Goose PFS (Saw palmetto) log- TEI

[Goose12]

Update:

Since starting my second round of tei my digestion has slowly gotten worse. To the point of getting back to where it was when I first crashed. Last Friday my stomach pain was so bad I fell to the floor and just layed there in misery. I finally forced my self to puke to relieve the pressure and the pain slowly subsided. For some reason the tei supps had completely stopped my digestion.

I have been off the supps for a week and my digestion has returned to normal and my baseline is higher than ever. I felt almost cured yesterday morning.

I plan on starting the supps again monday and the plan is to get retested at the end of september. Maybe the hair test will give me an idea of what was going on with me on friday. Detox?

The hardest part right now is trying to be patient and not do anything stupid. I keep playing with the idea of jumping on r andro and 4 andro, but I know I need to stick it out with tei.

Labido was around 40% yesterday wich was great. My only other issue right now is my morning wood has been really inconsistent latley. But morning wood never seemed to be a good indicator of my progress for me.

 

[HerrFisch]

Don’t understand why pfs guys are always so keen on daily morning wood.
It’s not normal to have it daily. And therefore it shouldn’t be taken as an indicator.

Imo if you had morning wood ever day and over the top libido before pfs, then you were not normal before. Don’t strive for that.

 

[Admiral]

My digestion has been awful on my second cycle as well. Occasional bloating, stomach cramps, awful farts, lose stools. Just get through it. I figure it will be better once I've finished or when I am on another cycle.

Nothing stops me from continuing ARL. You have to ride out the hard parts.

 

[Goose12]

My digestion has been awful on my second cycle as well. Occasional bloating, stomach cramps, awful farts, lose stools. Just get through it. I figure it will be better once I've finished or when I am on another cycle.

Nothing stops me from continuing ARL. You have to ride out the hard parts.

I agree with but the pain was rediculous. My digestion completely stopped. The pain was so bad I was drenched in sweat.

When I start back up again I am going to be really careful on what I eat and only use betaine HCL with high protein meals. Betaine sets my stomach on fire unless I have at least 30 grams of whey protein with it.

Wish I could snap my fingers and 2 months of tei be over because I can really see the end in sight. Hope I dont jinx my self.

 

[hairsuit]

I agree with but the pain was rediculous. My digestion completely stopped. The pain was so bad I was drenched in sweat.

When I start back up again I am going to be really careful on what I eat and only use betaine HCL with high protein meals. Betaine sets my stomach on fire unless I have at least 30 grams of whey protein with it.

Wish I could snap my fingers and 2 months of tei be over because I can really see the end in sight. Hope I dont jinx my self.

Same boat right now. Week in on second cycle and extreme diarrhea. All about the long haul. But I always get that thought in the back of my mind that maybe something I’m taking is messing me up

 

[bruschi11]

I agree with but the pain was rediculous. My digestion completely stopped. The pain was so bad I was drenched in sweat.

When I start back up again I am going to be really careful on what I eat and only use betaine HCL with high protein meals. Betaine sets my stomach on fire unless I have at least 30 grams of whey protein with it.

Wish I could snap my fingers and 2 months of tei be over because I can really see the end in sight. Hope I dont jinx my self.

Maybe just remove betaine HCL? Maybe stomach acid is is in such good place now that you don’t need anymore.

Betaine HCL I had to remove on my tei run a couple weeks ago. Too constipated. Just used dig enzymes, bile acids.

 

[Goose12]

Maybe just remove betaine HCL? Maybe stomach acid is is in such good place now that you don’t need anymore.

Betaine HCL I had to remove on my tei run a couple weeks ago. Too constipated. Just used dig enzymes, bile acids.

I did stop using it a week before but I almost wonder if I should if kept using it so it would help my digestion while tei slowed it down.

I have been taking TUDCA and germanium with it. Germanium wasn't on my supp list from tei but they recommended it to help lower arsenic. I started it a week or two after tei and I wondered if it wasn't a big cause of my detox reaction.

 

[bruschi11]

I did stop using it a week before but I almost wonder if I should if kept using it so it would help my digestion while tei slowed it down.

I have been taking TUDCA and germanium with it. Germanium wasn't on my supp list from tei but they recommended it to help lower arsenic. I started it a week or two after tei and I wondered if it wasn't a big cause of my detox reaction.

I’m hearing germanium a lot lately. Mine is depleted.

Maybe it was cause of your big detox reaction. Makes sense.

 

[Goose12]

Same boat right now. Week in on second cycle and extreme diarrhea. All about the long haul. But I always get that thought in the back of my mind that maybe something I’m taking is messing me up

I think @Admiral is right we need to stick it out no matter what, but if it becomes unlivabe I don't see anything wrong with a week or two break and starting again. The snap backs can be encouraging.

 

[Goose12]

I’m hearing germanium a lot lately. Mine is depleted.

Maybe it was cause of your big detox reaction. Makes sense.

If yours is depleted like mine was you should give it a try.

 

[MNK99]

@Goose12, "The hardest part right now is trying to be patient and not do anything stupid. I keep playing with the idea of jumping on r andro and 4 andro, but I know I need to stick it out with tei."

I relate man. ... EV1 even guys doing welll are trying other things, bc lets face it.... we're all impatient. as we discussed mate.

I think when I do tei / arl... I just gotta keep in mind, everything else was done spaced out the last 230 days for me, so cannot fuck it up, and keep this by itself too.

My sex drive like 30-60% or 70% sometimes (abstaining rite now on purpose and also, need to focus). AND it's ok and all but 2-5 or more issues remaining.... I just want em gone. BUT screw it, need to wait to get good things in life ... everything worth achieving is worth fighting for. You know this man!!!!!!!!
-SOMEITMES more. Higher, but not like 80-90% of best health ever, but more like 80% of pretty good. I dont know how to rank these things....

Sorry for digestion problems. That is not something i look fwd to. CAATHERINE (TODAY. I cant read that rite now) and also GIRL FROM CANADA VERSION wrote me back.

You'll be fine over time man, maybe drop and restart ? I'll reread your log a bit. NO HCl in the supps? I guess digestion got bad from a lot of behind the scenes processes. Or maybe natural processes are turning back on, and then this causes issues --- adjustment takes time.

 

[bruschi11]

If yours is depleted like mine was you should give it a try.

Yup that or eat a ton of germanium rich foods. Will prob try both coming up. I have a list of foods from naturalist for each mineral.

 

[bruschi11]

I think @Admiral is right we need to stick it out no matter what, but if it becomes unlivabe I don't see anything wrong with a week or two break and starting again. The snap backs can be encouraging.

I think we need to stick to it. But not to exacts in all cases.

I thInk some guys do better takings supps every 3rd day. Some guys do better taking supps for 10-30 days then stop and see where body goes. Some do great while on supplements at all times 3 times a day.

But one thing I got from @Helen when I initially started learning his ideas. To paraphrase him “I take multivitamin once a week and don’t take supps at all.”

I think we need to look at ARL / TEI as a multivitamin for your respective oxidation. And People do better differently in terms of frequency taking them.

 

[MNK99]

NOTHING is nothing, but a TOOL.
Fasting, running, ARL, journalling, ,meditation, your plan, all just a tool. A means to an end. BUT ALSO A LIFESTYLE if you want. YOU KNOW IT MAN --- you're doing really well.

 

[Aflac94]

Yup that or eat a ton of germanium rich foods. Will prob try both coming up. I have a list of foods from naturalist for each mineral.

Could you post that list when you have time if you think it’s useful

 

[bruschi11]

Could you post that list when you have time if you think it’s useful

Yes if I remember when I get cell phone working again. I’m about to lose it on Apple.

I waited hour at sprint, 1.5 hours at appple last night. Still broken and no way of fixing it. I’m sooooooooooooo angry.

 

[MNK99]

Genius bar... I THREW MY CAPPUCINO AT A GUY THERE.

 

[Olski69]

Update:

Since starting my second round of tei my digestion has slowly gotten worse. To the point of getting back to where it was when I first crashed. Last Friday my stomach pain was so bad I fell to the floor and just layed there in misery. I finally forced my self to puke to relieve the pressure and the pain slowly subsided. For some reason the tei supps had completely stopped my digestion.

I have been off the supps for a week and my digestion has returned to normal and my baseline is higher than ever. I felt almost cured yesterday morning.

I plan on starting the supps again monday and the plan is to get retested at the end of september. Maybe the hair test will give me an idea of what was going on with me on friday. Detox?

The hardest part right now is trying to be patient and not do anything stupid. I keep playing with the idea of jumping on r andro and 4 andro, but I know I need to stick it out with tei.

Labido was around 40% yesterday wich was great. My only other issue right now is my morning wood has been really inconsistent latley. But morning wood never seemed to be a good indicator of my progress for me.

Hey Goose, Hope you are doing better.

Just reading your thread and saw this. Im on the supps at the moment but had to leave out the glandulars. I tried to stick with them but like you they messed up my digestion really badly. It crashed me hard.

I could have stuck with it if it wasnt for the fact it bloated me to the point where I actually looked pregnant? Very uncomfortable. Is this normal?

 

[Goose12]

Hey Goose, Hope you are doing better.

Just reading your thread and saw this. Im on the supps at the moment but had to leave out the glandulars. I tried to stick with them but like you they messed up my digestion really badly. It crashed me hard.

I could have stuck with it if it wasnt for the fact it bloated me to the point where I actually looked pregnant? Very uncomfortable. Is this normal?

It does seam to be normal. I got extremely bloated from the supps also. I think you should stick with the glandulars that tei recommends but like @bruschi11 mentions reduce the frequency of taking them until you can mange it and as you get better you can increase the frequency. Example would be once a day, every other day, or a few times a week.

 

[TubZy]

Yes, my digestion was very bad end of second cycle as well