URINE therapy LOG( THIS IS NOT A PROTOCOL, and HELPED NO ONE, THIS IS JUST A TRIAL , I DON'T HAVE PFS)

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bruschi11 said:
Urea gave me 2 really good hours or so @mahounie now crazy fatigue for last 15. Think that’s the end of my experiment here.
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Thanks for update, yeah that's not good unless your baseline energy becomes better in next three days+. I think it needs to be taken with minerals always. What amount did you take the first time? Can you try with a lower amount and the dead sea salt bath + epsom salt bath the same time / within the first hour. I want to understand why you crash (Did you crash lower than normal as I understand from your history you have chronic fatigue?), I think it's magnesium or sodium related, but there are other things to consider as well (increased amino acid turn over, you're low in some e.g histidine or then manganese-related).

Yeah but if you try urea + minerals. Next from there is urine (unfortunately lol). But it's definitely not an answer to all, keep the eye on the big picture.

I checked your post history, with your complicated past I would experiment carefully, so I understand if you don't want to continue or want to take some time off.
 
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Can't believe I am considering this.

Can this be added to an ARL/TEI program? Or will is screw with the ratio's?
 
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This is MY Log, I don't have the verdict on this therapy yet. Don't take it with TEI.

I was already basically recovered from PFS when I started this.

We have couple of people trying this out, if they recover than others can try it.

It is not an approved method yet. since as I claim I dont' feel balanced on it yet.

It did give me many benefits so far. and libido and strength is thru the roof. but I was responsive to steroids also

I mean one week on B1 and my hands were super hairy.
 
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Admiral said:
Can't believe I am considering this.

Can this be added to an ARL/TEI program? Or will is screw with the ratio's?
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Wait for Helen to come to conclusions on the context and making an update.

More important is what is the actual context, why it helps and do all the problems reappear (where you drink your urine again and then what? keep doing the same thing over and over again?). Can we come up with an angle to fix the problems in more of its root that no urine drinking is needed? Let's keep the eye on the big picture and some clarity if there was actually some receptors "resensitized"/balanced from the bad stuff.

You guys want to jump from one therapy to another (hydrogen water lol). Maybe the head wanting a change and jumping from one cheap fix (drugs, hormones, girls, therapies) to another is part of the problem that long-term baseline improvements are harder.
 
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mahounie said:
Wait for Helen to come to conclusions on the context and making an update.

More important is what is the actual context, why it helps and do all the problems reappear (where you drink your urine again and then what? keep doing the same thing over and over again?). Can we come up with an angle to fix the problems in more of its root that no urine drinking is needed? Let's keep the eye on the big picture and some clarity if there was actually some receptors "resensitized"/balanced from the bad stuff.

You guys want to jump from one therapy to another (hydrogen water lol). Maybe the head wanting a change and jumping from one cheap fix (drugs, hormones, girls, therapies) to another is part of the problem that long-term baseline improvements are harder.
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Urine therapy is not a short term fix. the reason why I am trying it , is to see if this could be faster than TEI. Since TEI do the same thing. They readjust the body using mineral system without just substituting stuff. Meaning they dont give you stuff that you feel good on, they readjust the mineral system how it is supposed to be. and if it feels bad, you had to deal with it thru healing reactions

The fix for PFS is not short term. And will never be. since PFS is not even a disease , the real disease was pre PFS. this is why PFS happened in the first place.




Problems do not reappear when you quit TEI, you feel bettter off the program at all times.

Same as with urine, since it is contrarian approach , it is not a substitution therapy. Otherwise I would not even try it.

If I am correct on urine therapy then it fixes the problem at the root cause. which NO one will be able to fix or research since people are just all different.

And taking this or that drug for receptors, for this for that. fixes one thing and kills another. If my theory on urine is correct, then it is a perfect contrarian endocrionology method.




This is all theoretical still. It is not a protocol, THIS IS A LOG


PFS is a problem with the cell redox system, same as CFS, ME etc. to fix that a lot of things need to be restored at once.

I suggested electrolytes protocol for that, TEI also does the same. Now I am trying urine therapy, since in theory it should be the strongest and more precise. but that is just in theory
 
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Yeah my advice would also be to not stop what you are doing and suddenly start drinking your piss.i only started from being in a very bad situation that I am still in and had nothing to loose. Iwill keep updating my progress here for the next month and hopefully will begin to know more and be able to speak with more confidence and detail about this pee business by then. Having said all of that it does seem to be a powerful kind of therapy but I just don't know where it will take me and how.
 
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Just choose something and stick with it. Even if it is not perfect. TEi/ARL/Electrolyte protocol/Other protocol that has results.

Look at cdnuts protocol. It is probably not perfect (perfect ratio's etc.) but if you stick with it the body fixes itself to a point where you do not have PFS.

Let's see results from Helen and other people first.
 
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Helen said:
Here is a message of some dude, who took dutasteride and accutane @lakehouse

"I came across this thread via search engine, as I was considering starting up dutasteride again for hairloss (tried it briefly in the past, got spooked and stopped).
After reading what I’ve seen here, I think I will pass on trying it again.
I do want to share a method I’ve come across however that I believe works. Look into urine therapy and distilled water. I don’t want to spam the board since I’m a newbie here, however, it’s extremely powerful stuff, especially the former (urine therapy).
I’m quite knowledgeable on the topic so if you have any questions, let me know. The ED and sexual sides from my brief Dut session, as well as long-lingering deep-down depression from my accutane days, both appear to have vanished thanks to UT and/or distilled water."
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i guess im up next in this urine quest LMAO
 
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How is that!? I swear my piss is the most potent in the morning after having slept all night. It would seem to me that it would be the strongest taste at that point.
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you drink piss with TEI, bad boy? LOL
 
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Seems most people that tried urine therapy recomend it along with a fast, even saying how after a few days they started liking the taste of it.
 
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I found an interesting article about urine therapy, it says you should limit animal products during therapy and that some people drink urine after sex for the hormones, among other things:

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