Bulletproof Gut Protocol - Questions, Comments, Experiences

[tanedout]

it could chelate and bind mercury also. I personally could not tolerate spirulina in PFS at all. I was suspecting high tryptophan content of it. but it could have been chelation.

I know a lot of people can't tolerate chlorophyll with pyroluria, may be that was that.

No matter what you take you will have initial bad symptoms if it really is helping you, IMO.

This makes me think mineral balancing. It’s probably tackling the consequences rather than the underlying issues that are causing things to build up incorrectly, but at least it’s in theory helping the body to move in the right direction.

ARL seems to include more things for detox. Maybe that makes the most sense

 

[TubZy]

it could chelate and bind mercury also. I personally could not tolerate spirulina in PFS at all. I was suspecting high tryptophan content of it. but it could have been chelation.

I know a lot of people can't tolerate chlorophyll with pyroluria, may be that was that.

No matter what you take you will have initial bad symptoms if it really is helping you, IMO.

Also, you need to be at least be on this for one month bare minimum and 2 months ideally to really gauge anything. Identifying symtpoms now isn't really going to be accurate same as doing mineral balancing or fasting etc. Just stick it through then evaluate. You heard @Ocguy everyone he gave it too complained in the beginning so I think it's fair to give it some time.

 

[Helen]

This makes me think mineral balancing. It’s probably tackling the consequences rather than the underlying issues that are causing things to build up incorrectly, but at least it’s in theory helping the body to move in the right direction.

ARL seems to include more things for detox. Maybe that makes the most sense

there is no mineral balancing, TEI and ARL are chelating things , forcing them out. that is why you feel bad, they are not giving you some mineral for you to feel better.
as I mentioned already, their system is not to feed you something for you to feel better, or you are missing some mineral.

they look at your body chemistry, and they will be going at at , until your bodychemistry gives in and moves. Like they see you are fast oxidizer, they will be feeding you stuff until your oxidation rate gives in . some metals, or some bacteria, or some virus, does not allow the oxidation rate to change. so they re forcing it out.

IMO , it is the only proper way to do it. and all other stuff simply does not works. besides chelation therapy with actual binders.

but ARL and TEI told me it is so hard to chelate stuff with chelators from the tissue.

I personally use chelators, but I have a specific case, which I know what I am toxic in.


But ARL and TEI re made for detox. they are not multivitamin.


the only differnce between them and DMSA let say , is that TEI and ARL chelate specific minerals out, using minerals.

I know a lot of people still think they they just give you a multivitamin or something. it has nothing to do with it.

 

[Helen]

@tanedout good example for you. I don't know if you ever had strep infection, or some infection on the skin or fungus.

or some infection in the mouth on the membranes. the way it works is that mineral content of the lining of the gut or membrane or the PH, allows stuff to grow.

lets say you have high copper and low zinc, in the skin of the intestine, boom certain stuff grows, then you have high zinc and low copper another thing grows.

high iron, boom strep grows.

SO ARL and TEI manipulate the membrane so stuff dies. this is why sometimes they make you feel bad. by chelating something or feed you something to kill something.

Probiotics SIBO route might be good also, if it works. It might accelerate the chelating process. plus this protocol has all these chelating things in it. in green powder.

Some people will feel terrible on them, since may be mercury and other stuff will be coming, out. Andy Culter advises against spirulinas and chlorelas and says that they make you worse. if you have mercury. he could be right, but I saw some people get better on them from mercury , and also saw some crash very very bad for years after using them. So it is tricky question.

And 2 months will not show anything for those people more like 2 years.


I tried chelating with herbs, it made me insane, all the one thiol things were just redistrubuting things like crazy. I mean if you have copper or some anthinomy is one thing, but if this stuff touches mercury which I had in my red blood cells out of range, then you feel it, and you feel it bad. really bad, like worst finasteride crash.

when I took single thiols and my mercury started to go , the crash was just like on finasteride, total hemolytic anemia. And I got myself out of it, very fast by ALA and EDTA. but it was scary. like your body turns off you become totally yellow and your blood cells start breaking down, you cant' breathe.


at the same time I know a person with high mercury levels, and she took cilantro and chlorella and did really good. so it depends on the case. may be on condition of your lipid system. how fast the body can protect the membrane.and rebuild them

 

[TubZy]

@tanedout good example for you. I don't know if you ever had strep infection, or some infection on the skin or fungus.

or some infection in the mouth on the membranes. the way it works is that mineral content of the lining of the gut or membrane or the PH, allows stuff to grow.

lets say you have high copper and low zinc, in the skin of the intestine, boom certain stuff grows, then you have high zinc and low copper another thing grows.

high iron, boom strep grows.

SO ARL and TEI manipulate the membrane so stuff dies. this is why sometimes they make you feel bad. by chelating something or feed you something to kill something.

Probiotics SIBO route might be good also, if it works. It might accelerate the chelating process. plus this protocol has all these chelating things in it. in green powder.

Some people will feel terrible on them, since may be mercury and other stuff will be coming, out. Andy Culter advises against spirulinas and chlorelas and says that they make you worse. if you have mercury. he could be right, but I saw some people get better on them from mercury , and also saw some crash very very bad for years after using them. So it is tricky question.

And 2 months will not show anything for those people more like 2 years.


I tried chelating with herbs, it made me insane, all the one thiol things were just redistrubuting things like crazy. I mean if you have copper or some anthinomy is one thing, but if this stuff touches mercury which I had in my red blood cells out of range, then you feel it, and you feel it bad. really bad, like worst finasteride crash.

when I took single thiols and my mercury started to go , the crash was just like on finasteride, total hemolytic anemia. And I got myself out of it, very fast by ALA and EDTA. but it was scary. like your body turns off you become totally yellow and your blood cells start breaking down, you cant' breathe.


at the same time I know a person with high mercury levels, and she took cilantro and chlorella and did really good. so it depends on the case. may be on condition of your lipid system. how fast the body can protect the membrane.and rebuild them

And also it would depend on available glutathione levels right? The more available glutathione your body can use the more effectively it can get rid of it. If you glutathione levels are binded or occupied constantly chelating things will make you feel even worse since your body can barely get rid of it properly

 

[Ocguy]

It’s funny you mention that - I tried taking just some of the Amazing Greens stuff and after a couple of days I was getting extremely agitated at the slighted thing. Usually I’m very calm and laid back, but I was feeling like the slighted thing would send me into a rage - not a nice feeling.

I’ve stopped taking it now as I think it’s making my sibo worse (prebiotics like fos etc are actually generally to be avoided for sibo from what I’ve read), and it seemed to piss off my prostate which could be due to the green tea in it. I’ve ordered just plain wheatgrass powder to try instead.

Yea, I wouldn't take fos by itself with sibo. But again, when you take the psyllium and banana flour together you are binding them and eventually eliminating them.. so even if they are getting fed in the small bowel now, it's something that will lessen as they get removed..

 

[bobin]

It’s funny you mention that - I tried taking just some of the Amazing Greens stuff and after a couple of days I was getting extremely agitated at the slighted thing. Usually I’m very calm and laid back, but I was feeling like the slighted thing would send me into a rage - not a nice feeling.

I’ve stopped taking it now as I think it’s making my sibo worse (prebiotics like fos etc are actually generally to be avoided for sibo from what I’ve read), and it seemed to piss off my prostate which could be due to the green tea in it. I’ve ordered just plain wheatgrass powder to try instead.

That's exactly how i was feeling. Good to know its not just me. I am also usually extremely calm and laid back. For a few days i was a nightmare to be around. My colleague at work mentioned how he had never seen me so angry before. In a way it was kind of good to experience extreme emotions like that, as mine are still a bit dulled from PFS but this was a bit too much. I was taking the drink twice a day so backed off to once a day. Today i've been mostly back to my old calm self (Much to the relief of my colleague), so i think i'll carry on with just one a day for a while to see how i get on.

 

[Helen]

@tanedout greens are usually high on iron. when I take iron, I get super angry.

 

[tanedout]

@bobin keep us updated on that! Interested to know if it comes back or not. I also noticed stiff joints - knees aching when walking & almost like arthritis in one foot. That stopped after I stopped the stuff.

Maybe chelating something, or the iron content like Helen says might be a factor

 

[RebelWithACause]

@Ocguy seems like my reaction was just to TEI. Got the classic hard retracing symptoms, sore teeth, gums - metallic taste in mouth. Probably the enhanced digestion kicked them up a bit versus usual.

Have the exact same on TEI on some days. Like there are metals released through your gums.

 

[supernature]

SO ARL and TEI manipulate the membrane so stuff dies. this is why sometimes they make you feel bad. by chelating something or feed you something to kill something.

Looks like they assume one is always broken and all different systems are broken and need repair in any case, while in reality might not all will need repair but they will address it anyway. More like Don Quixote who was fighting with invisible windmills.

 

[Shanks]

Short info about the results after 1 MONTH of doing this protocol:

Psyllium seed husks (Bio Flohsamenschalen)
Green Banana Flour (Kochbananenmehl)
GOS (Bimuno GOS)
Amazing Grass Green (Amazing Grass Green Berry)
Probiotics + Inulin (Probiona PLUS living 120 Bill KBE) Bifidobacterium (B.) bifidum, B. breve, B. infantis, B. lactis, B. longum, Lactobacillus (L.) acidophilus, L. bulgaricus, L. casei, L. crispatus, L. gasseri, L. paracasei, L. plantarum, L. reuteri, L. rhamnosus, L. jensenii, L. fermentum, Lactococcus lactis, Streptococcus thermophilus

I take this stuff 1x daily in the morning like @Ocguy described it on page 1

-- at the moment no effect on my Psoriasis
-- IMO my hairloss sped up (but its really hard to measure; gf said i my bald head is more visible)
+ in the morning this drink gives me an energy boost. I tried taking this stuff also in the evening but after it i couldnt sleep anymore
+ digestion improved:
-> tolerating almost every food
-> i take a shit at least 2x a day
-> i don t need tons of toilet paper anymore (to be exact only one paper)
+ mood changes are positive:
-> also i have big problems in life i am kinda optimistic

I keep doing this for 2 more month and maybe then i ll cange the probiotics and try different strains/products

 

[Ocguy]

Short info about the results after 1 MONTH of doing this protocol:



-- at the moment no effect on my Psoriasis
-- IMO my hairloss sped up (but its really hard to measure; gf said i my bald head is more visible)
+ in the morning this drink gives me an energy boost. I tried taking this stuff also in the evening but after it i couldnt sleep anymore
+ digestion improved:
-> tolerating almost every food
-> i take a shit at least 2x a day
-> i don t need tons of toilet paper anymore (to be exact only one paper)
+ mood changes are positive:
-> also i have big problems in life i am kinda optimistic

I keep doing this for 2 more month and maybe then i ll cange the probiotics and try different strains/products

Overall looks real good.. psoriasis is going to take some time to turn around, stay somewhat optimistic. Thanks for the feedback

 

[Aleksandr]

@Ocguy seems like my reaction was just to TEI. Got the classic hard retracing symptoms, sore teeth, gums - metallic taste in mouth. Probably the enhanced digestion kicked them up a bit versus usual.

That's curious, whenever I go for a long run I get a metallic taste in my mouth. I remember it happening when I was a kid like 8 years old running the cross country at school... from all the way back then even!! @Helen

 

[Aflac94]

Can we drop the amazing grass or sub it, the antioxidants blend had caffeine and gives me migraines

 

[Ocguy]

Can we drop the amazing grass or sub it, the antioxidants blend had caffeine and gives me migraines

Check other powders , have to research the labels

wheatgrass powders - Google Search

 

[supernature]

That's curious, whenever I go for a long run I get a metallic taste in my mouth. I remember it happening when I was a kid like 8 years old running the cross country at school...

Iron is a metal as well, no bleeding gums, no spitting saliva with reddish residues. If is other metal what would be, copper, zinc ..

 

[Aleksandr]

Posted this in my log but thought i'd post here to keep everyone updated on my gut drink protocol (its been about a month now ive been on it)


@Ocguy wtf motherfucker! my tongue is clear! I ate half a massive cake today, all the sugar in the world, soymilk berry smoothie literally 10 minutes before i checked in the mirror, and my tongue is still clear. Ive also noticed i've stopped getting morning breath!! This has only happened once in my life before that I remember, near the end of a 30 day ketogenic diet where I was camping around in the outdoors of Australia.

I've also been super adrenaline charged; my heart racing frequently, sweating like a gypsie with a mortgage. Something big is going on...

 

[Helen]

Posted this in my log but thought i'd post here to keep everyone updated on my gut drink protocol (its been about a month now ive been on it)


@Ocguy wtf motherfucker! my tongue is clear! I ate half a massive cake today, all the sugar in the world, soymilk berry smoothie literally 10 minutes before i checked in the mirror, and my tongue is still clear. Ive also noticed i've stopped getting morning breath!! This has only happened once in my life before that I remember, near the end of a 30 day ketogenic diet where I was camping around in the outdoors of Australia.

I've also been super adrenaline charged; my heart racing frequently, sweating like a gypsie with a mortgage. Something big is going on...

are you taking TEI with this?

if adrenaline is growing, this might mean that Sam-e is freeing up, that is a good thing. may be less pressure on glutathione production from sibo and more methylation.

 

[Helen]

@Aleksandr Also did you test your iron and ferritin in blood? you are post accutane, I am just wondering.

since according to your hairtest, you have too much MR activation going and losing hair.

and you have this metalic taste thing.