Bulletproof Gut Protocol - Questions, Comments, Experiences

[Ocguy]

I'm on the second day of this stuff. I actually get a minor boost of energy right after I drink it. I'm doing it twice a day. Morning empty stomach and before bed. This stuff keeps me pretty full all day long and I feel more stable on it like I don't have blood sugar crashes and stuff like that and feel more level headed. I'm doing the exact method outline im just using the inulin instead of Nutri FOS and the probiotic 5 day max care from vitamin shoppe which they have in the fridge there. I actually like this so far.

My gut was fucked initially coming off fin and then a few months after PFS I got tested for mono and Lyme. They said it was Lyme at first and was on 4 antibiotics for 4 months straight which destroyed my gut even worse than just PFS did and the antibiotics did nothing for Lyme as come to find out I never had Lyme once I went to a specialist and my antigens were just from the mono. So I ended up screwing my gut for no reason. So I hope this protocol helps.

Just stay on it, if you have any issues cut the dose and build back up.. it has to help, this is the epitome of a brute force hack, you are forcefully removing the bad bugs from the small intestine, and feeding the good bugs in the colon, just give it time and trust the process

 

[TubZy]

Just stay on it, if you have any issues cut the dose and build back up.. it has to help, this is the epitome of a brute force hack, you are forcefully removing the bad bugs from the small intestine, and feeding the good bugs in the colon, just give it time and trust the process

I just saw your log. Did this protocol help you with post dut?

 

[TubZy]

Also, for any of you guys who don't have any severe issues and are just trying to fix hair loss. Doing this protocol plus potentially adding the Lactobacillus reuteri strain to the drink could regrow hair. My hopes would be that adding that strain to this drink could help it colonize better.

Probiotic Bacteria Induce a ‘Glow of Health’

 

[Ocguy]

I just saw your log. Did this protocol help you with post dut?

Post dut I was crashing and didn't even know it. I bought a house in 2011 and there was a tiny but of mold, nothing major but my system was so fucked, I ended up getting severe mold toxicity, I did ozone, charcoal, bentonite clay, tons of herbal antifungals, antibacterials with little relief... also I had severe pain in a few teeth that had to be pulled.. the dentist put me on two rounds of clindamycon.. during the height of my mold issues (which I didn't know at the time) my gut was literally decimated.. I couldn't eat anything without burping all day.. not to mention the stools were fucked.. little pieces of food, mucous, candida , I wasn't digesting anything

for 3 years I suffered endlessly, ginger tea would help, but I literally spent the whole day trying to fix my gut with protocols. . Within two weeks of starting this protocol the 24/7 burping was gone, I stayed on it for a few months, i still hop on every so often. . But my gut is now stronger than its ever been, even before I got sick.. it saved me, and many others i've introduced to it

 

[TubZy]

Post dut I was crashing and didn't even know it. I bought a house in 2011 and there was a tiny but of mold, nothing major but my system was so fucked, I ended up getting severe mold toxicity, I did ozone, charcoal, bentonite clay, tons of herbal antifungals, antibacterials with little relief... also I had severe pain in a few teeth that had to be pulled.. the dentist put me on two rounds of clindamycon.. during the height of my mold issues (which I didn't know at the time) my gut was literally decimated.. I couldn't eat anything without burping all day.. not to mention the stools were fucked.. little pieces of food, mucous, candida , I wasn't digesting anything

for 3 years I suffered endlessly, ginger tea would help, but I literally spent the whole day trying to fix my gut with protocols. . Within two weeks of starting this protocol the 24/7 burping was gone, I stayed on it for a few months, i still hop on every so often. . But my gut is now stronger than its ever been, even before I got sick.. it saved me, and many others i've introduced to it

Nice, how are you today? That was similar issue to except MCS from PFS and going on antibiotics made it even worse.

Are you totally back to normal now? and how is your hair as well?

 

[Ocguy]

Nice, how are you today? That was similar issue to except MCS from PFS and going on antibiotics made it even worse.

Are you totally back to normal now? and how is your hair as well?

Well i still have post dut, but I'm slowly coming out with mineral balancing.. libido is dead, but I'm jogging and weight training so at least I'm getting night wood and showing some sparks of life.. hair is fine, I stopped shedding years ago with the crash

 

[TubZy]

Well i still have post dut, but I'm slowly coming out with mineral balancing.. libido is dead, but I'm jogging and weight training so at least I'm getting night wood and showing some sparks of life.. hair is fine, I stopped shedding years ago with the crash

Ok so this gut protocol helped you relieve many other issues (digestion etc) but not much for post dut overall? Are you still doing this gut protocol every day as of today?

 

[Ocguy]

Ok so this gut protocol helped you relieve many other issues (digestion etc) but not much for post dut overall? Are you still doing this gut protocol every day as of today?

At the end of 2015 i quit Everything including this protocol, I still didn't know wtf was wrong with me. I had libido 2 years after I quit dut in 2010, but back then I was a health and gym freak, when the collagen in my face started degrading, and I kept getting colds, I didn't realize it was the start, but my libido kept pumping.. after a stressful event in 2012 I was in full blown crash.. I battled back with tons of alternative treatmemts, added the gut protocol for that last year, 2015 as I mentioned in previous post

When my gut was solid but my dick still wasnt the way it used to be but looking back still not that bad, but add to the fact I spent my life savings on alternative treatments, I basically gave up.. well that decision almost killed me.. by end 2017 , early 2018 I got really bad.. stiff as a board, chronic fatigue, knotted up muscles everywhere, high blood pressure, rapid heart rate.. all new and even deeper symptoms.. this is when I started investigating pfs, and it all made sense. I didn't think something could still affect u long after.. not gonna lie, I signed up for exit international and had nembutal on order

it was @bruschi11 s posts and his attitude that inspired me to give it another shot, so I'm clawing my way back out.. so yeah I'm back on the drink and mineral balancing.
libido is the last thing to come back, but I believe the drink is a huge component not just in balancing the gut microbes but these starches and fiber help rid the toxins the liver is trying to dump instead of reabsorbing them from a weak and permeable colon

 

[JasonSky]

At the end of 2015 i quit Everything including this protocol, I still didn't know wtf was wrong with me. I had libido 2 years after I quit dut in 2010, but back then I was a health and gym freak, when the collagen in my face started degrading, and I kept getting colds, I didn't realize it was the start, but my libido kept pumping.. after a stressful event in 2012 I was in full blown crash.. I battled back with tons of alternative treatmemts, added the gut protocol for that last year, 2015 as I mentioned in previous post

When my gut was solid but my dick still wasnt the way it used to be but looking back still not that bad, but add to the fact I spent my life savings on alternative treatments, I basically gave up.. well that decision almost killed me.. by end 2017 , early 2018 I got really bad.. stiff as a board, chronic fatigue, knotted up muscles everywhere, high blood pressure, rapid heart rate.. all new and even deeper symptoms.. this is when I started investigating pfs, and it all made sense. I didn't think something could still affect u long after.. not gonna lie, I signed up for exit international and had nembutal on order

it was @bruschi11 s posts and his attitude that inspired me to give it another shot, so I'm clawing my way back out.. so yeah I'm back on the drink and mineral balancing.
libido is the last thing to come back, but I believe the drink is a huge component not just in balancing the gut microbes but these starches and fiber help rid the toxins the liver is trying to dump instead of reabsorbing them from a weak and permeable colon

We're all gonna make it brah

 

[Walker]

@Ocguy seems like my reaction was just to TEI. Got the classic hard retracing symptoms, sore teeth, gums - metallic taste in mouth. Probably the enhanced digestion kicked them up a bit versus usual.

 

[Ocguy]

@Ocguy seems like my reaction was just to TEI. Got the classic hard retracing symptoms, sore teeth, gums - metallic taste in mouth. Probably the enhanced digestion kicked them up a bit versus usual.

Good to hear ,Yea I've been going thru some healing crisis episodes on arl.. just keep going with the gut, cut back if u have to, but stick with it, it will pay off

 

[Aleksandr]

@Boris I'm about 2 weeks in now, my hair feels really really good on this stuff. I think my dandruff has improved too? But I did use some anti dandruff shampoo before starting it.

I'm a bit bloated a lot of the time, and I shit minimum 3 times a day now (more like twice before). I only just started farting lol, interestingly they dont smell at all.

I should say I've also begun eating potatoes (cooked, cooked then reheated... supposed to have resistant starch too) as one of my main carb sources. Previously eating potatoes I'd get awful smelling farts, but nothing now.

My diet has been pretty off ththe rails, eating sugar and stuff randomly. But it sees like I can eat half a huge cake and have no problems from it now... for sure I feel more robust.

 

[TubZy]

@Boris I'm about 2 weeks in now, my hair feels really really good on this stuff. I think my dandruff has improved too? But I did use some anti dandruff shampoo before starting it.

I'm a bit bloated a lot of the time, and I shit minimum 3 times a day now (more like twice before). I only just started farting lol, interestingly they dont smell at all.

I should say I've also begun eating potatoes (cooked, cooked then reheated... supposed to have resistant starch too) as one of my main carb sources. Previously eating potatoes I'd get awful smelling farts, but nothing now.

My diet has been pretty off ththe rails, eating sugar and stuff randomly. But it sees like I can eat half a huge cake and have no problems from it now... for sure I feel more robust.

A lot of the strains are anti inflammatory (down regulate inflammatory cytokine). That one study I'm mainly interested is the L. reuteri strain since it is VERY good for skin and hair and a strong anti inflammatory. Getting these strains to actually colonize was always an issue in the past. If this drink can actually enhance colonization then we definitely should look at this.

Also Lactobacillus rhamnosus

Hair growth promoting effect of essence manufactured with products fermented by Lactobacillus rhamnosus and Backryeoncho ( Opuntia ficus-indica var. sarboten) fruits in mice

Hair loss is a clinical problem that is becoming more common in the world but it is generally poorly controlled and more effective treatments are required. In this study, we evaluated the hair growth promoting effect of essence manufactured with products fermented by backryeoncho (Opuntia ficus-indica var. sarboten) fruits and Lactobacillus rhamnosus on hair growth in mice. The bacterial number after fermentation always remained higher than 6 log CFU/mL and the pH of those ranged from 4 to 6. Mice topically applied with 0.1 mL essence at once daily for 8 days after shaving furs of their back showed more significant hair growth promoting effect than that of minoxidil. Body weight and food intake of all groups didn’t show significant difference. Furthermore, histological evaluation showed that the essence containing fermented products markedly increased the depth and size of the hair follicles, as compared to the minoxidil.

Testosterone as well:

Probiotic Microbes Sustain Youthful Serum Testosterone Levels and Testicular Size in Aging Mice

 

[Potion]

A lot of the strains are anti inflammatory (down regulate inflammatory cytokine). That one study I'm mainly interested is the L. reuteri strain since it is VERY good for skin and hair and a strong anti inflammatory. Getting these strains to actually colonize was always an issue in the past. If this drink can actually enhance colonization then we definitely should look at this.

Also Lactobacillus rhamnosus

Hair growth promoting effect of essence manufactured with products fermented by Lactobacillus rhamnosus and Backryeoncho ( Opuntia ficus-indica var. sarboten) fruits in mice

Hair loss is a clinical problem that is becoming more common in the world but it is generally poorly controlled and more effective treatments are required. In this study, we evaluated the hair growth promoting effect of essence manufactured with products fermented by backryeoncho (Opuntia ficus-indica var. sarboten) fruits and Lactobacillus rhamnosus on hair growth in mice. The bacterial number after fermentation always remained higher than 6 log CFU/mL and the pH of those ranged from 4 to 6. Mice topically applied with 0.1 mL essence at once daily for 8 days after shaving furs of their back showed more significant hair growth promoting effect than that of minoxidil. Body weight and food intake of all groups didn’t show significant difference. Furthermore, histological evaluation showed that the essence containing fermented products markedly increased the depth and size of the hair follicles, as compared to the minoxidil.

Testosterone as well:

Probiotic Microbes Sustain Youthful Serum Testosterone Levels and Testicular Size in Aging Mice

There are being found fewer and fewer body systems that are unaffected by the microbiome.

 

[Helen]

@Boris I'm about 2 weeks in now, my hair feels really really good on this stuff. I think my dandruff has improved too? But I did use some anti dandruff shampoo before starting it.

I'm a bit bloated a lot of the time, and I shit minimum 3 times a day now (more like twice before). I only just started farting lol, interestingly they dont smell at all.

I should say I've also begun eating potatoes (cooked, cooked then reheated... supposed to have resistant starch too) as one of my main carb sources. Previously eating potatoes I'd get awful smelling farts, but nothing now.

My diet has been pretty off ththe rails, eating sugar and stuff randomly. But it sees like I can eat half a huge cake and have no problems from it now... for sure I feel more robust.

you just started high vitamin b6 regimen. vitamin b6 totally restores hair in some people.. since it kills cortisol and androgen receptor. transcription.

whenever I take b6 , my hair feels invincible and dandruff goes to zero. According to studies, all people with dandruff had b6 deficiency

Remember in your case alkaline phosphotase puts b6 in the cell. Alkaline phosphatase is magnesium and zinc enzyme. So for some magnesium and for some zinc is helping to put b6 into the cell.

Severe Dandruff

interesting to see malasessia.


Remember as we read before that magnesium absorbtion is effected by flora, so it can help.

 

[supernature]

you just started high vitamin b6 regimen. vitamin b6 totally restores hair in some people.. since it kills cortisol and androgen receptor. transcription

Remember in your case alkaline phosphotase puts b6 in the cell. Alkaline phosphatase is magnesium and zinc enzyme. So for some magnesium and for some zinc is helping to put b6 into the cell.

Is it oxidation types slow fast related this: alkaline phosphatase to work or not and to put B6 into cell in some people and not in other ?

Or is more related to the rate of activity of the enzyme itself, thats why two cases of low and high activity and works in some and not in other people ?

 

[Helen]

A lot of the strains are anti inflammatory (down regulate inflammatory cytokine). That one study I'm mainly interested is the L. reuteri strain since it is VERY good for skin and hair and a strong anti inflammatory. Getting these strains to actually colonize was always an issue in the past. If this drink can actually enhance colonization then we definitely should look at this.

Also Lactobacillus rhamnosus

Hair growth promoting effect of essence manufactured with products fermented by Lactobacillus rhamnosus and Backryeoncho ( Opuntia ficus-indica var. sarboten) fruits in mice

Hair loss is a clinical problem that is becoming more common in the world but it is generally poorly controlled and more effective treatments are required. In this study, we evaluated the hair growth promoting effect of essence manufactured with products fermented by backryeoncho (Opuntia ficus-indica var. sarboten) fruits and Lactobacillus rhamnosus on hair growth in mice. The bacterial number after fermentation always remained higher than 6 log CFU/mL and the pH of those ranged from 4 to 6. Mice topically applied with 0.1 mL essence at once daily for 8 days after shaving furs of their back showed more significant hair growth promoting effect than that of minoxidil. Body weight and food intake of all groups didn’t show significant difference. Furthermore, histological evaluation showed that the essence containing fermented products markedly increased the depth and size of the hair follicles, as compared to the minoxidil.

Testosterone as well:

Probiotic Microbes Sustain Youthful Serum Testosterone Levels and Testicular Size in Aging Mice

I agree the balance of different strains is very hard to achieve. since for some person it would be good and for some very bad.

also don't forget that rats hair could be like our body hair.


SIBO in the gut, is basically leaky gut. SIBO can be organized by all species .

1) too much lacto= sibo from lactic acid producing bacteria= boom you get leaky gut, and inflammation and autoimmune disease, like POIS

this is why people like this for instance lose all their hair, even with strains which you mentioned. Garden of Life, RAW Probiotics, Ultimate Care, 30 Veggie Caps

since indigested protein goes into blood with water from small intestine. Only acidic intestine does that and small intestine should be alkaline and with very little bacteria.or any other species.

2) too much fungus, like malassezia which is found in POIS people in crazy amounts. and boom that thing eats fats and produces acid, which normally causes acne.
just imagine what it does to the intestine, if it causes acne on the surface of the skin. Just imagine what kind of NASH that thing can cause. also it kills other species.

3) viral infection , kills glutathione and kills all other species.


I wonder if so called genetics which you inherit from your mom. is just the bacteria which you get from her. and then you have similar diseases.

lets say your mom has staph infection. boom you get it and then you are autistic. since none of your other flora grows properly when you are a baby. there is always some flora imbalance, causing some oxidation problems..



this is why the balancing of the flora and the need for the flora is so tricky. and even questionable still. Since in my opinion flora is supportive, means supports some of the lacks of your metabolism.

But we dont know what your metabolism needs for instance.


This is why some people take probiotics with 30 and more strains and think they are doing good and lose all their hair to bald. I saw several cases like this, since we have been trying this SIBO flora stuff for so many years, since 2009. and I observed so many people attempt at this, with POIS .


some got better, some even cured, and some totally worse and bald.


this is why it always led me to think that may be. the proper way to deal with this, would be


go on 1) antiviral 2) antibio 3) antifungal and then slowly come off.

this way you get sterile gut from all species, and you are like a new born baby, but without the moms bugs.


since any of 3 things, will always fuck up the others. so people take antibio, grow fungus, fucked. take antifungal grow bacteria , fucked. take probiotics, kills e coli, and fungus, fucked.


So I attempted this for couple of people before, and those people re cured from POIS and this was my main idea of curing lymphoma and cancer also

You go on all 3. then you let your body rebalance itself like it has no infections. it will take months.

and then you slowly come off of all 3. and then the flora and virus and funguses will repopulate according to your environment and your actual DNA, and not according to your moms bugs.

so you bettter stay away from people for that time. for 3-4 weeks. live in nature.


Also i am afraid but you will need to chelate with this procedure also, since if your flora was causing oxidative stress etc. and all improper biochemistry, you are toxic in stuff big time. like autistic children.

and even if you go on all 3 for a while. the body will not be able to get rid of metals this fast may be.


Of course the main question is do you even need the flora. and will it hurt you if you stay an antibiotics antifungals anti virals for a while.

May be a human being can live without this synergism at all. and have even more energy.

since these days, anywhere you go , boom you get a virus or an infection, and boom your flora starts growing wrong, and then you re worsening over time.

may be this is what aging is. Worsening flora. so from supportive flora it turns into desctructive flora.

same stuff people get from sex. We have a russian forum, where it is forum for people who got mostly sick from random sex encounters.

like a person has sex and then boom sick and CFS for 10 years.

I mean your wife your girlfriend, all of them have different flora. and viruses. some have shingles some herpes.

I remember when I had PFS and my wife had cancer, she had crazy viruses and every time I would have sex with her, I would feel terrible for days after which did not happen without penetration.

So the question is how to protect yourself from that. since one encounter and boom you are getting worse.

 

[Seekinghealth]

you just started high vitamin b6 regimen. vitamin b6 totally restores hair in some people.. since it kills cortisol and androgen receptor. transcription.

whenever I take b6 , my hair feels invincible and dandruff goes to zero. According to studies, all people with dandruff had b6 deficiency

Remember in your case alkaline phosphotase puts b6 in the cell. Alkaline phosphatase is magnesium and zinc enzyme. So for some magnesium and for some zinc is helping to put b6 into the cell.

Severe Dandruff

interesting to see malasessia.


Remember as we read before that magnesium absorbtion is effected by flora, so it can help.

What would it mean if Alk. Phosphatase is already high in the blood, in the context of hair with regards to taking b6?
Despite the high value, I still feel like b6 (p5p) helps out. Also, Regular b6 is high in serum!

 

[gaivs]

Bulletproof Gut Protocol/Sibo Cure

*2 to 3 months daily for full benefit * does give some immediate benefits too. But not what it's designed for

Yerba prima psyllium powder (unflavored)
Raw banana flour (wedo or brand similar)
Amazing grass green powder ( BERRY flavor)
Nutra flora prebiotic ( Fos) OR Bimuno (GOS) OR Inulin
Powder probiotic (vsl3 or garden of life intensive or solary probiotic powder or jarrodohilus if refrigeration is an issue)
Optional - SBO organisms (garden of life or Code-age)
Mason jar or any water container with a big mouth and lid

Add 1 tblsp psyllium, 1 tblsp banana flour , 1 serving of FOS , 1 serving of amazing grass, 1 serving of probiotic to mason jar with 1 pint of water, screw cap and shake vigorously , drink down quick

Take this once or even twice per day (for quicker results) after your gut is healed you can cut back to twice per week or even stop for a while

Here is what happens.. this concoction is basically resistant starch so your body doesn't absorb it, but it becomes very sticky like slime in your gut. It serves two purposes.. it scrapes the small bowel (where you shouldn't have any bacteria but likely do from bacteria migrating or faulty inflamed ileocecal valve )
anyway this slime blob is like fly paper to all the bad bugs in your small intestine, as it travels to your colon it FEEDS all your good bacteria at the same time. As you do this daily the bad bugs get eliminated and your good bugs get fed, grow and thrive..

eventually your gut will be bulletproof and functioning perfectly, 2 to 3 months to get full benefit but will likely start eliminating better rather quickly..

People with CFS seems to do better on soil based probiotics like Prescript Assist than with lactobacillus and bifidobacterium. Josh Abrhams also cured himself of PSF using Prescript Assist as the probiotics. What if we take some soil based probiotics with this protocol instead of VSL#3?

The guy of CFS Remission site also recommends soil based as probiotics for CFS and doesn't recommend the lactobacillus.

 

[Ocguy]

I didn't include prescript assist in recipe because they changed the formula significantly. .

Prescript Assist Announcement – Chris Kresser LLC

Instead I linked to garden of life's SBO, they have a good track record in general, it's all about trust really