ZINC FINGER THEORY DISCUSSION for PFS - 2 cases

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wuf said:
Congrats!
Could you write the protocol you followed to get at the point you are?
Thanks
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yeah, it's coming my man, just want to do it right when I get some time later this week. of course, everything is on this website, I just want to put what worked for me and the steps that I think were most important, just because I know how important these success stories are in this community. detailing my timeline could maybe shed some light on when to take things as well. remember guys, everything is here! you just gotta know whether cortisol is up or down, I think that was really the only factor that will be different for everyone before the cascade can happen. luckily we know how to gauge this.
 
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Rid said:
today I was feeling similarly great, I'm probably exactly in your situation scenes. I'm still not 100% stable, my sexual health could be a little better but that's always the last thing to get 100 for most. still at a point where I enjoy sex and my erections are fine, but just not 100.

otherwise, everything is back to pre pfs. my body odor has really kicked up a notch lately, completely forgot what it was like to smell like a man. and jesus, it's fully back. my confidence in all aspects is back too, it's really amazing how much feeling like **** on the regular becomes an accustomed thing, makes you really appreciative when you climb out of that hell hole. one thing that's interesting is that my face is now red/inflamed and I run more on the hot side just like before PFS. additionally, along with body odor, more acne has shown up, but it's mostly diet related it seems. anyone got an answer for the extra acne and redness? I definitely see these as positive symptoms in regards to getting back my old homeostasis, but they're still kind of bothersome (inflammation/heat/acne.) my skin and hair were damn nice in PFS state but obviously I'll trade that for the confidence alone, not to mention the other host of sides.

I'm almost there, I can "lose balance" a bit, drink, stay up late, eat bad, stress, etc, without crashing, but I still feel shitty (as I should) and I don't think it's to our benefit to ever go back to our old unbalanced ways. I think it's erroneous to ever assume we will be cured. we will simply recover to a pre-PFS state, but there are many levels to this thing. we are susceptible, and as you know wuf: you (and all of us) can lose balance easier than others. even if you have recovered in the past.

assume we are in remission, rather than cured. we have to keep up with our lifestyle changes for this stuff to stick forever, which I have no problem with. I felt pretty shitty on the regular even before PFS, but that was a direct result of my unbalanced lifestyle that I know many of you have had aswell.

be well peeps.
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What is your treatment?
 
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Rid said:
yeah, it's coming my man, just want to do it right when I get some time later this week. of course, everything is on this website, I just want to put what worked for me and the steps that I think were most important, just because I know how important these success stories are in this community. detailing my timeline could maybe shed some light on when to take things as well. remember guys, everything is here! you just gotta know whether cortisol is up or down, I think that was really the only factor that will be different for everyone before the cascade can happen. luckily we know how to gauge this.
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Congratulations mate. Really happy for you!

Thanks for the offer to post what worked for you. I know what you mean about everything being here on the website, but as someone still figuring out what exactly to do, it's really gratifying to see success stories. Being in a dark place as a lot of us are, it really helps to read about what's worked for other people.

Looking forward to your update, when you get the time.

And congratulations once again!
 
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@gbolduev Since there is some difference between PFS and PSSD could you suggest us with PSSD what can we try to make ourselves better? Should we go along the zinc protocol route? Try the protocol you gave to Scenes? Or something else?

I'm taking l-Hisitidine 750mg a day, and I get some emotions back and feel more "normal" (pre-PSSD) for about one hour whenever I take it... I don't know what to add next, how to make it stick...
 
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@DoIt did your improvement with anhedonia due to Moclobemide persist?
 
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DoIt said:
@gbolduev Since there is some difference between PFS and PSSD could you suggest us with PSSD what can we try to make ourselves better? Should we go along the zinc protocol route? Try the protocol you gave to Scenes? Or something else?

I'm taking l-Hisitidine 750mg a day, and I get some emotions back and feel more "normal" (pre-PSSD) for about one hour whenever I take it... I don't know what to add next, how to make it stick...
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Protocols that people follow are all written out . Ask scenes or Tubzy what they are doing , or read their logs
 
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gbolduev said:
Protocols that people follow are all written out . Ask scenes or Tubzy what they are doing , or read their logs
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I saw their protocols but I also saw that you had a little different assumption for PSSD cause. So basically, it's all about zinc finger and electrolytes.

Can someone explain why are lysine and glycine part of the protocol, what is their function?
 
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TubZy said:
Are you talking about just in reference to GHK-CU?
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I'm trying to figure out why are glycine and lysine part of the protocol. I now see that they both are a part of GHK-CU that you mention, is GHK-CU a part of the protocol? I see you mention it a lot but i don't know what it does.
 
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Rid said:
yeah, it's coming my man, just want to do it right when I get some time later this week. of course, everything is on this website, I just want to put what worked for me and the steps that I think were most important, just because I know how important these success stories are in this community. detailing my timeline could maybe shed some light on when to take things as well. remember guys, everything is here! you just gotta know whether cortisol is up or down, I think that was really the only factor that will be different for everyone before the cascade can happen. luckily we know how to gauge this.
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Yo man.
Waiting for your protocol, can't even sleep at night...only thinking about that! LOL))
 
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Steve said:
Agree let’s see it rid, got to give back to the community like all the others who have recovered did @Rid
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whoa there buddy, firstly, I'm not recovered, I'm simply making consistent progress. it's still way too early too tell. secondly, everything I've done is here ON THIS VERY WEBSITE.

it's no wonder gbold has nearly given up on these forums, the cure is said so many times but people still can't get it through their heads lol. please be smart guys and learn to read and interpret what is right in front of your face. I know it's hard when you're in hell, but you have to keep pushing. you will not recover if you expect recovery to be spoon fed to you. I've spent hundreds on top of hundreds of hours researching, interpreting and connecting things that have lead me here. gbold is putting it together, and I will put together what has worked for me, but I'm still hesitant as just last night I had a bad reaction to 5htp that was in my sleeping aid, but I seem to be bouncing back quickly.
 
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Rid said:
whoa there buddy, firstly, I'm not recovered, I'm simply making consistent progress. it's still way too early too tell. secondly, everything I've done is here ON THIS VERY WEBSITE.

it's no wonder gbold has nearly given up on these forums, the cure is said so many times but people still can't get it through their heads lol. please be smart guys and learn to read and interpret what is right in front of your face. I know it's hard when you're in hell, but you have to keep pushing. you will not recover if you expect recovery to be spoon fed to you. I've spent hundreds on top of hundreds of hours researching, interpreting and connecting things that have lead me here. gbold is putting it together, and I will put together what has worked for me, but I'm still hesitant as just last night I had a bad reaction to 5htp that was in my sleeping aid, but I seem to be bouncing back quickly.
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Don't take 5htp. Follow health protocol, and your serotonin will convert to melatonin. Dont increase serotonin on its own
 
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gbolduev said:
Don't take 5htp. Follow health protocol, and your serotonin will convert to melatonin. Dont increase serotonin on its own
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i honestly didn't think 5htp did anything significant, I just wanted time release melatonin and it happened to have 5htp, unbeknownst to me. it nearly gave me a damn anxiety attack, I hear it causes issues with those on ssri's- sometimes fatal. any dots that can be connected from such a bad reaction so quickly? would low serotonin explain this / my premature e? I had absolutely no clue what 5htp even did.
 
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