Accutane recoveries using Finasteride

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3 days is not a fast. 5 days is not a fast. you dont start fasting until day 7.

3-5 days, that is starvation period. the body it trying to get fat adapted

Fasting for 3-5 or even 7 days, IMO worthless.
Which is why I’m continuing not to eat for at LEAST a few more days. Probably more than that at this rate. An yeah, I’m mot having amything more than water too (but I am drinking lots of it).

Also, I should probably add that I’m in architecture school, so I have tons of work/deadlines. Is it practical to fast while in school? At this rate I almost feel worse when I’m not fasting, so probably. What do you guys think?

Lastly, I can only fast until about October 6th when I have to go to my grandad’s 80th Birthday party. My parents would probably be horrified to hear that I’m fasting, but oh well.
 
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Would mean everyone doing intermittent fasting and stuff are wasting their time .... lol
 

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That's more for fitness rather than cleansing tho (IF vs., extended fasting).
 

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Body Recomposition.

I did it bc after burning off like 70-85lb of fat I looked like good but skinny. FOR YRS. And was scared to gain fat. So it put me in fat burning and muscle sparing mode, and stimulated GH and insulin sensitivity rather than resistance, hence less fat gain, more LBM gain and "micro cuts and bulks" rather than full on "bulking and cutting".
Also, less cals = longer life (obviously to a limit). Pure LBM gains. Rather than strong skinny strong less skinny strong fat v strong too much fat, then cutting. As an analogy.

Also I do it for ADHD++. Literally every interview I've ever done fasted = job offer. Despite being like "Huh?!, what am I interviewing for?" A's vs no shows. It just helps me.
Could be psychosomatic but ten yrs+ ?? I don't think so. NE and cortisol helps me get things done (to an extent, too much = bad news). Instead of skipping 99% of classes, I only skipped 30-50% and still learned in gr 12 and two universities and 3 programs. Obviously that's not "all due to IF", but its just a tool. Makes me happier... or usually does, probably bad at times for mood tho. But not doing anything, not using all these tools is worse for me.
-It helps my confidence and ROUTINES (which are essential for my other issues). -So does "liquid sugar" in the morning too a bit... but either or.
-If I took oj, or a coffee, or a stimulant one hr or so before waking up for real ---> day's good. But yeah usually this kind of planning ahead did not occur. It did tho 180days of a year at times.
-But then of course: "Everyone's different, No 2 snowflakes are alike."
-More ripped in 2016 and now than the other yrs combined training. I only trained like 3mo in 2016 maybe more but 3 with professionals.
-I think it's good for "professional hours", like the professions --- no male in my family ate 3-5meals a day usually, not the high earners. In medicine here they work 24hrs 40 hr shifts on call. 72hrs 4-7yrs straight almost at times in surgical residencies. Saves money and time too.
 
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Which is why I’m continuing not to eat for at LEAST a few more days. Probably more than that at this rate. An yeah, I’m mot having amything more than water too (but I am drinking lots of it).

Also, I should probably add that I’m in architecture school, so I have tons of work/deadlines. Is it practical to fast while in school? At this rate I almost feel worse when I’m not fasting, so probably. What do you guys think?

Lastly, I can only fast until about October 6th when I have to go to my grandad’s 80th Birthday party. My parents would probably be horrified to hear that I’m fasting, but oh well.

These short fasts will help you work up to longer ones, telling no one is a good idea, just keep it to yourself.
 

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I’ve reached 90 hours at the moment. I’m shocked by the fact that I feel more energized to do work.
 

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-1. Energy is largely "mental" but that's due to neurosteroids and neurotransmitters, and a lot of other things like proper liver functionality.
-2. The fact you had the luxury to decide, means it's not so bad. I had zero choice but to fast, I did nearly 2 months straight, more** with some messups (hence not counted).
-3. I literally write like 900-1400 words a minute, and I could barely read, stand, shower, shave, talk, etc... so I had no choice. Mental energy came back for sure by 30d... and
-4. I had windows of mental normalcy. It is physiological and psychological, and the psychological aspects of PAS or any iatrogenic illness must not be totally discounted.
-5. But 90hrs is nothing, more than a good starting point. Keep going mate! That's good stuff, but keep at it, bc you may as well.
-6. Start a log if you want.

SCHOOL? Try all school up to eventual doctorate level and high school fasted IF... THIS YR NO but I was sick... till Jan-march or may june really but more before.
ALL work fasted.... I didn't work before 16-18... anyways, ya you can go to school and fast; but no need to mention it esp at uni... ppl will think you're crazy, send you to psychiatrist.
 
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I highly doubt that I’ll reach that length, but Imm planning on going till at least next week so that I can see some positive effect. You guys said that your body begins cleansing itself around day 7. Right? So I’ll probably go 9-10 days.
 

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Also, it seems crazy that there wouldn’t be any long term benefit from fasting at least 5-7 days.
 

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Probably is... just not as much. SO juice same thing... 5-6d I did I did like 17 juice, 13, 6, and 5 water, 6 water, 21 water. BUT the last 3 were consecutive like 1000 cals of meals in 31 days, so 1000 div 3 days, like jack all but more that day. JUICE 200lb to 196... water to like 179lb from 200. BC I immediately gained weight after juice cleanse.
WATER destroyed juice for me. I had like 175-225 ml too, max 3x 380ish ml of juice. AND LOST NOTHING?! I would lose like 1-3lb a week with Alternate Day Fasting, and like 5lb a week when I was 16 (diminishing returns tho, I more fat then to lose). Long term avg probably 1.5-3lb per week if cutting. I try not to cut nor bulk tho, just gentle gains of LBM and decreases of bodyfat.
 
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Probably is... just not as much. SO juice same thing... 5-6d I did I did like 17 juice, 13, 6, and 5 water, 6 water, 21 water. BUT the last 3 were consecutive like 1000 cals of meals in 31 days, so 1000 div 3 days, like jack all but more that day. JUICE 200lb to 196... water to like 179lb from 200. BC I immediately gained weight after juice cleanse.
WATER destroyed juice for me. I had like 175-225 ml too, max 3x 380ish ml of juice. AND LOST NOTHING?! I would lose like 1-3lb a week with Alternate Day Fasting, and like 5lb a week when I was 16 (diminishing returns tho, I more fat then to lose). Long term avg probably .5-1.5lb per week if cutting. I try not to cut nor bulk tho, just gentle gains of LBM and decreases of bodyfat.
I’m basically going to water fast for as long as I can. I reach 100 hours tonight. My goal though is to get as much crap (accutane, finasteride, abilify) out of my system. Do you think that I’ve probably already done that to a degree? I’m getting mixed signals from this group. Some people saying that you don’t filter out amything until day seven, while others say it starts much sooner.
 

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I’m basically going to water fast for as long as I can. I reach 100 hours tonight. My goal though is to get as much crap (accutane, finasteride, abilify) out of my system. Do you think that I’ve probably already done that to a degree? I’m getting mixed signals from this group. Some people saying that you don’t filter out amything until day seven, while others say it starts much sooner.

Seems it could be the 25 to 40 day water fast that do some serious cleaning out (autophagy). But I am sure that one to two week fasts do some good and clear out some PUFA as well.
 

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Seems it could be the 25 to 40 day water fast that do some serious cleaning out (autophagy). But I am sure that one to two week fasts do some good and clear out some PUFA as well.
Jesus Christ, I think it’s going to be an achievement if I reach 9-10 days. 2 weeks!?!?! I don’t think I can do that. 25-40 days!?!?! Out of the question. I don’t think I could survive 40 days.
 

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Jesus Christ, I think it’s going to be an achievement if I reach 9-10 days. 2 weeks!?!?! I don’t think I can do that. 25-40 days!?!?! Out of the question. I don’t think I could survive 40 days.


Did 65 days, in Russia if people fast it is for 40 days. Even kids do it. You will survive.

It is just in the beginning you are not fasting, you are starving, until the body adapts to fats only. it happens after 7-10 days for some, for some after 14 days, and once fat adapted , it is much easier to fast. I mean I swim in the ocean 5k a day while fasting, that is how strong I get.

Sorry but 5 days fast Does nothing. It is not a fast, it is starvation. the body did not even adjust yet at all. it is not cleansing , it is suffering during this period.
 

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NO ONE knows the exact number (maybe with lots of fasts), but it certainly takes longer than you want to hear @cnb30 if problems aren't severe - I wouldn't worry.
 

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Thinking about continuing the fast till a week from tomorrow. I’m at a point where I’m not particularly hungry anyway (or atleast less hungry than I was 2 days ago) so that’s a plus.
 

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Bad news: I’ve had a raging cold for the last few days, and I might need to break my diet just so that i don’t have to take meds on an empty stomach.