Bulletproof Gut Protocol - Questions, Comments, Experiences

Shanks

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So on Monday i started the protocol:


Because i am from Germany i got different products but i think they are the same. Except of the Probiotics

Psyllium seed husks (Bio Flohsamenschalen)
Green Banana Flour (Kochbananenmehl)
GOS (Bimuno GOS)
Amazing Grass Green (Amazing Grass Green Berry)
Probiotics + Inulin (Probiona PLUS living 120 Bill KBE) Bifidobacterium (B.) bifidum, B. breve, B. infantis, B. lactis, B. longum, Lactobacillus (L.) acidophilus, L. bulgaricus, L. casei, L. crispatus, L. gasseri, L. paracasei, L. plantarum, L. reuteri, L. rhamnosus, L. jensenii, L. fermentum, Lactococcus lactis, Streptococcus thermophilus

I take this stuff 1x daily in the morning like @Ocguy described it on page 1

The condition of my skin gets worse at the moment... but i dont expected a miracle. ^^

@Ocguy what do you think about the probiotics i chose?
 

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You are lucky… As forecasted, amazon do not send Amazing Grass to The islands and only to main Spain...

Ths is a reason why I asked about HOW to decide for an equivalent, because we do find some superfoods in healthfood stores…. I already have psillium and of course local banana flour!
 

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You are lucky… As forecasted, amazon do not send Amazing Grass to The islands and only to main Spain...

Ths is a reason why I asked about HOW to decide for an equivalent, because we do find some superfoods in healthfood stores…. I already have psillium and of course local banana flour!

just use Iherb.com they deliver to Cyprus within 3-4 days. May be the same for Spanish islands. When I used supps I mostly ordered supps from iherb and it always amazed me how fast they delivered to Cyprus. Amazon was always pain in the butt. Amazon delivery charges were huge, and timing mostly sucked.
 
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Aleksandr

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So on Monday i started the protocol:


Because i am from Germany i got different products but i think they are the same. Except of the Probiotics

Psyllium seed husks (Bio Flohsamenschalen)
Green Banana Flour (Kochbananenmehl)
GOS (Bimuno GOS)
Amazing Grass Green (Amazing Grass Green Berry)
Probiotics + Inulin (Probiona PLUS living 120 Bill KBE) Bifidobacterium (B.) bifidum, B. breve, B. infantis, B. lactis, B. longum, Lactobacillus (L.) acidophilus, L. bulgaricus, L. casei, L. crispatus, L. gasseri, L. paracasei, L. plantarum, L. reuteri, L. rhamnosus, L. jensenii, L. fermentum, Lactococcus lactis, Streptococcus thermophilus

I take this stuff 1x daily in the morning like @Ocguy described it on page 1

The condition of my skin gets worse at the moment... but i dont expected a miracle. ^^

@Ocguy what do you think about the probiotics i chose?
I think he said it might get a little worse at the start; more gas etc. Give it at least 2 weeks id say

BTW i've ordered my stuff too, hopefully it will come tomorrow. It will be cool to see how we go considering we're starting around a similar time.
 

jinstewart

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I'm guessing this can't HURT to run alongside anything else (and also Gillian Hamer's probiotics/supps) either, so I'm going to give it a shot.

Question though, can I use kefir instead of water, stir it all up and down it?

Thanks @Ocguy this looks sound!
 

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can I use kefir instead of water, stir it all up and down it?

Thanks @Ocguy this looks sound!
Kéfir has fungi and makes alcohol though Little.
Not good for mold allergic people for example, as a cross trigger. I stopped it after some kinesiology tests.
 

Canari

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The real problem I see with probiotics...
the 3 mentionned in the op are meant to be kept refrigerated, but are not sent refrigerated not even with a protection.
And we are in summer.

Then while Reading comments, people who do the "milk test" say that the test fails. How can we trust that a probiotic is what they say it is and with what they say that is in it?

Can we make a probiotic with real yogurt? I actually have an ewe and milk… The problem is that for getting the fermentation you need to keep it raw and I see some molds coming in there… Or buy organic cabbage and make it ferment?

I do not want to buy good stuff that Will travel unrefrigerated, not the freeze dry that may have no use if not enough is left in there. This is actually why I have never bought probiotics, feeling that was a waste of money.
 

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I'm guessing this can't HURT to run alongside anything else (and also Gillian Hamer's probiotics/supps) either, so I'm going to give it a shot.

Question though, can I use kefir instead of water, stir it all up and down it?

Thanks @Ocguy this looks sound!

Kefir with this is maybe a good idea maybe a bad one I don’t know.... but man that’s going to taste awfulllll haha
 

jinstewart

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Kefir with this is maybe a good idea maybe a bad one I don’t know.... but man that’s going to taste awfulllll haha

Aight, I think I'll try it with kefir. Don't think it's done me harm in the past. Thanks bruschi. :)

And lol this ain't fine-dining! I'd eat poop for a month if it'd get rid of PFS! :) (No poop protocols pls.)
 

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Aight, I think I'll try it with kefir. Don't think it's done me harm in the past. Thanks bruschi. :)

And lol this ain't fine-dining! I'd eat poop for a month if it'd get rid of PFS! :) (No poop protocols pls.)

genuinely been looking at fecal transplants as a solution to gut problems
 

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genuinely been looking at fecal transplants as a solution to gut problems

Don’t dude. Do something like this or big probiotic enemas with diverse bacteria like I’m doing.
 

Canari

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Would you please tell what probiotics you use and can use in this protocole?
I cannot get fresh refrigerated probiotics!
So what REALLY keeps its liveliness and is still efficient after transport?
 

Ocguy

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Would you please tell what probiotics you use and can use in this protocole?
I cannot get fresh refrigerated probiotics!
So what REALLY keeps its liveliness and is still efficient after transport?

The best probiotic that DOESN'T need refrigeration is Jarrodophilus capsules, the are enteric coated (hardshell) and break open in the colon(won't die in your stomach acid).. plus they are stable in room temp.. I prefer powder with this protocol cuz it sticks to the goo.. but jarrow makes an excellent probiotic for the reasons I mention and will be fine with the drink.. just swallow it at the same time

https://www.amazon.com/Jarrow-Formulas-Jarro-Dophilus-Supports-Intestinal/dp/B0013OUKTS
 
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Ocguy

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So on Monday i started the protocol:


Because i am from Germany i got different products but i think they are the same. Except of the Probiotics

Psyllium seed husks (Bio Flohsamenschalen)
Green Banana Flour (Kochbananenmehl)
GOS (Bimuno GOS)
Amazing Grass Green (Amazing Grass Green Berry)
Probiotics + Inulin (Probiona PLUS living 120 Bill KBE) Bifidobacterium (B.) bifidum, B. breve, B. infantis, B. lactis, B. longum, Lactobacillus (L.) acidophilus, L. bulgaricus, L. casei, L. crispatus, L. gasseri, L. paracasei, L. plantarum, L. reuteri, L. rhamnosus, L. jensenii, L. fermentum, Lactococcus lactis, Streptococcus thermophilus

I take this stuff 1x daily in the morning like @Ocguy described it on page 1

The condition of my skin gets worse at the moment... but i dont expected a miracle. ^^

@Ocguy what do you think about the probiotics i chose?

Not sure, my German is rusty :) they look pretty good, lots of strains, good reviews.. are they shelf stable kind or did they come cold?.. just keep taking the drink, your skin will inprove
 
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Ocguy

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Yeah for now am on this gut protocol and actually feeling a bit better so will keep it going

I used to be a big proponent for fecal transplants, and still am if u have a life threatening situation, like c-diff

but there can be complications. First of all the clinics don't take into account the weight/mass of the donor, I've heard of people after a fecal, gain 20 to 30 lbs with no effort because even though the donor didn't have any virulent strains, their firmacute to bacteroides ratio was off, and now you have the microbiome of a heavy person.. that's so tough to come back from.. just one example. it's best to work with the microbiome you're born with.. just keep feeding them
 

Ocguy

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I'm guessing this can't HURT to run alongside anything else (and also Gillian Hamer's probiotics/supps) either, so I'm going to give it a shot.

Question though, can I use kefir instead of water, stir it all up and down it?

Thanks @Ocguy this looks sound!


Ugh. That's gonna be extra thick..u might need to spoon feed. lol