Yura log

[manu]

I looked again how ARL recommends taking their supps. Like I said everything together 3 times a day with meal. So calcium, zinc, manganese, chromium, copper etc.. I mean how the body could absorb all those metals at once.. YOu add elements from the meal on top of that and you have crazy mix of everything + all that fiber cellulose that they recommend from veggies with each meal will just prevent absorption of most of that stuff.. How is that the best protocol for taking supps in 2025 I mean really.. So now I understand why they recommend so much zinc, chromium etc.. If you absorb even 1/10 it's probably to optimistic..

Do not over think that stuff. They have developed this for over 40 years. The family which is running ARL now does not want to change ANYTHING and I'm glad they handle it that way.
If you want the newer / updated protocol go to a practitioner eg Dr Wilson LOL... I strongly recommend against it.

 

[Yura]

I agree guys. I am just having hard times as I see my health state going to shit fast. So my head is going nuts again hehe. But I do have to think a little, because like I said I can't just order their supplements and follow protocol.. So I do wonder if I should take it like they recommend or like I think or we know it is more optimal life for example vit C on empty stomach. Zinc for sure not at the same time with manganese or copper etc.. Anyways that's at least 3 months from now.. Now I have to focus on survival and not fucking myself up even more lol..
Malic acid for flushes is here as well as artichoke extract and dandelion root extract. Will open the capsules and take during the meals. Hopefully it will get bile going..
Btw do you think guys serum retinol is any good indicator of vit A status in the body? I do wonder what is going on with that after 7 years of no retinol or high carotene sources.. They say it is needed for ceruloplasmin. I don't know if it's true or not..

 

[Aleksandr]

I agree guys. I am just having hard times as I see my health state going to shit fast. So my head is going nuts again hehe. But I do have to think a little, because like I said I can't just order their supplements and follow protocol.. So I do wonder if I should take it like they recommend or like I think or we know it is more optimal life for example vit C on empty stomach. Zinc for sure not at the same time with manganese or copper etc.. Anyways that's at least 3 months from now.. Now I have to focus on survival and not fucking myself up even more lol..
Malic acid for flushes is here as well as artichoke extract and dandelion root extract. Will open the capsules and take during the meals. Hopefully it will get bile going..
Btw do you think guys serum retinol is any good indicator of vit A status in the body? I do wonder what is going on with that after 7 years of no retinol or high carotene sources.. They say it is needed for ceruloplasmin. I don't know if it's true or not..

Why can't you just order the supps and follow the protocol and not change anything?

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[Yura]

I will look into it, but 80 euros for 1 bottle of simple multivitamin that lasts only 60 days is insane. That is like 800 euros at least for full protocol for 3-4 months. + shipping and customs cost from UK to CZ. No way I would pay that much. It would be like 1000 eur total are you kidding me? I could buy everything that is in those supplements for like 200 euros if I really want only top brands like life extension, jarrow etc.. I would rather do that and the other 800 spend on 2 week vacation in Croatia...

Not to mention when I have this? Basically everything I need heh..
Hm I wanted show photo of supplements that I have but even if I attack files it doesn't show I don't know why... So I have to use some website for that...

https://imgur.com/a/WUrHoEI

I don't know what to do now before my hair grows back and I will see the hair test. Should I take everything so chromium, manganese, molybdenum, copper as well etc.. Or drop everything B vitamins as well and keep just the herbs and malic acid for the liver and maybe magnesium, potassium and protein/amino acids..? THe second option is safer right.. To not fill my body with metals..

 

[Yura]

So I decided to stop everything but ecectrolytes, K2(becaues I am getting D3 from the sun otherwsie I would be taking it) malic acid, artichoke, dandelion, garlic extracts and maybe like 200-300mg of vit C in the morning and 100mcg of selenium and 1mg of iodine from lugol... For protein I will drop all single amino acids and keep only whey protein and hydrolyzed collagen. I was taking a lot of glycine, taurine, lysine. I just learned that they all can lower different amino acids. Like Lysine can lower arginine and that lowers NO etc.. Will see how I feel after couple of weeks of taking hardly anything basically.. My head will be more clear from all the thinking what to take that's for sure and I will keep all that stuff until I have hair test results and know exactly what to take..
Or should I keep something else or drop something?

 

[RebelWithACause]

Decent plan I think. I like taking as little as possible now. But at the worst I had to take insane amounts of stuff to even be normal-ish.

 

[Yura]

I feel like I am stuck and there is like 10 directions to go, but only 1 is the right one that will not cripple me for good... What is the chance that I will choose the right one... So I just stay on the same spot for a while lol..
But the problem is even if I don't take anything the diet alone if it's not the ideal one for me now can create issues. Just probably not that bad as taking pills that's true..

 

[RebelWithACause]

I feel like I am stuck and there is like 10 directions to go, but only 1 is the right one that will not cripple me for good... What is the chance that I will choose the right one... So I just stay on the same spot for a while lol..
But the problem is even if I don't take anything the diet alone if it's not the ideal one for me now can create issues. Just probably not that bad as taking pills that's true..

Sounds woo woo maybe but I am sure deep from the inside you know what is the right way to go. Just have to have some faith in it. It's still a long process even if you know what to do. I often second guessed and everytime I went for the "second guess" I made a mistake. I did this a few times and then I learned to listen to what I thought was correct. And looking back it was the right decision. Just gotta roll with those punches as well when you did make a mistake. And it was often very quickly corrected

But maybe for you it's different. I think a hair test is helpful too to get started.

 

[Yura]

"Just gotta roll with those punches as well when you did make a mistake. And it was often very quickly corrected"
Yeah it seems like I can't afford mistakes. Maybe 7 years ago. Not now with my serious cardiovascular/collagen issues. Yes I will do hair test. But I did haircut exactly the day I found that I could order ARL test from that Luke Pryor guy.. BTw my hair is crazy bad now. I don't know what I did wrong again, but I can pull hair so easily from my head lol. Like they are all dead.. That is another reason I am scared to take anything now. I could go bald within a month lol..

 

[Aleksandr]

I will look into it, but 80 euros for 1 bottle of simple multivitamin that lasts only 60 days is insane. That is like 800 euros at least for full protocol for 3-4 months. + shipping and customs cost from UK to CZ. No way I would pay that much. It would be like 1000 eur total are you kidding me? I could buy everything that is in those supplements for like 200 euros if I really want only top brands like life extension, jarrow etc.. I would rather do that and the other 800 spend on 2 week vacation in Croatia...

Not to mention when I have this? Basically everything I need heh..
Hm I wanted show photo of supplements that I have but even if I attack files it doesn't show I don't know why... So I have to use some website for that...

https://imgur.com/a/WUrHoEI

I don't know what to do now before my hair grows back and I will see the hair test. Should I take everything so chromium, manganese, molybdenum, copper as well etc.. Or drop everything B vitamins as well and keep just the herbs and malic acid for the liver and maybe magnesium, potassium and protein/amino acids..? THe second option is safer right.. To not fill my body with metals..

I thought you're unwell and getting better is your priority? I'd pay a fortune to get full health back

 

[Yura]

@Aleksandr yes I am unwell therefore I can barely work = make money. I was fortunate to be able to work whole last year. But now I have no income and I live from money that I saved when I worked. I have like 2500 euro left. You can imagine how stressful it is for me to think about the fact that if I run out of money and will not find easy enough job for me that I can do I am fucked. Then I really don't have to worry about any of that, because I would be happy if I don't end up homeless. Let alone doing some tests, buying supplements etc. I don't give a shit about money to buy stuff. All I give a shit last 10 years lets say is to get well. So I am exactly that person you are describing. I spend basically all my money on food or supplements. But it is not sustainable for me to use their supplements it is that simple. I could buy once cycle of their supplements, but I would be having so much stress that the would be no balancing/detoxing/healing happening anyways. Because i would have no money on anything else and counting days when I will run out of money completely losing my mind and hair and health overal form that stress.. If I learned something than it is the fact that high emotional stress will prevent the body from functioning at all and you can have all the tests and supplements you want. It is useless.. I experienced this many many times during my shit show joke of a life. So for now the idea that i will spend around lets say 2500-3000 euros just for year of supplement supply is completely unrealistic. I would rather took those money and go workaway somewhere next to the sea and live there for whole year. That would have much better chance of healing me than killing myself somewhere in factory/warehouse working night shifts so I can take in 3am with my dinner Endo Met supplement.. Yeah that will fix me for sure..

 

[RebelWithACause]

I feel you man. Sounds similar to my situation but I am not so bad anymore but still struggle sometimes with health. Does your country not have some support system for people with no job? If I could do it all over I'd do that and focus 100% on healing for at least 2 years. Try not to spend too much keep very simple lifestyle, buy some supportive supps and do that fulltime. I kept working and I think it made things slower for me.

ARL and TEI are nice but yes expensive especially if you financially struggle. Sometimes it did feel like a monetary system: get a new hairtest every 2 months, pay for different supps, etc. It probably isn't but I can't shake off the quack vibes surrounding it. Including some of the practitioners. One reason I did things myself and I think I did well. Not perfect but I think I made more progress in this time than ARL or TEI could offered me

 

[Yura]

I think there is a lot of people around the world who can't use their supplements, but still fix their issues with lets say local practitioner who simply puts similar dosages together with local supplements.. The key here is to not do the exact opposite of what you should do. Maintain ratios and the general direction. I find it hard to believe that having 2mg less there 2 mg more there or little different form is complete deal breaker and like you said. They are trying to make some money. Which is completely understandable. It's just I can' afford it now.. Otherwise I would love to support what they are doing.
Anyways lets just hope I have some hair lest before they make it to 2cm at least so I have something to test LOL..

 

[RebelWithACause]

I think there is a lot of people around the world who can't use their supplements, but still fix their issues with lets say local practitioner who simply puts similar dosages together with local supplements.. The key here is to not do the exact opposite of what you should do. Maintain ratios and the general direction. I find it hard to believe that having 2mg less there 2 mg more there or little different form is complete deal breaker and like you said. They are trying to make some money. Which is completely understandable. It's just I can' afford it now.. Otherwise I would love to support what they are doing.
Anyways lets just hope I have some hair lest before they make it to 2cm at least so I have something to test LOL..

The weird thing about the dosages is that I assume your body doesn't even absorb all of it. I guess they tested different ratios and saw differences on hairtests. So maybe the body does. But to me it sounds kinda crazy. I did notice differences in the sense that if you take a lot the effect is stronger and sometimes too strong (it imbalances too much and this also slows detoxification because your metabolism doesnt lift as high) and vice versa. And if your Na/K gets too low if I take something that raises it yes I feel better while taking it. Like zinc and manganese as an example.

That being said their testing goes very deep, way deeper than I understand. But this is why I look at practical results - how someone looks, acts, talks, what the person is able to do in life, etc. I have watched a lot of different people who did/do their protocol. Not saying their results are bad. Some people really changed their lives for the better. But I find from the outside looking in their results are not insane or some crazy health protocol. They just stabilised and improved their condition. That is a great result though if you really suffer like you do now.

For example I remember this guy who did ARL and he was fat/obese and he did it for 8 years and all his ratios were better and he did feel better. Clearly fixed big issues. But also still huge metabolic issues. He had a moon face and was fat still. And I saw a few people like that who just didn't look healthy even after doing it for a few years.

That being said I think if you are really bad doing ARL for 2-3 years is a good way to stabilise and fix big issues. Just long term I am not sure.

 

[Yura]

"The weird thing about the dosages is that I assume your body doesn't even absorb all of it."
But that is what I was saying. Also don't forget they say take everything with meal. You think you will absorb the same amount of minerals if you take them with lets say meat+white rice meal versus meal of brown rice, beans and a lot of vegetables(like they recommend)? No way all that phytic acid, oxalates, lectins will bind a lot of those minerals.. Not to mention many elements are absorbed at the same door lets say. So what comes to that door first anything else behind it can't get in..
So I think there could be huge differences between in how the protocol works just by what you eat. Or what is going on in your life in that moment etc.. So to think it is perfect and you absolutely have to have thier supplements and do exactly what they say to do otherwise it will not work is BS. I mean many people take just % of the protocol because they can't handle it for example. Like they have no idea what is going on in their body. They have no idea if the person has completely blocked bile flow for example and can't detox. In that case taking stuff like 150mg of zinc, 50mg of manganese etc.. really? Someone can handle it easy, Someone can end up really bad.. Now something completely different if you work with some good practitioner who does blood work with you as well all the time. Monitors everything etc.. But just blidly take a program based on minerals in hair.. We know that some people can't even handle 10mg of zinc. Like do you think that person will keep taking 100mg? Makes no sense. Does it mean that it will not work if that person will take 10% of the protocol and slowly increase? I don't think so. It is very reasonable.. So this "don't think and just take it" I am not so sure about that. Especially in people who are already with one leg in the grave.. But I can see how healthy person with healthy organs and cardiovascular system can probably take whatever with no issues..

 

[manu]

I was in a similar state. Financially struggling and cognitively struggling. My memory was so shitty constant brainfog, very low energy levels and I had to finish my studies and work part time.
I tried so much stuff until I found Gbolduev and I basically put all my money into ARL program and it fixed me in terms of brain fog memory and depression and energy levels.
It was a huge weight going of my shoulders...
From my observation the mental stuff gets fixed first on the program. And overall energy levels. I have seen it in other people as well.

So I will say if your issues are mostly cognitively/energy levels and you can afford at least ~6x cycles (3months each).
Then I would go all in. It's a good bet.
You will make your money back by holding to a job easily.
But by god do not use a practitioner.

Otherwise I would recommend against it.
In terms of veins - ARL did only help a little bit

 

[Yura]

No I don't have mental issues and if I do because my physical health is bad so I can't function like normal person. So I would say it is perfectly normal to not feel happy, when you can't do what you want. Which is live normal life basically. Work, do sports that I like, travel, whatever.. I had crazy issues when I was a kid and later in my teens I think due to severe hypothyroidsm, mercury toxicity, low selenium, iodine, zinc maybe also due to still eating gluten and dairy. My gut was fucked up, Had crazy inflammation etc.. I fixed all that for the most part. Now my issues are physically fucked up body..

 

[manu]

I feel you. I hope you find a route to get better.
It's a labyrinth... I hope hair test can give you some orientation. Good luck!

 

[Aleksandr]

The weird thing about the dosages is that I assume your body doesn't even absorb all of it. I guess they tested different ratios and saw differences on hairtests. So maybe the body does. But to me it sounds kinda crazy. I did notice differences in the sense that if you take a lot the effect is stronger and sometimes too strong (it imbalances too much and this also slows detoxification because your metabolism doesnt lift as high) and vice versa. And if your Na/K gets too low if I take something that raises it yes I feel better while taking it. Like zinc and manganese as an example.

That being said their testing goes very deep, way deeper than I understand. But this is why I look at practical results - how someone looks, acts, talks, what the person is able to do in life, etc. I have watched a lot of different people who did/do their protocol. Not saying their results are bad. Some people really changed their lives for the better. But I find from the outside looking in their results are not insane or some crazy health protocol. They just stabilised and improved their condition. That is a great result though if you really suffer like you do now.

For example I remember this guy who did ARL and he was fat/obese and he did it for 8 years and all his ratios were better and he did feel better. Clearly fixed big issues. But also still huge metabolic issues. He had a moon face and was fat still. And I saw a few people like that who just didn't look healthy even after doing it for a few years.

That being said I think if you are really bad doing ARL for 2-3 years is a good way to stabilise and fix big issues. Just long term I am not sure.

With the weight gain that's also one of those things, was he eating a tone of thyroid-tanking veggies and not exercising (aka dr Wilson approach)? Many ways to do this

 

[Aleksandr]

The weird thing about the dosages is that I assume your body doesn't even absorb all of it. I guess they tested different ratios and saw differences on hairtests. So maybe the body does. But to me it sounds kinda crazy. I did notice differences in the sense that if you take a lot the effect is stronger and sometimes too strong (it imbalances too much and this also slows detoxification because your metabolism doesnt lift as high) and vice versa. And if your Na/K gets too low if I take something that raises it yes I feel better while taking it. Like zinc and manganese as an example.

That being said their testing goes very deep, way deeper than I understand. But this is why I look at practical results - how someone looks, acts, talks, what the person is able to do in life, etc. I have watched a lot of different people who did/do their protocol. Not saying their results are bad. Some people really changed their lives for the better. But I find from the outside looking in their results are not insane or some crazy health protocol. They just stabilised and improved their condition. That is a great result though if you really suffer like you do now.

For example I remember this guy who did ARL and he was fat/obese and he did it for 8 years and all his ratios were better and he did feel better. Clearly fixed big issues. But also still huge metabolic issues. He had a moon face and was fat still. And I saw a few people like that who just didn't look healthy even after doing it for a few years.

That being said I think if you are really bad doing ARL for 2-3 years is a good way to stabilise and fix big issues. Just long term I am not sure.

With the weight gain that's also one of those things, was he eating a tone of thyroid-taking veggies and not exercising (aka dr Wilson approach)? M

"The weird thing about the dosages is that I assume your body doesn't even absorb all of it."
But that is what I was saying. Also don't forget they say take everything with meal. You think you will absorb the same amount of minerals if you take them with lets say meat+white rice meal versus meal of brown rice, beans and a lot of vegetables(like they recommend)? No way all that phytic acid, oxalates, lectins will bind a lot of those minerals.. Not to mention many elements are absorbed at the same door lets say. So what comes to that door first anything else behind it can't get in..
So I think there could be huge differences between in how the protocol works just by what you eat. Or what is going on in your life in that moment etc.. So to think it is perfect and you absolutely have to have thier supplements and do exactly what they say to do otherwise it will not work is BS. I mean many people take just % of the protocol because they can't handle it for example. Like they have no idea what is going on in their body. They have no idea if the person has completely blocked bile flow for example and can't detox. In that case taking stuff like 150mg of zinc, 50mg of manganese etc.. really? Someone can handle it easy, Someone can end up really bad.. Now something completely different if you work with some good practitioner who does blood work with you as well all the time. Monitors everything etc.. But just blidly take a program based on minerals in hair.. We know that some people can't even handle 10mg of zinc. Like do you think that person will keep taking 100mg? Makes no sense. Does it mean that it will not work if that person will take 10% of the protocol and slowly increase? I don't think so. It is very reasonable.. So this "don't think and just take it" I am not so sure about that. Especially in people who are already with one leg in the grave.. But I can see how healthy person with healthy organs and cardiovascular system can probably take whatever with no issues..

Yes they say that in the hair test too, usually recommend sups 3x a day but say if you can't tolerate just do once or twice a day, as much as you can.

I think you can fix yourself. It's just as soon as you deviate from their plan whenever you make a decision you risk fucking it up somehow. So im going to follow it as closely as possible. It does cost a fortune, but I'll give it a year or two and see if i feel improvements.

It's also annoying for me being in Aus. When I order the hair test, send it off, wait for results, buy supps, get them shipped here, it's already been a month lol. So every 4 months retest is as fast as I can do pretty much.