My hair analysis results. am I fast or slow?

[bruschi11]

The thing is, I tested copper in hair, blood, plasma, and ceruloplasmin. And I'm always low.

Wouldn't copper be high on a hair test if that was the case?
I get that copper toxicity might not be obvious in labs, but how can we test for it?

Even TEI wants to give me a ton of copper but no zinc.

My main symptoms
Addictive behavior (low dopamine?)
Weak erecrion, and premature ejaculation
Anxiety, bad startle response
Hard flaccid
Brain fog that comes and goes
Basically ther are days where I just can't think and feel very dumb lol
Kidney stones that get worse when I eat calcium or anything oxalates.
Feeling cold
Heat (sun) intolerance
Halitosis (not always)

I see one bacteria in my test under "auto immune triggers" it's Prevotella Coptic. You don't think it's worth it to try and kill it?

Thanks man.

If that’s what you think you gotta do then go for it. I’m living proof that sometimes you gotta start off with attacking pathogens to get beyond these issues.

Last year I started with a 25 day antibiotic run, followed by fasting, Low level laser, rife, colostrum/kefir/probiotics, and so on. My story is on my log.

Maybe something is in the way. You wouldn’t happen to have serum manganese bloods would you?

Also, copper toxicity can show up as low in blood and low in hair. It’s just the liver hanging onto copper where it’s just not being taken by ceruloplasmin and used by the body.

Ceruloplasmin is the copper carrier and when that is tanked, body can’t get copper to where it needs to go.

 

[Blugrass]

If that’s what you think you gotta do then go for it. I’m living proof that sometimes you gotta start off with attacking pathogens to get beyond these issues.

Last year I started with a 25 day antibiotic run, followed by fasting, Low level laser, rife, colostrum/kefir/probiotics, and so on. My story is on my log.

Maybe something is in the way. You wouldn’t happen to have serum manganese bloods would you?

Also, copper toxicity can show up as low in blood and low in hair. It’s just the liver hanging onto copper where it’s just not being taken by ceruloplasmin and used by the body.

Ceruloplasmin is the copper carrier and when that is tanked, body can’t get copper to where it needs to go.

Thanks for the discussion man.
I will not dismiss the possibility that I might be copper toxic. Yesterday I measure my "Free Copper" using this tool

InstaCalc Online Calculator

My result was 35 which is high according to the test. IDK how accurate this is, but I've see several people use it.

Which leads to the question, could TEI be wrong in giving me copper? maybe they don't consider Copper Toxicity unless they see it on the hair test.

I tested Manganese in blood last year, it was in normal range, unlike Copper.

Things that always stand out in my blood test:
- low BUN (and thus low BUN/Creatinine ratio)
- High DHEA (always above range)
- RBC on the higher side
- Low WBC
- Low Copper of course, and Ceruloplasmin
- High Prolactin
- High RT3
- Did the Iron panel twice, the first time it showed high Serum Iron, and highish Ferritin. I donated blood, re-tested, and they both came back much lower. (No change in my symptoms though). Actually felt worse after donating

You can see all of these labs in pages in this thread.
If I think of something else I will mention

Back to the drawing board LOL thanks for the input man.

 

[bruschi11]

Your body is stressed out. Reverse t3 says it.

You definitely have some work ahead for you in getting yourself right. But there's no doubt in my mind you can solve majority of your symptoms between 6-12 weeks if you figure yourself out and learn how to fix it. I'm not an expert, but I just think your body is clearly under stress with incapability of detoxing itself of whatever is harming it.

 

[Blugrass]

I finally received My Organic Acid Test results. At first glance, I have high Oxalic Acid, very low Vitamin C and NAC.Looks like I have a lot of studying to do this weekend. But I am excited!

 

[bruschi11]

WOW. Just like me with the vitamin C and low NAC. You are definitely having a major major detoxification problem. Can't say its Lyme but you're clogged with something or collection of things.

Do you have constipation? Fatigue?

Where in the states are you located?

 

[Blugrass]

WOW. Just like me with the vitamin C and low NAC. You are definitely having a major major detoxification problem. Can't say its Lyme but you're clogged with something or collection of things.

Do you have constipation? Fatigue?

Where in the states are you located?

Yes and Yes LOL.
Although Constipation is a little better now.
I am in Charlotte, North Carolina.

 

[Blugrass]

So I am not crazy and just paranoid like most doctors and some of my family told me LOL!

 

[bruschi11]

Have Lyme and co-infections looked at ASAP if you have the money. Mycoplasma, babesia, bartonella are the big ones. Or you can just try some l-norvaline and see how you react. When you confirm it, I can tutor you a bit.

Disease takes strategy to combat but its so beatable in a short amount of time say 3-6 months. Check my log, that doodle I wrote to Nina today. My strategy takes into account those major systems, causes.

I honestly think when you have a big pathogen, toxic load causing your major issues with PFS, removing those can literally remove 90% of the PFS. GBOLD explained it and it has something to do with what the pathogens do to NADPH. Hence, we saw the successes of cdsnuts, chi, ihatepropecia702, braziliandude,, English and so on.

 

[Blugrass]

Do you know a good company where I can order the Lyme tests? Without going to a doctor?

 

[bruschi11]

Do you know a good company where I can order the Lyme tests? Without going to a doctor?

I don't. Igenix is the best but they're so fucking expensive and insurance doesn't do shit. Its an extremely expensive disease if you decide to go the medicinal way.

The medical world's way is basically split- there are doctors who don't believe in it and basically give you an antibiotic for a couple weeks. Then there are doctors who do believe in it but they're so confused by it that they make you pay for like thousands of dollars in testing.

Medical world doesn't really get it. It sucks, but its true. I don't know what to tell you. But if you have a local doctor you can trust, just be like listen... I really want to get tested for mycoplasma, babesia, bartonella, and have a standard Lyme test. I'd also like to look at ammonia and Manganese serum (especially manganese,)

 

[Blugrass]

Thanks buddy, let me educate myself about this test, then I'll decide.

But what about the GI map test that I've done (previous page), does that not tell you anything about Lyme possiblity?

Also, I have tested Manganese in Whole blood last year. Its on page 1 post 7. That level was fine.

 

[Blugrass]

@bruschi11 have you posted your OAT in your thread before?

 

[bruschi11]

@bruschi11 have you posted your OAT in your thread before?

Yes from January 2019... it should be only a couple pages or so back on my log.

 

[bruschi11]

Thanks buddy, let me educate myself about this test, then I'll decide.

But what about the GI map test that I've done (previous page), does that not tell you anything about Lyme possiblity?

Also, I have tested Manganese in Whole blood last year. Its on page 1 post 7. That level was fine.

Good news regarding manganese. I doubt, if you have actual Lyme/ myco whatever, it’s actually doing much to way you function. That manga in hand is refreshing for you.

You may just have something similar to all sorts of Lyme people... which is just malfunctioning detox pathways and stuff clogged up. You might just need to fix the pathways with tei, ARL or htma nutritionist like one I have.

 

[Blugrass]

Good news regarding manganese. I doubt, if you have actual Lyme/ myco whatever, it’s actually doing much to way you function. That manga in hand is refreshing for you.

You may just have something similar to all sorts of Lyme people... which is just malfunctioning detox pathways and stuff clogged up. You might just need to fix the pathways with tei, ARL or htma nutritionist like one I have.

Yeah most likely it's not Lyme.

My oxalic acid is high which didn't surprise me because I suffer from kidney stones. The other oxalate markers on this test rule out genetic causes.

Candida markers are high. Even though the GI map was negative for that. But positive for EBV.

One of the markers for poor fat metabolism is high

I can't explain the low VC or NAC

But my initial thought about all of this based on what I understand is:

I don't metabolize fats very well, this is very consistent with my symptoms (sudden diarrhea after eating a fatty meal sometimes)

When you don't metabolize fats, it hangs around and binds with calcium. So instead of calcium binding with oxalates in the gut to make them insoluble. it's used up by fats.
That's leads to high oxalic acid. And calcium binds with oxalates in my kidneys instead of the gut.

High oxalates irritate candida and makes it pathogenic (some people will tell you it's the other way around, I don't believe that)

Again, this is just my initial impression. I need to know why I have an issue with fats. Liver flushes never helped me. It might be to be something else besides poor bile flow.

 

[Blugrass]

@bruschi11 I just looked at your OAT. Your Oxalic acid is off the charts high! Higher than mine! Not everyone gets kidney stones from high oxalates and you obviously don't have them. But still I'm learning about oxalates and how they can cause gut issues on their own.

 

[Blugrass]

I'm finally doing the TEI routine, it's been a almost a week which is the longest I've ever done it.

- I'm feeling anxious and stressed out!
- headaches that come and go.
- penis shrinkage is much worse.
- knees hurt especially after taking the pills
- my face looks much darker (copper?)
- I also look tired overall, bags under eyes are worse

On the other hand,
- I'm feeling more confident,
- more productive
- my ability to talk and communicate at work is improved.
- erection is maybe 5% better but still horrible.

I'm sticking with it. I'm also re testing next week.

 

[bruschi11]

@bruschi11 I just looked at your OAT. Your Oxalic acid is off the charts high! Higher than mine! Not everyone gets kidney stones from high oxalates and you obviously don't have them. But still I'm learning about oxalates and how they can cause gut issues on their own.

Yup Shawn Bean told me this when reviewing the test a few weeks ago. Definitely something I need to educate myself more after this fast.

Last year post fast I just did great with digestion. So it wasn’t something I worried about, but definitely makes sense.

 

[bruschi11]

I'm finally doing the TEI routine, it's been a almost a week which is the longest I've ever done it.

- I'm feeling anxious and stressed out!
- headaches that come and go.
- penis shrinkage is much worse.
- knees hurt especially after taking the pills
- my face looks much darker (copper?)
- I also look tired overall, bags under eyes are worse

On the other hand,
- I'm feeling more confident,
- more productive
- my ability to talk and communicate at work is improved.
- erection is maybe 5% better but still horrible.

I'm sticking with it. I'm also re testing next week.

Sounds similar to how many react to it. Including my myself. A lot of people don’t have that “on the other hand column” that you have though lol. So call yourself fortunate that it seems to be putting you in right direction.

 

[Blugrass]

Yup Shawn Bean told me this when reviewing the test a few weeks ago. Definitely something I need to educate myself more after this fast.

Last year post fast I just did great with digestion. So it wasn’t something I worried about, but definitely makes sense.

Here's a good video about oxalates