WARNING( STOP RANDOMLY USING RU< CABERGOLINES< DHT CYRPO or any end metabolism products like l DOPA SSRI, MAOI etc) , ONLY WITH TESTS

[Jaxx]

Wrongfully raised meaning that prolactin should be 2 on scale of 2 -20. but it is 15)

That will retain extra calcium which should be prohibited in this body chemistry


This is why in barbaar test, you see highish calcium in blood and very high calcium in the URINE. and high calcium on the hairtest.


To fight this calcium. BODY raised progesterone , and tried to retain as much potassium as it can. And it STOPS cortisol. CORTISOL IS NOT ALLOWED when body is trying to raise potassium. Since cortisol WASTES POTASSIUM. THUS you see very low POTASSIUM in the urine.

Also this raised progesterone WASTES SODIUM. THIS IS WHY SODIUM Is increased FOLDS in the URINE.


SO this mistake in calcium metabolism( PROLACTIN regulation., causes the body to retain potassium and get rid of sodium.

What would you expect to happen in Barbaar’s case if he would take caber, as his prolactin is high and would be lowered?

 

[Helen]

What would you expect to happen in Barbaar’s case if he would take caber, as his prolactin is high and would be lowered?

It depends what is the reason of high prolactin. If it is not making neurotransmitters at all. then it wont do anything.

IF it is MAO problem, then it would help him, slightly, but he will still have low serotonin, so will be fucked and go back on SSRI

Since , so you upregulate dopamine when you have both low serotonin and dopamine. This will raise metabolism

but without serotonin, you will not get to cortisol. SO you will get anxiety. And no way you can live with it.

The question I have here left is this. Is the body methylating the neurotransmitters, but breaks them down excessively , or , the body does not generate them at all

Thsi can be seen by homovanilic acid

Cabers are not real solutions here. or any drugs, we need proper regulation of all systems, Not just go from one problem to another.

 

[Jaxx]

Talkingant tests are THE SAME by the way.

I might miss this somehow, but Talkingant's tests seem well within range on almost all level https://hackstasis.com/threads/talkingant-tests-pssd.366/

Serum calcium, sodium, hormones all normal. Also TEI was pretty normal (ARL wasnt however). Only cortisol and B2 stood out, at least for me, maybe you are looking at ratio's more?
Barbaar had alot more low/high readings...hell he had a few within range

 

[Admiral]

Nitric oxide protocol is taken by Tallglass, I wrote in hairloss section, about it, and that protocol is completely different, it has SODS, it has glutathione components as main component.

Just by creating NO you create oxidative stress, and that is why it is SWITCHED OFF. SO to turn it back on , you need to kill oxidative stress , and not just feed Arginine

I can't find your version of the NO protocol. What's in it besides the stuff Talglass takes? I need something if I want to have sex again.

 

[Helen]

I might miss this somehow, but Talkingant's tests seem well within range on almost all level https://hackstasis.com/threads/talkingant-tests-pssd.366/

Serum calcium, sodium, hormones all normal. Also TEI was pretty normal (ARL wasnt however). Only cortisol and B2 stood out, at least for me, maybe you are looking at ratio's more?
Barbaar had alot more low/high readings...hell he had a few within range

NO, bud they are not. tests are the same.

ON TEI he has zero potassium, Meaning that he simply does not even have enough b2 to raise progesterone high enough. IF he had enough b2 , progesterone would have been even higher.

These are the same tests. Barbaar slightly compensates better.

Talkinggant got iron problems also, that is why B2 is totally killed. To underdectable.

 

[Helen]

I can't find your version of the NO protocol. What's in it besides the stuff Talglass takes? I need something if I want to have sex again.

you are on the program. WTF

As I told you , go on TEI> calcium is stopping your libido now

 

[Admiral]

you are on the program. WTF

Haha Helen! I need to get laid every once and a while. I already live like a zombie. What else do you suggest?

 

[Helen]

Haha Helen! I need to get laid every once and a while. I already live like a zombie. What else do you suggest?

you either on the program, or you are off the program. and do other shit.

While on programs, suggesting things is wasting your money

 

[Area-1255]

I never recommend Cabergoline anyway; due to Risk of Heart Valve issues with the Drug + it has Serotonergic & Dissociative Effects...could cause Issues for Sensitive people with already long-standing Cognition problems!

 

[Helen]

I never recommend Cabergoline anyway; due to Risk of Heart Valve issues with the Drug + it has Serotonergic & Dissociative Effects...could cause Issues for Sensitive people with already long-standing Cognition problems!

Anything that ups D receptors will have those sides in certain body chemistries.


This is why in emergency rooms, they give people calcium gluconate all the time. Since idiots keep taking dopamine agonists with inability to even retain calcium LOL and freaking dying.

They Read the internet, and then just decide to load on some shit. And then emergency room. with palpitations.

 

[talkingant]

I agree with us being risk averse, especially for those who are less technical. On the other hand, we need as much data as possible, so we need people experimenting with different things. But the experiments should be more organized and have some analysis of the potential risks vs benefits.

Most of us are here because we took a short/small dosage of a drug like fin or SSRI that permanently fucked us up, so we know firsthand how risky it is to mess with these biological systems.

So I think we should propose some guidelines on the forum, something like:

Guidelines for post-5ar PFS/PSSD/PAS etc:
1. If you are new to this forum, get these tests.....(list of blood/urine/hair tests in order of importance)
2. If you just want to jump into something that may help, try these relatively safe protocols:....(fasting, TEI, electrolyte, etc)
3. If you got your tests results and posted them here, and you fully understand the risks, you can try these experimental protocols:.....(list)

Then we sticky that thread somewhere everyone will see it. Maybe even get @Tubzy to make a "Start Here" tab on the top of the page. And we should update it from time to time. It would help avoid the need for these threads.

 

[Helen]

I agree with us being risk averse, especially for those who are less technical. On the other hand, we need as much data as possible, so we need people experimenting with different things. But the experiments should be more organized and have some analysis of the potential risks vs benefits.

Most of us are here because we took a short/small dosage of a drug like fin or SSRI that permanently fucked us up, so we know firsthand how risky it is to mess with these biological systems.

So I think we should propose some guidelines on the forum, something like:

Guidelines for post-5ar PFS/PSSD/PAS etc:
1. If you are new to this forum, get these tests.....(list of blood/urine/hair tests in order of importance)
2. If you just want to jump into something that may help, try these relatively safe protocols:....(fasting, TEI, electrolyte, etc)
3. If you got your tests results and posted them here, and you fully understand the risks, you can try these experimental protocols:.....(list)

Then we sticky that thread somewhere everyone will see it. Maybe even get @Tubzy to make a "Start Here" tab on the top of the page. And we should update it from time to time. It would help avoid the need for these threads.

Yes , I totally agree. People like you , Barbaar, Tubyz, and couple of others got tested,

it is the new people I am worried, and people who dont even undertstand what dopamine is. They just take random shit and it hurts my heart when I see their logs

 

[Tar]

The amount of confidence displayed in new experiments, new methods, new substances and protocols is not lining up with the results experienced. That gap is narrowing. Happened on RPF too when people realized a little b2 didn't cure rosacea, thyroid was harder to manage then they thought, and eating more did not increase metabolism.

 

[RebelWithACause]

The amount of confidence displayed in new experiments, new methods, new substances and protocols is not lining up with the results experienced. That gap is narrowing. Happened on RPF too when people realized a little b2 didn't cure rosacea, thyroid was harder to manage then they thought, and eating more did not increase metabolism.

Yes it is true. I think this is beginning optimism but then you find out it is not quick fix and seem to go back and forth with how you feel. But is not bad thing. This needs to happen to move forward.

 

[Helen]

Yes it is true. I think this is beginning optimism but then you find out it is not quick fix and seem to go back and forth with how you feel. But is not bad thing. This needs to happen to move forward.

it is a quick fix. I'm at 110% within a month

 

[RebelWithACause]

it is a quick fix. I'm at 110% within a month

I mean finding fix for the individual. It seems to have different effects on body chemistry.

 

[ruprmurdoch]

Nitric oxide protocol is taken by Tallglass, I wrote in hairloss section, about it, and that protocol is completely different, it has SODS, it has glutathione components as main component.

Just by creating NO you create oxidative stress, and that is why it is SWITCHED OFF. SO to turn it back on , you need to kill oxidative stress , and not just feed Arginine.

This protocol from first post + kcl, mgcl,nacl is ok? https://hackstasis.com/threads/nitric-oxide-protocol.1134/

 

[Helen]

This protocol from first post + kcl, mgcl,nacl is ok? https://hackstasis.com/threads/nitric-oxide-protocol.1134/

Nitric oxide works when you support SODs, glutathione etc.

Why dont you try something what Swaz is doing now.

 

[Jaxx]

@Helen overview of pssd tests: PSSD Collaborative Research • View topic - Blood Test Results

 

[Trump_1776]

Wrongfully raised meaning that prolactin should be 2 on scale of 2 -20. but it is 15)

That will retain extra calcium which should be prohibited in this body chemistry


This is why in barbaar test, you see highish calcium in blood and very high calcium in the URINE. and high calcium on the hairtest.


To fight this calcium. BODY raised progesterone , and tried to retain as much potassium as it can. And it STOPS cortisol. CORTISOL IS NOT ALLOWED when body is trying to raise potassium. Since cortisol WASTES POTASSIUM. THUS you see very low POTASSIUM in the urine.

Also this raised progesterone WASTES SODIUM. THIS IS WHY SODIUM Is increased FOLDS in the URINE.


SO this mistake in calcium metabolism( PROLACTIN regulation., causes the body to retain potassium and get rid of sodium.

What level should prolactin be at normally