they are entitled to all the sex, and the below average men are rejected no matter if they reach perfection in personality because they were unfortunate with genes or with hormones during their puberty because they were raised in a broken household.

 

[Brute]

This thread is cringe and bluepilled

 

[supernature]

I still dont agree

But you still seems curious as well. Its the curiosity that killed the cat, not the fact its a cat and likes to explore.

Plus that pill might be applicable only to certain types of cats, not all.

 

[Aleksandr]

This kind of stuff is all bullshit.

It might work in the short term, but us TEI'ers aim to live forever

amiright?

 

[supernature]

It doesn't mean anything anymore because those views went mainstream. But in the 2000s the term was taken from the movie The Matrix and used on blogs to signify a hard truth that society hides from people especially from men about how they are used.

Some of the younger ones called this redpill because they weren't creative or well read and there was a popular but stupid movie at the time called Matrix which used the analogy of swallowing a blue pill for comfortable lies and a red for an uncomfortable truth.

Redpilled guys are socially isolated men who once thought that being "nice" entitled them to women, and instead of developing real social skills, respect, and emotional intelligence to remedy the issue developed a disrespect for women and resorted to exploiting manipulative tactics to get laid.

Even in the movie the author says it, the man needs to see the good and the bad and even the good is comfortable also need the bad so to feel the difference, cant have just one of them.


This socially isolated man could refer also to the one who are "isolating" themselves by choice not by the society. There is difference b/w jilted and awake.

 

[opiath]

I've been reading TRP for 7 years already and right from its inception it has never really been about manipulating women.
It has always been about building yourself to be a better man. Just like this forum.
Exposing the workings of female instincts and biology is just a necessary part of it.
To make the best decisions you need to have objective information.

If all you see is "tactics", "gimmicks" and manipulation you lack a deep understanding of the subject.
In a way it is the same as hackstasis.
What we do here is try to understand the interactions between minerals and hormones so we can fix our health.
On TRP they try to understand the interactions between men and women so they can make their lives better.

It's a toolbox and people take from it what they need.
People who go there and ask: "How can I get this girl to have sex with me?"
are the same like those who come here and ask: "Which pill do I take to fix my health problems".
They just lack experience and knowledge.

"alpha" and "beta" are abstract terms and just like every abstraction they don't exist outside the human mind.
They are only meant to convey information.

Women and men who go on TRP and get offended are like those who got offended
when they read gbolduev's posts on raypeat forum just because he operates in a different framework.

 

[Niles]

I've been reading TRP for 7 years already and right from its inception it has never really been about manipulating women.
It has always been about building yourself to be a better man. Just like this forum.
Exposing the workings of female instincts and biology is just a necessary part of it.
To make the best decisions you need to have objective information.

If all you see is "tactics", "gimmicks" and manipulation you lack a deep understanding of the subject.
In a way it is the same as hackstasis.
What we do here is try to understand the interactions between minerals and hormones so we can fix our health.
On TRP they try to understand the interactions between men and women so they can make their lives better.

It's a toolbox and people take from it what they need.
People who go there and ask: "How can I get this girl to have sex with me?"
are the same like those who come here and ask: "Which pill do I take to fix my health problems".
They just lack experience and knowledge.

"alpha" and "beta" are abstract terms and just like every abstraction they don't exist outside the human mind.
They are only meant to convey information.

Women and men who go on TRP and get offended are like those who got offended
when they read gbolduev's posts on raypeat forum just because he operates in a different framework.

There's nothing wrong with forming a positive identity for men and discussing how to be successful with women, and I don't think anyone would argue otherwise. The problem is that the impulse to use language like you have, "exposing the workings of female instincts and biology", quickly leads to a lack of respect for women's autonomy as individuals. When men start thinking of women as some strange separate species to be tamed, it dehumanizes women and allows for the circulation of toxic ideas like biological superiority of men over women. This is why on redpill forums you regularly see talk of men seeking a properly "submissive" woman, who they can manipulate into becoming something akin to a domestic slave.

To say that redpill isn't dangerous is like saying eugenics isn't dangerous. The abstract theory can seem harmless or even beneficial, but once you start to discuss the finer points of putting it to practice, it becomes clear that it's based on harmful ideas that eventually necessitate the degradation of humans' rights as individuals.

 

[AgustinC]

loneliness and virtual echochambers at the same time. ideas out of touch with reality as coping mechanisms.

I don't blame them, when my mental sides are bad I can mentally relate to incels and homeless people.
There are other branchs of this line of thinking, some more sane than others, like RSD/PUA.

 

[opiath]

There's nothing wrong with forming a positive identity for men and discussing how to be successful with women, and I don't think anyone would argue otherwise. The problem is that the impulse to use language like you have, "exposing the workings of female instincts and biology", quickly leads to a lack of respect for women's autonomy as individuals. When men start thinking of women as some strange separate species to be tamed, it dehumanizes women and allows for the circulation of toxic ideas like biological superiority of men over women. This is why on redpill forums you regularly see talk of men seeking a properly "submissive" woman, who they can manipulate into becoming something akin to a domestic slave.

To say that redpill isn't dangerous is like saying eugenics isn't dangerous. The abstract theory can seem harmless or even beneficial, but once you start to discuss the finer points of putting it to practice, it becomes clear that it's based on harmful ideas that eventually necessitate the degradation of humans' rights as individuals.

I fully agree with you there.
It is a pitfall that many men fall into once they start reading TRP.
They adopt this pump-and-dump mindset towards women which benefits neither women neither men in the long run.
But this is a problem with morality and integrity.
The theory in itself is amoral. How you use it is your choice.
In the wrong hands it is dangerous but people living with false understanding of biological imperatives is more detrimental.

Living in a fantasy world and ignoring reality does no one any good.
Like modern medicine and climate change.
People believe medicine is progressing in the right direction but it ignores mineral balance
and then you get pills like finasteride which screws with people.
People also believe carbon emissions have no consequences and we drive up our population, economies and resource consumption.

At our current state decisions based on wrong information destroy our civilization.
We either strive for objective truths in all things or we all go down.

It is not about superiority of man over women.
It is about female hormonal state creating female solipsism and clueless men satisfying women's whims because they want sex.
And by doing so wasting resources, time and energy.

 

[supernature]

Heres the real red pill that needs the attention, watch now, thank me later
Above Majestic

 

[MNK99]

dep on your career, what you do, what kind of assholes you know.... ev1s manipulative.
sometimes it's just countermanipulation people run.
Also life's super degrading for all, from the Cradle to the Grave.
Not to seem cynical. Not to sound cynical. I'm not that cynical. Most people are more cynical than me. I'm an optimist.

 

[supernature]

The story goes way before your life and is gonna go beyond, its way bigger than what officially is been told publicly to us

 

[Reverse]

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I dont get how a girl could fall for a guy who acts this way though. Its disrespectful to me and i wouldnt put up with that.

How could a girl fall for a guy like that?

Girls who come from fatherless homes and/or witnessed abuses between her parents. This has become quiet the norm in the west and is now infecting most populations.

Another reason for them falling for these guys is:

Boys being raised in extreme feminist environments which has infected the natural dialogue and social behaviors between men and women. Hence, boys will not behave and interact as they normally would and have no guidance in how to be men for themselves, and much less how to be a man in a relationship.

Therefore males go to the extreme cartoonish version of a man which was either taught to them via feminist indoctrination or reddit?

And the females are looking to rebel against the feminist religion so they go for that joke of a man instead of a real man who is balanced, confident, stable and doesnt care to play games.

 

[Nina]

I fully agree with you there.
It is a pitfall that many men fall into once they start reading TRP.
They adopt this pump-and-dump mindset towards women which benefits neither women neither men in the long run.
But this is a problem with morality and integrity.
The theory in itself is amoral. How you use it is your choice.
In the wrong hands it is dangerous but people living with false understanding of biological imperatives is more detrimental.

Living in a fantasy world and ignoring reality does no one any good.
Like modern medicine and climate change.
People believe medicine is progressing in the right direction but it ignores mineral balance
and then you get pills like finasteride which screws with people.
People also believe carbon emissions have no consequences and we drive up our population, economies and resource consumption.

At our current state decisions based on wrong information destroy our civilization.
We either strive for objective truths in all things or we all go down.

It is not about superiority of man over women.
It is about female hormonal state creating female solipsism and clueless men satisfying women's whims because they want sex.
And by doing so wasting resources, time and energy.

Very wise words you got there, i like it and i completely agree.

 

[Reverse]

I still dont agree

The wrong type of guy or girl can perform a convincing act. Need to know the red flags.