Admiral’s PFS Log.. ARL/TEI since march 2018

ruprmurdoch

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Thanks Brus. My TSH has been between 7.5 and 13 this past year, so my thyroid is definitely not working as it should. Maybe that’s the culprit as to why b6 is building up as my body is not able to convert b2 into fmn r5p.

I will take fmn and magnesium, together with the thyro supplement from ARL and hope to cope with the b6 better.

Agree on the HG7 part. I think in it’s core, it’s a powerful protocol, but it’s not a one size fits all protocol. Everybody needs their own tweaks.
tsh is pituiatry hormone, not thyroid
 

bruschi11

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@Admiral wow you have bad thyroid like me.. Also TSH above 4 all the time. Lower free T4, free T3 ok. So I started T4 meds stupid idea. Was taking it 6 months. Can't test reverse T3 here, but because my free T3 went down not up it was clear my reverse T3 was sky hign. My body was refusing speed up metabolism. So I stopped taking it. I have to trust my body. Will never try thyroid meds again ever.
How is your pooping? DO you have poop that looks like dark brown sausage that passes easily or you have laso bile issues so constipation, pale stool etc..?
I think HG7 is disaster if your phase 3 detox is not working. You are pushing like crazy 1 and 2, but all that gets recycled because it can't be eliminated from the body..
Had always somewhat elevated liver enzymes. Only TUDCA was able to lower them to normal ranges.. Probably should take it all the time and higher doses. It's just expensive as fuck...

If you work out things right with egcg zinc based approach. T4 should come up.

My take is t4 is the key to iron availability . The engine really. But as t4 comes up we gotta be able to use our selenium for t3. And that’s where b12 methylfolate lithium choline lot of things come into play here.

One thing I noticed is inositol can raise t3 for me. While inositol is really supposed to feed t4. Something happens there. I think it has to do with making b2 b5 work.

Insulin sensitivity absolutely matters.
 

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@bruschi11 when the thyroid makes T4 it creates a lot of ROS which I think my body can't handle and therefore the body is not making T4 on purpose. Makes sense. My bioavailable copper is low so no SOD... My estradiol is low. So ceruloplasmin will be low and I think hg7 stuff makes it only worse. I feel crazy cold most of the times. YOu don't hear that from guys who do good on hg7 because they had too much copper never low copper symptoms. That's why it works so well for Jacob. I think it would work great for me as well 10 years ago when my estradiol was sky high and copper as well. To bring that to balance, but now when I have so much symptoms of low copper I have to probably figure out something different
 

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I don’t think r5p will do the job it’s just tough in this situation.

getting thyroid working. Iodine wand selenium utilization willl be huge for you.

Try to get oligoscan done I’m sure they are available near u. We can see real truth as to why your thyroid so fucked up.
I spent all my recourses in tests and supplements. Nothing left to spare. Oligoscan could definitely be something for the near future, though.

I desperately want the b6 in Hg7 to work. It needs co factors magnesium and b2, so I’ll focus on that. Would it help to supplement selenium, inositol, kelp, iodine, etc as well?
 

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@Admiral one guy said to me that B6 started to accumulate when he was low in folate and went down when he started taking folate.
 

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I spent all my recourses in tests and supplements. Nothing left to spare. Oligoscan could definitely be something for the near future, though.

I desperately want the b6 in Hg7 to work. It needs co factors magnesium and b2, so I’ll focus on that. Would it help to supplement selenium, inositol, kelp, iodine, etc as well?

Honestly selenium could be a poison if you’re high on it. You may just need something like methyl b12 to use your selenium. Maybe some iodine start really low like 25mcg and go up as tolerated . Maybe some inositol choline. And yea as yura said methylfolate higher dose I use 7mg capsules of mf.
 

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@bruschi11 when the thyroid makes T4 it creates a lot of ROS which I think my body can't handle and therefore the body is not making T4 on purpose. Makes sense. My bioavailable copper is low so no SOD... My estradiol is low. So ceruloplasmin will be low and I think hg7 stuff makes it only worse. I feel crazy cold most of the times. YOu don't hear that from guys who do good on hg7 because they had too much copper never low copper symptoms. That's why it works so well for Jacob. I think it would work great for me as well 10 years ago when my estradiol was sky high and copper as well. To bring that to balance, but now when I have so much symptoms of low copper I have to probably figure out something different

It sucks but it’s not that the body doesn’t make t4 on purpose. We are just sick with deficiency and toxicity so it can’t make t4. And then when this happens oxygen a accumulates in the body.

It’s a fucking disaster and I was developing hypothyroidism while all these people were telling me ozone . And ozone did help at times. But it raised oxygen in body in a bad way. Which was pressuring thyroid.

This is how I lost control so badly in 2023. I was recovering at first then psyche ward did electric convulsive therapy and put me on oxygen. And oxygen kept accumulating in me.

We need thyroid turned on to make superoxide with our oxygen toxicities. And sure that will take our copper but realistically we have to break down oxygen before anything and if copper goes down so be it we feel bad from the ros but it has to happen.

I’m at 50mcg a day of iodine now after starting at 12.5mcg for most of a month.
 
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HG7 is giving me weird symptoms. My left eyelid is constantly twitching. I suspect it’s due to a deficiency in electrolytes, but adding those haven’t helped much.

Either way, I am also looking elsewhere in the meantime. Found this protocol on X:


It’s basically DHT with Estrogen, something Helen also mentioned a lot as a possible fix. Problem for me, however, is to get my hands onto the DHTE and E2C. Being in the Netherlands I can only get those through dodgy and illegal websites. Any other forms I can use?
 

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@Admiral I would stay away from hormones bro. You will push your body more and more out of balance.. I would stick to essential basic micronutrients and trying to make it always more simple. Not more complex. What are your main health issues now? Also look at a bigger picture. Not just on food or supplements/protocols. What is going on in your life? Can you say that you have no other sources of stress of any kind that could keep you in bad health? I am in that situation and no matter what I eat or take. My body will not function properly until I move to different place where nothing triggers PTSD/adrenaline dumps and chronic stress. SO my body can feel truly relaxed and safe and start to heal.. I wish I realized this 10 years ago. Literally lost decade of my life to running in circle and just getting older and more unhealthy..
 

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I did years of nutritional balancing and living a healthy, stress free life. That isn’t going to cure me.

I just realised after 23 years of PFS that all my problems are low E2 related. I tried every hormonal route, except that one. Not to mention the only thing that did anything for me was DHEA, which is basically mostly estrogen.

Read the X-link.

This is the way for me, I’t just impossible to get the stuff, so I am at a loss here.

Took some resveratrol first.
 

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I did years of nutritional balancing and living a healthy, stress free life. That isn’t going to cure me.

I just realised after 23 years of PFS that all my problems are low E2 related. I tried every hormonal route, except that one. Not to mention the only thing that did anything for me was DHEA, which is basically mostly estrogen.

Read the X-link.

This is the way for me, I’t just impossible to get the stuff, so I am at a loss here.

Took some resveratrol first.

Dhea feeds estrone not e2. This is how I got better from dhea too. E2 is pro copper. Estrone is pro iron. But we need the iron for bh4 to work which makes tyrosine for iodine utilization for t4 which is key to A metabolism (copper and iron availability) and b2 to fmn .

Estrone sulfate is VDR. VDR raises phos converting fmn to fad.

Fad raises fumarate in Krebs and methylfolafe in methylation.

As fad turns on the things needs most are potassium magnesium then possibly lithium iodine b12 calcium inositol.

This stuff is way more complex than any of us really understood a long time ago.

My situation is far more complex than rest of us cuz I have bmaa toxicity. I’m in a bad way strongly considering giving up. Just cant take it anymore knowing all this.
 

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I did years of nutritional balancing and living a healthy, stress free life. That isn’t going to cure me.

I just realised after 23 years of PFS that all my problems are low E2 related. I tried every hormonal route, except that one. Not to mention the only thing that did anything for me was DHEA, which is basically mostly estrogen.

Read the X-link.

This is the way for me, I’t just impossible to get the stuff, so I am at a loss here.

Took some resveratrol first.

But that protocol looks interesting for pure pfs. I just saw it on twitter

I mean if you’re a healthy person for most part besides the pfs it’s interesting. I just feel like most of us long term cases need to look at energy metabolism as a whole. As things like thyroid VDR things like that are now failed years later .
 

bruschi11

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Re; estradiol. It upregulate CPS . Carbamoyl phosphate synthase which is key to beta alanine production the key to NMDA essentially.

Thyroid (superoxide) kills it. Peroxynitrate even worse (superoxide + NO).

Shit just gets more confusing.