ZINC FINGER THEORY DISCUSSION for PFS - 2 cases

[Canari]

people are just waiting for protocols, so there is no SENSE or reason of these threads.

Better said like this....
@TubZy can you please remove me as a mod? So I will not be tempted to spend time on useless things!
I have as a last thing edited some of my posts and merged topics that I had made separated at the beginning of the forum, to have more topics!

 

[HerrFisch]

And when I use chelators now, which I do once a year. for 3 months.

You need to use chelators every year? How do you get this "toxic" in lead again every year?
And how did you find out about that lead? Hair test?

 

[TubZy]

Better said like this....
@TubZy can you please remove me as a mod? So I will not be tempted to spend time on useless things!
I have as a last thing edited some of my posts and merged topics that I had made separated at the beginning of the forum, to have more topics!

Yes, at your request. OK that is is fine

 

[Helen]

You need to use chelators every year? How do you get this "toxic" in lead again every year?
And how did you find out about that lead? Hair test?

I get toxic in lead every year? NO man, it takes years to get it out of your bone. I drank pure lead water for a year. My lead levels are very high

 

[HerrFisch]

I get toxic in lead every year? NO man, it takes years to get it out of your bone. I drank pure lead water for a year. My lead levels are very high

How did that happen? Same as me with old water pipes?
By the way, did you ever post your hair test on here?
I would be interested to see how you changed from test to test and maybe what you did to archive that. (Just for fun & interest. Not to make a protocol out of it haha)

 

[Slayo]

@hairloser

It is good for you to get tested, you are very young. and this is just starting. Many people on this forum would not even see hairloss here.

When I got lead toxicity , I lost all my hair . And when I use chelators now, which I do once a year. for 3 months. I lose most of the hair and it looks crazy. It is very depressing . Hair grows back. But just to tell you

When I use EDTA DMSA. for a month. and when lead goes into the blood. I get grey beard, grey hair and it starts falling out by chunks. IN 20 days it is gone.

And as long as lead is circulating hair does not grow. this is all related to metalothionine. Since it is zinc, cysteine histidine selenium copper. And when lead is in the blood , it just uses up all of those.

When lead goes down, hair grows back, takes 3 months.

So this is to show you how hair works.

Wouldn't be better to use modified citrus pectin instead of dmsa ? It detoxes without stripping minerals, so the biochemistry wouldn't worsen, what's your opinion ?

Also i would appreciate your opinion about people with pfs that got dark veins on the penis, no more bloodflow to the gland during the erection, shrinklage, fibrosis, etc, it is everything reversible ?

 

[Raincoast]

@gbolduev This Lead business, does a low ARL hair test conclusively measure systemic lead? Is it possible to have a low test result, but still be toxic in bone for example? What is best test method here?
Please advise
thanks

 

[wuf]

@gbolduev
I am in Ukaine now.
Should I buy tzar vodka(bolotov balm) and try it?
Do you have any direction for it?
Is it helpfull for stomach?

 

[buffkin14]

I have been taking this for 10 days now I am starting to get pretty solid nocturnal erections again and my normal erections feel hard again. My morning wood is still below pre-PSSD levels but it is better than my baseline by far. I do not wake up with that numb feeling in it any more

I believe this may be curing my PSSD

I will say my sperm is less watery as well, the main thing it has not cured is my volume has not been restored to its previous high levels

I am only concerned that the benefits may revert back to PSSD if I stop taking these medications.

I do not know the long term effects of staying on these medications and do not want to risk something bad so maybe it isn't the perfect cure if the benefits go away after stopping medication

 

[Jaxx]

Awesome news man!. Maybe it would be possible to create a log post so its clear what you are taking and how you are progressing?

 

[wuf]

I have been taking this for 10 days now I am starting to get pretty solid nocturnal erections again and my normal erections feel hard again. My morning wood is still below pre-PSSD levels but it is better than my baseline by far. I do not wake up with that numb feeling in it any more

I believe this may be curing my PSSD

I will say my sperm is less watery as well, the main thing it has not cured is my volume has not been restored to its previous high levels

I am only concerned that the benefits may revert back to PSSD if I stop taking these medications.

I do not know the long term effects of staying on these medications and do not want to risk something bad so maybe it isn't the perfect cure if the benefits go away after stopping medication

Which medications are you talking about?

 

[buffkin14]

the zinc finger stuff I posted a few days ago when I ordered it and what I ordered on amazon links

L-Histidine
L-Cysteine

 

[TubZy]

I have been taking this for 10 days now I am starting to get pretty solid nocturnal erections again and my normal erections feel hard again. My morning wood is still below pre-PSSD levels but it is better than my baseline by far. I do not wake up with that numb feeling in it any more

I believe this may be curing my PSSD

I will say my sperm is less watery as well, the main thing it has not cured is my volume has not been restored to its previous high levels

I am only concerned that the benefits may revert back to PSSD if I stop taking these medications.

I do not know the long term effects of staying on these medications and do not want to risk something bad so maybe it isn't the perfect cure if the benefits go away after stopping medication

Please start a log and outline exactly what you are doing even list dosages, you can use this post as the basis to start it, thanks. You can still post in this thread too but use your log as a starting point

 

[buffkin14]

Please start a log and outline exactly what you are doing even list dosages, you can use this post as the basis to start it, thanks. You can still post in this thread too but use your log as a starting point

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000UV5A2C
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000QVEI1A

1 of each every day

 

[TubZy]

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000UV5A2C
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000QVEI1A

1 of each every day

Thanks but please start a log and list it there as well

 

[Canari]

Thanks but please start a log and list it there as well

Yes, it is needed to separate the real experimentation done from the theory, and if you give details about yourself and your labs, this will allow people to see if they are in the same sace as you, or inn the other case.

Nobody should follow a protocol because it worked for sb else, but because it worked for somebody who is similar! That is why we need the tests for: differenciate the cases....

We are similar AND different at the same time, that is why a forum is useful, not only to ask and receive, but to share trials and results. But sharing is useless if we do not know in which cases we and others are!

 

[joekool]

I have been taking this for 10 days now I am starting to get pretty solid nocturnal erections again and my normal erections feel hard again. My morning wood is still below pre-PSSD levels but it is better than my baseline by far. I do not wake up with that numb feeling in it any more

I believe this may be curing my PSSD

I will say my sperm is less watery as well, the main thing it has not cured is my volume has not been restored to its previous high levels

I am only concerned that the benefits may revert back to PSSD if I stop taking these medications.

I do not know the long term effects of staying on these medications and do not want to risk something bad so maybe it isn't the perfect cure if the benefits go away after stopping medication

This is amazing... please get your own log going so more ppl understand what you're doing, dosages, timing... how you began to feel... Link it in here so we can share... this is amazing information man...

@namaste check this out

Also, @buffkin14 , when you say 'long term effects on these medications' ... as aminos go, they're pretty innocuous because they can be found in food... now, in these cases, they're slightly higher amounts but you're still only taking 1 pill a day... which would never be considered dangerous because, you can get similar amounts throughout the day with chicken breast and milk or a protein shake... though I believe the points of the pill dosage is that your body doesn't have to break down the proteins to aminos... so I can't speak to how you'll react when you finally cycle off but this news is pretty amazing and I'm very excited for you

 

[bruschi11]

I essentially started the original zinc finger protocol last night with Histidine hcl, serine, aspartic for aminos. Mineral supplement, bee pollen, wobenzyme. Will be interesting to see where this goes after a successful RU/Prog run.

I do have cysteine on hand as well but will leave that out at first.

Sick as a dog though with a cold. Need this to end to see how I'm really feeling.

 

[Helen]

Zinc finger first post has 4 treatments in it.

2 patented treatment possibilities for hair loss.

then cysteine histidine possibility.

then feeding pathways possibility.

and then zinc finger full protocol.

 

[K8668B]

Yes, it is needed to separate the real experimentation done from the theory, and if you give details about yourself and your labs, this will allow people to see if they are in the same sace as you, or inn the other case.

Nobody should follow a protocol because it worked for sb else, but because it worked for somebody who is similar! That is why we need the tests for: differenciate the cases....

We are similar AND different at the same time, that is why a forum is useful, not only to ask and receive, but to share trials and results. But sharing is useless if we do not know in which cases we and others are!

I agree with this statement 100%. And i have wondered this myself for sometime now. About there possibly being more than just 1 case for PFS.

This thread is pure gold. I love zinc. Ive been a long time pfs sufferer! For over a decade. Ive been actively fighting PFS and taking my own life back into my hands as of Feb/March 2017. So roughly 10 months. I eat a healthy paleo diet, exercise, do cold showers, and many other things. The cdnuts protocol. Hes good dude too. Thing is, his entire protocol works for me and has changed my life in a positive way. His entire protocol except for 2 things- certain herbs and certain prohormones like super r andro. Besides those 2 things, the rest of the protocol works for me. Many other guys will respond nicely to the herbs and prohormones from what ive seen. Yet i dont respond. This makes me believe that there is more than one case for PFS.

Had some recent setbacks. Before i even read this thread, and about a potential zinc finger protocol, i randomly tried zinc on my own. And it has worked for me! Its not a standalone cure for PFS, but it has helped me alot. I still practice many other healthy habits too though, as they would only help conquer pfs. I just find the timing of all of this somewhat ironic! Good stuff