Mitchell08 PFS Log

wuf

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Alright.. way to go @wuf in deleting one of your posts above. Hence making me look like a dick. Cool man.

LOL I'll say what I want. I'm fasting today and you pissed me off with a deleted comment above.

As I learned from @Orion - when you fast DNA expresses and you get a bit angry over things. I'm searching for another word. But @wuf you never answered me... what have you even tried lately? What kind of GBOLD friendly tactics have you even attempted.

Keep whining and then deleting posts and telling me not to joke with my friend @M_Mitchell08 . We can't LOL at the fact he legit recovers for a few days after alcohol. Its an interesting thing to say the least.
Man, I deleted it before I even saw your reply.
Said this if you’re nervous cause you didn’t eat keep fighting with somebody else since I’m focused on much higher things instead fighting.
I’m driving my car at the moment, going to as deer you asap as I will be more free.
Cheers
 

wuf

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Alright.. way to go @wuf in deleting one of your posts above. Hence making me look like a dick. Cool man.

LOL I'll say what I want. I'm fasting today and you pissed me off with a deleted comment above.

As I learned from @Orion - when you fast DNA expresses and you get a bit angry over things. I'm searching for another word. But @wuf you never answered me... what have you even tried lately? What kind of GBOLD friendly tactics have you even attempted.

Keep whining and then deleting posts and telling me not to joke with my friend @M_Mitchell08 . We can't LOL at the fact he legit recovers for a few days after alcohol. Its an interesting thing to say the least.
I wrote to don’t laugh cause I though you were laughing about my issue, then as I understood it was about Mitchell I then delete it. Come on,keep it cool.. not here to fight, you should know it.
By the way, I didn’t try anything gbold advises since I know what PFS is and I think I am out of PFS and I have another type of imbalance at the moment, plus I have UC which makes my situation even more difficult since I can’t eat all I want and have easily blood.
I will try the detox way, but for example it is dangerous for me to drink veggie and fruit juice since I will for sure bleeding..
 

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Another weekend of drinking and it felt super normal. I don’t understand how or why the days following are the best I feel? @Helen any thoughts at all, sorry I know I’ve been all over the place. I’m able to take naps and everything, where typically I just have insomina and can’t sleep.

Ive seen this in post ssri people too. To be honest, last week I went to my neighbor birthday and I drank some alcohol, I had a little window of improved mental state. I will try to reproduce it to see if it was the alcohol for me or just a random window.
 

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Alcohol kills B1. B1 makes acetylcholine. I would assume high acetylcholine causes serotonin deficiency since acetylcholine is broken down by tryptophan. or high acetylcholine could cause tyrosine or histidine deficiencies also. Since acetylcholinesterase is made of tyrosine tryptophan histidine and serine. So increase of acetylcholine will cause the pressure on these.

I actually think that when people use SSRI, they dont really use it increase serotonin but to decrease acetylcholine.

So if by drinking you lower acetylcholine, then this lowers the pressure of tryptophan and tyrosine to break it down. And this increases serotonin and you sleep.
 

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Also, it depends what you drink, if you drink beer, then it is a different story , since beer actually has tons of b vitamins and estrogenic, And estrogenic stuff makes people here feel better. those are 2 explanations I can come up with
 

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Ive seen this in post ssri people too. To be honest, last week I went to my neighbor birthday and I drank some alcohol, I had a little window of improved mental state. I will try to reproduce it to see if it was the alcohol for me or just a random window.

Literally the only time I had near complete (but temporary) reversal of sexual symptoms was after drinking a lot and skipping a night of sleep at a festival. I also magically didn't get a hangover, was just super tired from not sleeping.
 
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I’ve had this too, i think skipping sleep increases tyrosine hydroxlase leading to more dopamine
 

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Literally the only time I had near complete (but temporary) reversal of sexual symptoms was after drinking a lot and skipping a night of sleep at a festival. I also magically didn't get a hangover, was just super tired from not sleeping.

Unfortunately only my mental state was affected for some days. But I read of other people reporting the same as you, specially the no hangover or drunk part.
 

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Also, it depends what you drink, if you drink beer, then it is a different story , since beer actually has tons of b vitamins and estrogenic, And estrogenic stuff makes people here feel better. those are 2 explanations I can come up with

Was caipirinha, brazilian cocktail
 

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I've heard of this...
Maybe that's why I didn't get hangovers
For like 3-5 yrs of drinking. I thought I just had a high tolerance (I did, could down a bottle of vodka - it was bad). And workout or take care of school the next day (it was hard, but not really hungover). For a couple yrs at least after Effexor. And def felt I could drink crazy Amts on it and sometimes got very sick. I think only in mid to late 20s did I get hangovers. Lots of men in my family have drank for yrs. Terrible habit. I'm glad to have quit it tho I did quit it many times. I hate not feeling in control. I think in my case it was high tolerance and addictive personality and pssd and others.

I do remember distinctly feeling more "normal" after a few drinks... But that could have been purely addiction too. These drugs are hell. Literally no one I know has good things to say about antidepressants nor fin that much (80% have worse hair than me and I lost like 70% of my hair).

I'm sure tolerance is lower now but baseline increases rapidly for me, I won't chance it. Been like 150 days.
 

M_Mitchell08

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Ive seen this in post ssri people too. To be honest, last week I went to my neighbor birthday and I drank some alcohol, I had a little window of improved mental state. I will try to reproduce it to see if it was the alcohol for me or just a random window.

I’d be curious to see, but bet it’s the alcohol.
 

wuf

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No he abused substances like alcohol and drugs for a short time period thinking his life was ruined. And he had a bounce back with major improvements. He was shocked.

Look up username “cap” on propeciahelp. It’s not hard.

I was in bed for 7 months. I’ve read every single recovery story or major progress story. I’ve informed myself. If you really cared and your life was truly destroyed you’d have done the same thing I’ve done. You’d know “cap’s” story.

But you haven’t and you don’t.
So, I have read Cap's story in propeciahelp.com.... I don't get why you had so much attention to his story?
 

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I didn't pay so much attention to it. I learned from it.

The dude was hit from PFS really badly with suicidal depression and bad symptoms sexual etc. He was getting worse as year 1 went on then went and abused a bunch of substances. A few weeks later he starts feeling a lot better. "Depression gone, feel pretty much normal" to paraphrase him at the time.

I spoke to him a couple years after he wrote that and he was doing great. Wasn't 100%, but said he was really getting there and just needs to stay disciplined.

I find it significant.
 
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wuf

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I didn't pay so much attention to it. I learned from it.

The dude was hit from PFS really badly with suicidal depression and bad symptoms sexual etc. He was getting worse as year 1 went on then went and abused a bunch of substances. A few weeks later he starts feeling a lot better. "Depression gone, feel pretty much normal" to paraphrase him at the time.

I spoke to him a couple years after he wrote that and he was doing great. Wasn't 100%, but said he was really getting there and just needs to stay disciplined.

I find it significant.
I read his story but I didn’t get to that point. I think the story got interrupted at one point where he is feeling ups and downs.. where did you get the story longer?
I mean I didn’t read what he did to get better, did he do any protocol?
 

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I read his story but I didn’t get to that point. I think the story got interrupted at one point where he is feeling ups and downs.. where did you get the story longer?
I mean I didn’t read what he did to get better, did he do any protocol?

Looks like he tried things here and there, like prog. cream, t bosters, minerals, herbs, then he abused alcohol and "substances"(I wonder what substances were used)
 

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Probably opiates or cocaine. Drugs of choice.
I've gone to school fucked up tons of times, did well at times too... on and after effexor (and before finasteride).
Just shows, if you recover... and even abuse yourself a bit (not too much!), you can be ok. I didn't read this story/ just saying.

Obviously don't do drugs nor drink nor smoke. Even if you're functional, going to work/school like that looks bad.