An old recovery story. Do we have histamine problems

MNK99

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lol I'm about 900 days into nofap and i'm not even joking. but that's without sex though.
i don't really get why you would'nt be able to abstain your self unless you have premature ejaculation. aalthough 2 days ago my big friend was pretty sensitive almost came without any physiqual stimulation


DUDE HOW THE FUCK!!!!!!!

ARE YOU SERIOUS!!! I MAY HAVE TO BUY A CORSET OR CHASTITY DEVICE OR SOMETHING.
 

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"my big friend was pretty sensitive almost came without any physiqual stimulation"

BIG REASON, I KEEP LOSING. AND OR SUBSTANCES. SOMETIMES....... COME BACK FROM GYM... FANTASIZE TOO MUCH..; then it's like 4 hrs or more, then orgasm,
then... masturbate on purpose. BETTER THAN SITTING AROUND MBing to porn, but still.

@Stud

@Helen WHAT AGE SHOULD A KID START MBING? 3-6? IF I WENT TO CHURCH WOULD I HAVE BEEN SAVED????

GOING COMMANDO for confidence, comfort, and reliablility may be hurting nofap for me.
NO FANTASIZE!!!
ALSO AVOID LOOKING AT GIRLS. ONLY FACE EYE CONTACT AND ONLY WHEN NECESSARY>
 
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"my big friend was pretty sensitive almost came without any physiqual stimulation"

BIG REASON, I KEEP LOSING. AND OR SUBSTANCES. SOMETIMES....... COME BACK FROM GYM... FANTASIZE TOO MUCH..; then it's like 4 hrs or more, then orgasm,
then... masturbate on purpose. BETTER THAN SITTING AROUND MBing but still.

@Stud

@Helen WHAT AGE SHOULD A KID START MBING? 3-6? IF I WENT TO CHURCH WOULD I HAVE BEEN SAVED????

GOING COMMANDO for confidence, comfort, and reliablility may be hurting nofap for me.
NO FANTASIZE!!!
ALSO AVOID LOOKING AT GIRLS. ONLY FACE EYE CONTACT AND ONLY WHEN NECESSARY>
I was regurarely at church. I am not convinced of no sex before marriage. More important is the family. If the parents are crazy narcisstic sadistic mofos you have no chance of having a normal childhood and youth. And this will influence you as an adult. I stop here better cause starting to rage.
 

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"my big friend was pretty sensitive almost came without any physiqual stimulation"

BIG REASON, I KEEP LOSING. AND OR SUBSTANCES. SOMETIMES....... COME BACK FROM GYM... FANTASIZE TOO MUCH..; then it's like 4 hrs or more, then orgasm,
then... masturbate on purpose. BETTER THAN SITTING AROUND MBing but still.

@Stud

@Helen WHAT AGE SHOULD A KID START MBING? 3-6? IF I WENT TO CHURCH WOULD I HAVE BEEN SAVED????

GOING COMMANDO for confidence, comfort, and reliablility may be hurting nofap for me.
NO FANTASIZE!!!
ALSO AVOID LOOKING AT GIRLS. ONLY FACE EYE CONTACT AND ONLY WHEN NECESSARY>
lowering E2 helps
 

MNK99

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MY E was very very low post fast and lower after R-Andro. Had to add 4-andro, or was walking around like the bride of frankenstein.

I MAY NEED TO LOWEr OXIDAtiON and just work around society. IN the shadows, is where I am most comfortable.
 

Stud

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DUDE HOW THE FUCK!!!!!!!

ARE YOU SERIOUS!!! I MAY HAVE TO BUY A CORSET OR CHASTITY DEVICE OR SOMETHING.
no yeah you have my word. 2,5 years ago for me
 

MNK99

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I THINK I CAN DO IT. It's just I should have done it at 14 rather than trying at 24+++

DAMN STUD amazing self-control. I dodged whores, drugs, joints, coke, vodka, etc, etc... money... etc... BUT one more thing this and vow of silence (NOT V easy, maybe need to wait on that one). CANT do that in school or work, or most relns. @Stud I'm DAMN IMPRESSED MAN!

VOW of silence can be done with most ppl. (NO facebook no second or third phone, no bars, no talking to randoms). BUT for girls, and work, education... and hell... me alone.... gonna be hard.
 

Stud

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I THINK I CAN DO IT. It's just I should have done it at 14 rather than trying at 24+++

DAMN STUD amazing self-control. I dodged whores, drugs, joints, coke, vodka, etc, etc... money... etc... BUT one more thing this and vow of silence (NOT V easy, maybe need to wait on that one). CANT do that in school or work, or most relns. @Stud I'm DAMN IMPRESSED MAN!
yeah it's really no challange for me or anything. don't really deserve any creddit. I gues it's different from person to person. But i just don't feel the urge
 

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lol I'm about 900 days into nofap and i'm not even joking. but that's without sex though.
i don't really get why you would'nt be able to abstain your self unless you have premature ejaculation. aalthough 2 days ago my big friend was pretty sensitive almost came without any physiqual stimulation
:confused: Whatever works for you of course....
 

MNK99

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I WAS abstinent PRE LOSING VIRGINITY.

YOU GUYS HEAR ICE CREAM TRUCK!!! @HS can I eat ice cream, fast oxidizer???!!!!

 
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Ok ok... wait... later. FOR THE RECORD, my signature auto uploads... I don't know how, someone is reading my thoughts. STOP READING MY THOUGHTS EYYy1!!!!
 
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Is the verdict that histadine will help?
It helps with libido but if it kills your Erection Quality then you'd want to add an antihistamine to it. So like Claritin or Zyrtec to block H1's which dull Erections then the remaining L-Histidine --> Histamine activates the "erection-promoting" Histamine H2/Histamine H3-Complexes!
The role of histamine in human penile erection. - PubMed - NCBI
Br J Urol. 1995 Feb;75(2):220-4.
The role of histamine in human penile erection.
Cará AM1, Lopes-Martins RA, Antunes E, Nahoum CR, De Nucci G.
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Abstract

OBJECTIVE:
To investigate the relaxant action of histamine on human corpus cavernosum in vitro and the erectile response caused by the intracavernous injection of histamine in patients with psychogenic impotence.
PATIENTS AND METHODS:
Human corpus cavernosum (HCC) tissue was cut into strips of approximately 2 cm and suspended in a cascade bioassay. The strips were then superfused with oxygenated and warmed Krebs solution and precontracted with noradrenaline (3 microM). Glyceryl trinitrate, acetylcholine and histamine were injected as a single bolus in the absence or in the presence of mepyramine and cimetidine. For the in vivo studies, histamine (30-60 micrograms) was injected intracavernously as a single bolus into the right corpus cavernosum 1 cm from the balamo-preputial sulcus. Similar protocols were carried out for papaverine (50 mg). The erectile response was divided into four grades: no response, tumescence, partial and full erection.
RESULTS:
In vitro studies demonstrated that histamine (3-100 micrograms) caused dose-dependent relaxation of the HCC strips which was significantly inhibited by cimetidine (5-10 microM). The histamine H1 receptor antagonist mepyramine (1 microM) potentiated histamine-induced relaxation. The co-infusion of both mepyramine and cimetidine did not abolish histamine-induced relaxation. When injected intracavernously in humans, histamine (30 micrograms) caused full erection in 13% of the patients, whereas 87% had partial erection or tumescence. A higher dose of histamine (60 micrograms) caused full erection in 26% of the patients and 74% had partial erection or tumescence. Papaverine induced full erection in the majority of patients (66%). In contrast to papaverine, the duration of erection induced by histamine was markedly shorter (mean 200 and 6.5 min, respectively). The penile erections induced by papaverine were associated with complications such as pain, haematoma and priapism. Histamine did not induce any complications. Treatment of eight male patients with psychogenic impotence with the histamine H1 receptor antagonist astemizol (10 mg orally once daily for 1 week) did not affect histamine-induced erectile responses.
CONCLUSION:
These results indicate that histamine may play a role in human penile erection. The erection-promoting action of histamine is probably due to H2 receptor activation, although another histamine receptor, possibly H3, also seems to be involved. This study suggests that histamine could be a valuable tool in the diagnosis of erectile dysfunction.
PMID: 7850330
[Indexed for MEDLINE]
 

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Been taking 500mgs twice a day and I've noticed improvements. Could be everything coming together finally
 

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Yes Swanson vitamins L-Histidine. Overall improvements in things like erection ease, slight increase in libido. Some better morning wood than others. Still, I'm low dose testosterone too which has been showing great promise. First weekly improvements, now they're slower but noticeable. The histidine might be a helpful catalyst here.
 

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Yes Swanson vitamins L-Histidine. Overall improvements in things like erection ease, slight increase in libido. Some better morning wood than others. Still, I'm low dose testosterone too which has been showing great promise. First weekly improvements, now they're slower but noticeable. The histidine might be a helpful catalyst here.
@joekool I thought I read in a different thread a while ago that you have been getting better and would be posting your protocol soon. Have you already posted it somewhere?
 

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Yes Swanson vitamins L-Histidine. Overall improvements in things like erection ease, slight increase in libido. Some better morning wood than others. Still, I'm low dose testosterone too which has been showing great promise. First weekly improvements, now they're slower but noticeable. The histidine might be a helpful catalyst here.

What is your testosterone supp? Injections?
 

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@joekool I thought I read in a different thread a while ago that you have been getting better and would be posting your protocol soon. Have you already posted it somewhere?


he is on testosterone with progesterone. One raises potassium another raises sodium in the cell. This artificially raises met rate. This is why histidine is tolerated. since histidine retains calcium an copper and slows down the met rate.

Joe never had his hair test, so I dont know what oxidizer he is. If he was a slow oxidizer , then raising artifically the met rate. will retain more calcium copper in the cell. When he quits the hormonal support. he will go into very slow oxidation.

Fin does the same. it artifically raises met rate. and fin raises vitamin D like crazy and increase calcium absorption a lot and then when people quit fin , they end of in really slow oxidation. Some people of course. And also fin downregulates thyroid. since it raises the met rate artifically so body slows down the thyroid


taking progesterone and testosterone, is the same as taking a progestin steroid. Like nandrolone. this is why if PFS people go on nandrolone , while on it. they feel totally recovered withint days, not months. and I mean total full recovery.

Test with progesterone is much safer. though but we need to talk about recoveries while off steroids. not while on them.
 

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he is on testosterone with progesterone. One raises potassium another raises sodium in the cell. This artificially raises met rate. This is why histidine is tolerated. since histidine retains calcium an copper and slows down the met rate.

Joe never had his hair test, so I dont know what oxidizer he is. If he was a slow oxidizer , then raising artifically the met rate. will retain more calcium copper in the cell. When he quits the hormonal support. he will go into very slow oxidation.

Fin does the same. fin raises vitamin D like crazy and increase calcium absorption a lot and then when people quit fin , they end of in really slow oxidation. Some people of course. And also fin downregulates thyroid.


taking progesterone and testosterone, is the same as taking a progestin steroid. Like nandrolone. this is why if PFS people go on nandrolone , while on it. they feel totally recovered withint days, not months. and I mean total full recovery.

Test with progesterone is much safer. though but we need to talk about recoveries while off steroids. not while on them.

My mom read on the internet that menopause woman should use progesterone cream and she wants to buy it. Is it safe or should i tell her not to use it?