Help me. Post finasteride sindrome and all sintomns

[MNK99]

-It's fine... listen, no one has all the answers. It's not like if someone does this process like person A or unlike Person A, or Person X, Y, Z (respectively),that similar results are guaranteed.
- It's just about gradually - detoxing, putting self in a better more optimal state, then fine tuning, till cured and optimal health. It takes way longer than 5 days, a week, a month, etc.

 

[Pedro melo]

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-It's fine... listen, no one has all the answers. It's not like if someone does this process like person A or unlike Person A, or Person X, Y, Z (respectively),that similar results are guaranteed.
- It's just about gradually - detoxing, putting self in a better more optimal state, then fine tuning, till cured and optimal health. It takes way longer than 5 days, a week, a month, etc.

Yeah I know... Now let me do the refers and see how things go... Probably I'll check.in on the hospital next week. I'll try to fake I'm taking the meds...hope o can do it

 

[Pedro melo]

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The good thing is... I'll be able to reapeat exams ( maybe ask for other variations) and see how my hronobal tests are so, I after that I wanted some orientation on what to do. If I am case 1 or 2 and what path should I go

 

[Dhair]

#14
The good thing is... I'll be able to reapeat exams ( maybe ask for other variations) and see how my hronobal tests are so, I after that I wanted some orientation on what to do. If I am case 1 or 2 and what path should I go

I don't understand .... Why are you being admitted to the hospital? Are you suicidal?

 

[MNK99]

---I don't think he is... But I do think his parents are not understanding and are kind of forcing him to go, because they think "Doctors know best."
---Probably just the minor emerg or emerg room... but not... a "true emergency". It's difficult to change people's thinking tho. @Pedro melo any update on that?
---Pedro you may have some tests right... there may be some way out of this, I am not sure... but worst case... just don't take the meds, let us know what they are, if they prescribe them. If they make you take one, probably not a huge deal.
--- It's unfortunate no med professionals actually know about this syndrome.... barely any at least. Let alone PSSD and PAS... and if they do , they seldom admit it.
--- Pedro, put this out there, bc I really honestly do not know what to do in that case. I avoided it... but could have possibly used something back then... or at least lithium
orotate. NOT during fast but before,... when I couldn't fast. ---> and was anxious and depressed non stop. Also, some others here may have an idea.... what to do.

 

[Dhair]

---I don't think he is... But I do think his parents are not understanding and are kind of forcing him to go, because they think "Doctors know best."

If he's a grown man, how can he be forcefully admitted to a psych ward? Most psych wards won't touch you unless you're straight up suicidal/homicidal/psychotic. Maybe it's different in other countries, I don't know. I would stay away from the parents if they are anything less than supportive...

 

[Pedro melo]

Ye

I don't understand .... Why are you being admitted to the hospital? Are you suicidal?

s... Suiciidal thoughts. Crying all the time. Looking Mike a zombie ( Aldo bevause of fasting) still i think might help at leaat ill look to life with another perspective... Probably I won't take the medicine. I'll quikly take finasteride again.
I'm doing this also for my parents. So they can rest a few days frome me. Sounds stupid I know but everyone can't look at me anymore like this

 

[Pedro melo]

If he's a grown man, how can he be forcefully admitted to a psych ward? Most psych wards won't touch you unless you're straight up suicidal/homicidal/psychotic. Maybe it's different in other countries, I don't know. I would stay away from the parents if they are anything less than supportive...

Yes its like that... I was living in China having my own life. Bit now... I'm just a stupid baby cruikg all the time, losing GF and my parents noe about the syndrome, but also are scared that I do something stupid. O can't abandoned them

 

[Pedro melo]

Just to update... Not sure if thisbfast made me diabétic... NY mouth isbsuoer super dry ..I'm beginning to have infections in my mouth I never had this...feeling very weak full of cramps and lost my sleep and morning wood. Somehig I had before... This Is a new loew really. If someone as some advice.

 

[MNK99]

-Well with some family history of diabetes (and it's prevalence ethnically (back home)), and 3000 fasted runs and 2000+ fasted strength training sessions, and extended fasting Q1, I should have super -diabetes, but somehow I avoided it. Not to mention 1600 school days and like 1000 workdays too. ---> MOST of that is Intermittent Fasting.,
-Lots was zero cals/24hrs tho.

-Fasting does not cause Diabetes.
-Is there some stupid study that shows that it does? (Maybe, but it's a moronic study if there is).

-BREAKING the fast badly can cause issues though.

-DRY MOUTH? 4billion patients and non patients have dry mouth.

 

[Pedro melo]

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-Well with some family history of diabetes (and it's prevalence ethnically (back home)), and 3000 fasted runs and 2000+ fasted strength training sessions, and extended fasting Q1, I should have super -diabetes, but somehow I avoided it. Not to mention 1600 school days and like 1000 workdays too.

-Fasting does not cause Diabetes.
-Is there some stupid study that shows that it does? (Maybe, but it's a moronic study if there is).

-BREAKING the fast badly can cause issues though.

-DRY MOUTH? 4billion patients and non patients have dry mouth.

Well my sugar was on 99... Yes there is a study that intrrmotent fasting can damage pancreas to rrealese insulin.
Oh well.. The dry mouth is not letting me sleep.
I didnt ate any sugar yet only lemon soup souno giess its OK. Im buiyn magnesium to help woth my cramps. Any advice on the dosage?

 

[MNK99]

-8 days or 7 days... will not cause diabetes. I knew there were studies mentioning that.
-It can be ended if need be, and I think you might anyways.
-I am not sure about taking magnesium right now, after a fast.
-This wasn't intermittent fasting anyways. Those guys back home have diabetes because 80% of their diet is carbs and less exercise.

 

[Pedro melo]

-8 days or 7 days... will not cause diabetes. I knew there were studies mentioning that.
-It can be ended if need be, and I think you might anyways.
-I am not sure about taking magnesium right now, after a fast.
-This wasn't intermittent fasting anyways. Those guys back home have diabetes because 80% of their diet is carbs and less exercise.

Marty B told that first week should.concentrate on the intake of eletrolytes thats why... And with my cramps i defenrly need some help...

 

[MNK99]

Ok, but I don't know the exact dosages... I took Mg from 25+ on because of reducing stimulant side effects (not last yr tho). So, I took a lot at times, but the lower side of the dosage on the bottle. I think the correct ones are MgCl2 hexahydrate, I will try and find electrolyte thread and link here.

https://hackstasis.com/threads/electrolyte-protocol-for-improved-health.523/

 

[Pedro melo]

I saw this before... Bit doesnt talk about the dosage. I allways fins eletrolyte protocolo relally confuse and full of things.

 

[MNK99]

Fair enough.

 

[Pedro melo]

Fair enough.

I saw onde good thing there. The hidrogênio Water. Think i should give it a shot?

 

[MNK99]

NO. Not yet... Some rec'd me to do that or ozone... I've never crashed since like 280 days ago, and fear either of those could, or at least they could drastically alter my oxidation rate. I would not recommend this straight out of a fast. If you mean later... I have no idea.

It could be helpful for others but I wouldn't use it, and also not at this stage (for you).

 

[MNK99]

Listen I did what HS, Ihatefin, Joekool at times... agreed made sense... If someone is in a similar position and otherwise healthy they could do this... am I saying it's right or the best? No... but it could be done. Alternatives are at the bottom.

-For now:
If you must end water fast:

-keep refeeding... 1-2weeks... and then... R-Andro and if you need it 4-Andro..
and some choline (to motivate you to hit the gym)... and then crush it there 6 weeks... be like 30-40%+ then PCT>... keep at it, do it again... then on and on... 12 -14 weeks from now... 50-60% and then... new stuff...

BUT: fasted training or not, that's up to you. Intermittent Fasting.

AND: --> Run Spinach and electrolytes with each meal (which is one more reason fasted training is easier, only need spinach and electrolytes 1-3x a day). It's also easier :
-because of Growth Hormone release,
-Increased Insulin Sensitivity (burns fat keeps away sugar problems), and makes you gain basically only muscle.

Then when ready, add soccer back... And HIIt's, interval cardio or interval Hill Sprints.

-and from there... take ru --- wait 2 weeks after PCT one. OR take before Randro and 4andro if you want (microdose 3 days, 2.5mg/200mg so 2.5mg MAX*** per day x 3 days).
(Tubzy, Ihatefin, I did... but I took way way more at times).

-Or ella and tribulus for anti prolactin
(Ihatefin).

-Alternatives:
-TEI / ARL. I think TEI makes sense for some fast oxidizers and people further along. Probably others too, I can't remember why.
-CD's Protocol (i.e. TMO).
-Also, all these can be done... at different times, spaced out 2-4 weeks (i.e. after PCT from R-Andro +/- 4-Andro) you could take Ella.
-Or Ru. Others go back and forth on this, but several people, maybe a lot... tried both. I did.

-2 cycles of Randro + PCT with CD's herbs, or conversely his program for 6months + can bring a person up to 40-60% or higher, or less... who knows. But* Consistency with whatever you choose is key***.
-I have no dog in this fight, just did what worked for me.
-I mention choline and possibly 4-Andro because those 2 and R-andro and my long fasting, plus IF, motivated me to hit the gym 90%+ of days where I could stand this year so far. Like at 18 or 20 almost (was twice or more a day then at times, but was younger).

 

[MNK99]

-I will put this here, bc people ask me and I never remember. --- when needed, take Betaine/HCl with Electrolytes.
-Is that time now? IDK.
- But, if Mattyb says it's wise to use them in the initial steps of refeed, then sure.
-Honestly took me like 6wks --2months to trust HCl... and now I like it... and could go w/o it but it helps too.... And I had to change the brand, bc the ones I used before were no good for me.