Why teeth go bad (and how to reverse damage)

[Legna88]

I read that teeth health is connected with blood sugar and calcium phosphate levels/ratios (probably is connected to more stuff as well)... what do you know about this topic?

can teeth holes, decay be reversed?

what is an optimal daily dental hygiene routine to maintain health of teeth(to prevent holes/decay)

some people say to brush with glycerin free soap immediately after every meal, because soap washes off acids the fastest.. because it is the acids and not bacteria that causes decay/holes in teeth

others say its bacteria that causes holes/decay and gargling when waking up and before sleep with a mixture of salt and vinegar will prevent bacteria from damaging teeth

two different theories

others say to hold milk or calcium solution in mouth for a few minutes after they are cleaned, after meals to remineralize teeth ( i wonder if calcium phosphate is better to rinse/hold, or is ca-phosphate acidic?)

i also read that eating 1 tsp. powdered eggshells three times per day will remineralize teeth

i believe dental health is extremely important to maintain health

share ur knowledge here...

 

[MNK99]

-I am not saying really from a mineral level here.
-This is in line with what a dental hygienists, facial surgeons, dentists would recommend:
-Flossing, Brushing (electric toothbrush/ oral B), Mouth rinse (listerine zero alcohol version, "listerine zero") after every meal. At least twice a day. Every meal may seem obsessive to some.
-And if you are a stress-case like I am, Night guard/ Mouth guard at night to prevent clenching and fractures and such.
-Avoiding (a lot of) medications because they all cause dehydration and often lessened saliva production (which means you are decalcifying I think). I think it effects phosphate-calcium ratio.
-Use a straw with every drink that isn't water.
-I do know that some people have had horrendous teeth due to dilantin, carbamazepine, and other anticonvulsants (possibly all of the older ones), and some got a bit better but most never did. Those are extreme damages tho. Stimulants too = grinding, clenching.
-I had perfect teeth until 20, then blacked out lost part of one. Got a veneer (looks great).
-Near perfect teeth till 26 (but some caffeine/nicotine staining). Then 28 -- a ton of hairline fractures supposedly (clenching/ grinding). Since then wary of any medication.
-I may be crazy but I thought I saw some shrinkage of teeth or overgrowth of gums, med-induced gingival hyperplasia. But I got my (long time) hygienist to check, she says same or very close kind of set as when I was like 20. I don't know if she's right. I'll get xrays later. drug-induced = medication caused.
-Also rinse teeth and drink water after any medicine at all (inhalers, pills, supplements, whatever).
-bathing in acidic or alkaline drinks as well (possibly), bad hygiene, practically all medications, alcohol and drugs, not drinking with a straw, not hydrating properly all can wear down enamel and cause permanent damage to teeth. Most things aren't too too permanent if you get really rich (can buy new teeth), that's not ideal tho.
-don't let them bathe in anything acidic: ----- coffee, tea, sodas, or most drinks (I don't even let them touch almond milk usually). Possibly alkaline is good or not? I don't know.
-all that causes demineralization and then enamel loss.

-Biotene is good to add hydration to a dry mouth.

 

[Canari]

What I learned from experience, as I started with good teeth and then it worsened...
- Fructose is very good at decaying teeth.
I got my main problems when I used fructose as a powder and marmelade etc in my 20s, as I have tendency to high glucose.
Then in Peating with fruits, skyrocket and not finished to treat over 10 decays!

- Do not brush within 30mns after a meal, as enamel is more tender then. Wait.

- Be careful with baking soda.... never swallow, as it is alkaline.
It is harsh to teeth, so do not brush except when you really want to remove some plaque.
Use it as a mouth cleanse, especially after acid like orange tomato etc.
Rinse your mouth before swallowing.

- special twigs, called miswak or siwak, do work. You will not stop passing your tongue on your teeth without beliving how smooth they are! The top advantages...
Get one in your pocket for outside home meals! No need for water, toothpaste.... only the twig.
If you have a painful tooth, is will not hurt. No bleeding either.

- xilitol
It works great as a mouth wash after all meals and drinks, but it is advisable to not swallow it, especially when having reflux or heartburn. So gargle etc, and spit.

- Cacao powder. Not sure, but I have read you can also use it as a toothpaste!

- I use natural soap as tooth paste... works well... very handy in journeys. Yes I still use a tooth brush and not only the twig...

 

[Legna88]

this is interesting: Fix Your Teeth, Dr. Gerard Judd

the author had all his teeth at 90+ years old in pretty much perfect conditions following his own advice..

here is his book: http://www.rexresearch.com/judd/goodteeth.pdf

here is another teeth guru: Home Dental Help by Robert J. W. Nara
The OraMedia site for Dental Self Sufficiency

and his book: http://rexresearch.com/nara/MoneyByTheMouthful.pdf

the first two have opposite theories, on says its the acids that cause teeth problems, the other says its bacteria..

and than there is another teeth guru who recommend rinsing with calcium: Calcium Therapy Institute - Oral-Cal Mouth Rinse

thoughts?

 

[MNK99]

It's both. Talk to several dentists, or read some textbooks or studies in it.
there is no singular mineral-based cure for every dental disease in the world. Biology and self-preservation are not magic.

 

[mattyb]

Honestly, just follow this protocol:

Lubbock Dentist | Kathleen Nichols, DDS
http://www.kathleennicholsdds.com/docs/POST-TREATMENT-FOR-DENTAL-HEALTH-PROTOCOL.pdf

Kathleen Nichols has the lowest rate of dental carries in her practice in the US, the one time she got beat it was by another dentist who she trained on these protocols. I think the only thing that needs to be added to this is calcium + vitamin D + vitamin K as a mouth-rinse.

 

[jaa]

Honestly, just follow this protocol:

Lubbock Dentist | Kathleen Nichols, DDS
http://www.kathleennicholsdds.com/docs/POST-TREATMENT-FOR-DENTAL-HEALTH-PROTOCOL.pdf

Kathleen Nichols has the lowest rate of dental carries in her practice in the US, the one time she got beat it was by another dentist who she trained on these protocols. I think the only thing that needs to be added to this is calcium + vitamin D + vitamin K as a mouth-rinse.

You mentioned you use a xylitol + calcium product. Which one? I'm having trouble finding that combo.

 

[mattyb]

You mentioned you use a xylitol + calcium product. Which one? I'm having trouble finding that combo.

I use Xlear Spry mints. For some reason it doesn't list calcium lactate as an ingredient online, but it does have it listed as an ingredient on the container.

 

[Nina]

Too much/too high carbs/sugar consumption and high calcium to phosphorus levels is a big one in teeth health.

 

[Canari]

I use Xlear Spry mints. For some reason it doesn't list calcium lactate as an ingredient online, but it does have it listed as an ingredient on the container.

Dont you think there is a problem with the HCl protocol if xilitol gives reflux?
With mints, you have to swallow, and in RPF more people are noting problems with such little quantities, and I hav begun to suspect this is the cause of my strange stomach pains and burps...
i have started to spit instead of swallowing!

 

[MNK99]

Sorry if this is off-topic, I can move it:

Is there a huge difference between the nightguard I got from my dentist which was made specifically by the lab for me, and was like $416+ (lost it), and one from Amazon that's like $175? I really liked the nightguard I had, but I lost it almost immediately. I can see the dentist again later. I mean obviously there are major differences -- that was custom made by a dental lab, but even a cheap one should prevent grinding my teeth down. I need something - I had perfect teeth 8 years ago, then near perfect 3 yrs ago, then supposedly a ton of hairline fractures (and some caffeine/possibly nicotine stains). Now my teeth are maybe 7-8/10.

-I used really cheap mouthguards before while in martial arts - I could not wear them, I couldn't breathe through them.
-But a cheaper one that has a decent fit should be okay breathing wise and protect against grinding them down while sleeping, I think.

https://www.amazon.com/Professional...r=8-30-spons&keywords=night+mouth+guard&psc=1

https://www.amazon.com/Dental-Lab-M...r=8-29-spons&keywords=night+mouth+guard&psc=1

Maybe something super cheap until I go back to the dentist.

https://www.amazon.com/DentalCare-L...=1519672619&sr=8-4&keywords=night+mouth+guard

 

[Legna88]

The herbalist, Dr. Christopher, studied the dietary and health practice of the American Indians of the past, and claimed that some tribes were known to grow as many as five sets of new teeth in their lifetime...
in a seminar he mentioned a preparation that these tribes used an herbal concoction that included a process of extracting the calcium from egg shells.