Accutane recoveries using Finasteride

[Kokodu]

Have you finished your finasteride therapy cnb30?

 

[cnb30]

Have you finished your finasteride therapy cnb30?

Yeah and nothing happened. if anything, I feel worse.

 

[cnb30]

I'm very confused. Why did everyone leave become silent?

 

[MNK99]

I'm very confused. Why did everyone leave become silent?

3. What can be done that I know of:
IN FACT for most people, I would say: ARL/TEI.
-I do not know if your probs are super severe, but if they are: WATER FAST first. ---> many will say: Balance.
-Also, many here are more likely to have PFS and also PSSD (in that order, I think). And so those are looked at more often.
-I think in good health, that ARL/TEI could help those people as well as those that suffer from PAS.
-And even those that have no post-drug disorder, such as Herrfisch. @cnb30
-Fasting, refeed, intermittent fasting, training, great health lifestyle, detox... and lots of other things on here. --> taking similar drugs?? unlikely, unless you really know what you're doing.
-AND the number of ppl taking fin for PAS... is LOW. I took accutane for ACNE (worked perfectly, maybe not myb caused issues too), SNRI for complex reasons, Fin - hair.
-better health protocol.

1. No answer = Unsurety.

2. Why give up?
-I took ALL OF THEM. Never gave up tho. 99% of them, did not use a forum, period. SO: Is it possible and is it worth giving up? Yes to first q, no to second.
-I am NOT talking about using fin for PAS. --> I'm talking about total health, whatever that means to you.
-To me, that means, lean, strong, endurance, GH, Insulin resistance, sex drive, emotionality + therefore motivation + ambition. And feeling myself again, and down aging, etc.

--> I think accutane worsened anxiety, but doubt it caused all issues with me, not same for everyone. Myb some slight frontal thinning but hair loss effectively frozen 6-10 yrs,
minus some meds (i.e. Adderall, LTG later).

 

[IHateFin]

I'm very confused. Why did everyone leave become silent?

hows the zinc treating you???

 

[cnb30]

hows the zinc treating you???

Ok, its effectiveness has decreased somewhat though so I'm taking a second longer break.

 

[cnb30]

3. What can be done that I know of:
IN FACT for most people, I would say: ARL/TEI.
-I do not know if your probs are super severe, but if they are: WATER FAST first. ---> many will say: Balance.
-Also, many here are more likely to have PFS and also PSSD (in that order, I think). And so those are looked at more often.
-I think in good health, that ARL/TEI could help those people as well as those that suffer from PAS.
-And even those that have no post-drug disorder, such as Herrfisch. @cnb30
-Fasting, refeed, intermittent fasting, training, great health lifestyle, detox... and lots of other things on here. --> taking similar drugs?? unlikely, unless you really know what you're doing.
-AND the number of ppl taking fin for PAS... is LOW. I took accutane for ACNE (worked perfectly, maybe not myb caused issues too), SNRI for complex reasons, Fin - hair.
-better health protocol.

1. No answer = Unsurety.

2. Why give up?
-I took ALL OF THEM. Never gave up tho. 99% of them, did not use a forum, period. SO: Is it possible and is it worth giving up? Yes to first q, no to second.
-I am NOT talking about using fin for PAS. --> I'm talking about total health, whatever that means to you.
-To me, that means, lean, strong, endurance, GH, Insulin resistance, sex drive, emotionality + therefore motivation + ambition. And feeling myself again, and down aging, etc.

--> I think accutane worsened anxiety, but doubt it caused all issues with me, not same for everyone. Myb some slight frontal thinning but hair loss effectively frozen 6-10 yrs,
minus some meds (i.e. Adderall, LTG later).

What are ARL and TEI?

Also, I will look into fasting again too.

I'm also a little confused as to what you are saying in a couple parts of your reply. Are you saying to not try finasteride again? Don't worry, after how the last round went, I'm hesitant to touch it again.

 

[cnb30]

In other words:

Yeah do not take again. I said like 25 things there. For others. Keeping it simple: They are hair testing programs that allow you to take mineral supplements based on current oxidation, to bring yourself in line with a more balanced oxidation path. There's some more behind it. The booklets are extremely common sense. AND - I don't believe in it, and yet, I will try. I have other things going on. I mentioned that others, without accutane or fin problems used it too. It is one of many "tools" described on this website.

And What are these booklets?

 

[tanedout]

@cnb30 It's possible this method only works for people who are left with up or down regulated receptors. Not either. You might be left down regulated, and the people who have been cured with this method were up regulated.

If you've tried it twice and got nothing, then look at different methods. Have you tried RSO? Tried drinking a load of licorice tea on weekends, then see if you get a rebound in the week?

TEI/ARL seems like a good place to start though, I've done one already, and I've just sent off another hair sample.

 

[MNK99]

-Exactly I pm'd him as clear as i can be.

-I was just trying to say, that Hair Mineral Test Analysis, and it's 2 versions described on Hackstasis.
-Such as: ARL - Advanced Research Laboratories and TEI (something similar?) Show oxidation rate.
-This oxidation rate as well as levels like "slow, fast, mixed" oxidation can be useful in following their recommended supplementation, to correct nutritional
-and mineral imbalances (and work towards more "balanced oxidation"). Also "4 lows", "4 highs" and "toxic elements" may be useful.

Deficiency and toxicity ( like say for Lead or Uranium) of various minerals, can be shown based on a sample of hair. That is one of the final things I want to do for PFS: Post finasteride syndrome. However, that's just me. It could very well be a starting point for:
- "post accutane syndrome",
- "post finasteride syndrome", or
- "post SSRI/SNRI syndrome",
- "chronic fatigue syndrome",
- and diseases or syndromes requiring chelation of heavy metals... and other things I can't think of right now.

I was not trying to be mean nor rude.

-Anyways, I'm a cynical person, and yet resilient . Because I beat accutane, pssd (for sure had this), and 80-90% of pfs.
-And yes, I am confusing. But most are with my neuro issues.

ANYWAYS, I hope this makes more sense.

 

[cnb30]

I just drank some licorice tea this afternoon, but I saw few results

 

[cnb30]

Isn’t it kinda odd how there were all of these people claiming that Finasteride cured them of many of their accutane problems, and now they all seem to have disappeared? Looking back, I was FINALLY at a point where I was partially recovering from Accutane and then I got the dumb idea to try propecia. Now I’m back to square one. My God, my god, what do I do now?

 

[cnb30]

Hey guys, not gonna lie, trying to cure PAS with Finasteride was like trying to pour gas on a fire. I’m basically at the point I was right after Accutane, and even thinking about ending my life again. Can someone help me?

 

[tanedout]

@cnb30 so why aren’t you trying another protocol, like has already been suggested to you? Electrolytes protocol? RSO? Tribulus? What works for one person doesn’t work for the next, you just have to keep trying stuff.

 

[Helen]

Isn’t it kinda odd how there were all of these people claiming that Finasteride cured them of many of their accutane problems, and now they all seem to have disappeared? Looking back, I was FINALLY at a point where I was partially recovering from Accutane and then I got the dumb idea to try propecia. Now I’m back to square one. My God, my god, what do I do now?

So sorry , man. This is what it usually comes to , people want a fast cure. and try hormones, one mistake in that aspect and a person can get fucked for years.

People keep creating from one problem 2-3-4 -5 . like they get hairloss, they go on fin. they go off fin, get anxiety, go on SRRi. then they go off SSRI go off the SSRI , they go on MAO inhibitors, then they go on steroids.


They seem to not understand that minerals make people. not hormones. Hormones is not molecular biochemsitry, hormones are lower level regulation.

 

[MNK99]

THE V FACT THIS is 20 pages and there's no 20pg SSRI for PFS or FIN for PFS threads (that's 3-5 different reasons rite there) show you logically, this makes no sense.
and that >19/20 people are too lazy, weak, immature, and not wise enough to solve difficult issues. This is not a critique on Hackstasis, but rather humankind at large.
Everyone should aim to be top 1-2 /10000 people in life, or ideally 100000 or 1million but it's super hard to do that. 1/7billion is best...but that's rare.

GOOD DAY WORLD.

I said GOOD DAY.
(FEZ, That 70's show).

Ya'll need TIGER PARENTS.

 

[cnb30]

Thank you all for the previous responses. Judging from the previous posts, I think I am going to do 3 things:

-Fast multiple times for a couple days
-Attempt not to fap for at least a month
-Try some of the protocals mentioned by tanedout.

 

[cnb30]

Furthermore, I’m beginning to realize that abilify isn’t helping at all. You guys have any personal input on that?

 

[cnb30]

DUDE I NEVER TOOK IT BUT IT FUCKED UP A FRIEND AND BASICALLY EV1 I've ever heard of taking it. SATAN DRUG, all those AAP's are.

I’ve been on it for aboit a year, and it has actually helped me with my depression (significantly). Can you elaborate on what side effects you know of? I do feel like it had messed with something, but I’m not sure what exactly.

 

[MNK99]

I know way too much, people don't want to know trust me.

My entire family are doctors, I've researched tens of thousands of hours, there's others here that know what's going on too.

-brain shrinkage

-blackouts
-Akasthesia,
-Tardive Dyskinesa,
-Glucose metabolism problems
-Liver Damage
-Eyesight issues
-Cognitive decline
-Decreased I.Q., while taking the drug (many AAP's),
-Various diseases,
-etc.
-Not permanent if taken young for a tiny amount of time... year after year?? --> horrific.
-and all the vanity side effects too.
-Info is readily available on Google Scholar, or by simply being the type of person who is willing to learn.
-People do not appreciate intelligence, and hence, I will act dumb and tell people nothing.