Anyone here actually got better from RU?

[noprop]

Good questions... I started with RU the 6 weeks ago, three days at 10mg. I didn't feel much except felt more calm and better mood but got headache on third day (prob prolactin) no other improvements then 6 days later started topical progesterone and did that for 10 days and got a very good benefit and I'd say about 85-90% normal. Definitely a significant improvement and then stopped for four days and then back on progesterone. Benefits dropped off slightly at the end but much better base line. I did noticed more DHT scalp itch and some hair loss but nothing dramatic. No real fatigue but I dose progesterone in evening. And yes, using Muca Pruriens for dopamine. IMO, I think using RU and then progesterone cycle seems like a good plan. It's Light's and others but then I think the RU helps with the reset (although I could be off base.) I have benefited significantly and so has bruschi11.

In which manner did you profit? What sides got much better?

 

[Admiral]

I like your progess @Jack17, progesterone just scares me. Lots on solvepfs and propeciahelp seem to get worse on it. Not just having a groggy week, but lower baselines. Not to mention my estrogen is very low already and progesteron might lower it even further.

 

[Jack17]

In which manner did you profit? What sides got much better?

The sexual sides. That’s 95% of what I’m left with. I still have slight foggy brain that fluctuates but it’s not a problem. Maybe slight more anxiety than before pfs. But the sexual sides are significant.

 

[Jack17]

I like your progess @Jack17, progesterone just scares me. Lots on solvepfs and propeciahelp seem to get worse on it. Not just having a groggy week, but lower baselines. Not to mention my estrogen is very low already and progesteron might lower it even further.

I’ve read those posts. And I would NOT want to endorse something that could cause you to get worse. But I do feel this a valid way to treat this. If we had more guys experimenting with it, then we could be sure. Some potential problems I see are using too much progesterone. It might be better to use like < 10mg daily. And I’d use it topically. I think where u place the progesterone is important. I think the duration of treatment/ cycle should probably be shorter like 4-7 days then off. The off time is really important. You have to control prolactin. But if you over use this treatment, meaning use too much then I think it’s a problem brcause you drive prolactin to far down. For example, I’m on my third day of RU. I feel good but notice that sexual sides are NOT as controlled starting yesterday. But I’m pretty confident it’s too much prolactin.
You could try the RU as I do, wait 6 days and then try a very small amount of progesterone, like 2.5 mg topically to the scrotum for four days and stop. On another note, this is the second time I’ve tried RU. The first time I felt mood boost on second day and headache on third. Headache from increasing prolactin most likely. But no sexual side improvements until I had been on progesterone. This time very prominent benefit on the first day with sexual sided. A lot have experienced a diminishing benefit with each round of RU. But the guys on this regimen have seen better effects on subsequent rounds of RU. There’s got to be a connection, IMO. Good luck!

 

[Admiral]

I might just do that, thanks. You’re actually rubbing it onto your balls though? What’s the thought behind that?

 

[Jack17]

I might just do that, thanks. You’re actually rubbing it onto your balls though? What’s the thought behind that?

I know that sounds crazy! The thought behind that is this: applying hormones topically like progesterone can cause an accumulation of the hormone in the fat tissue. There’s very little if any subcutaneous fat in the scrotum skin. Specifically if you are applying this to your chest everyday then stop on the 14 day. You are probably still releasing some progesterone in you system from what has accumulated in the fat tissue. We think the time off the hormone is important and this fact maybe the reason why some were cured and some were not, IMO.

 

[noprop]

The sexual sides. That’s 95% of what I’m left with. I still have slight foggy brain that fluctuates but it’s not a problem. Maybe slight more anxiety than before pfs. But the sexual sides are significant.

Great job. What sexual sides did you have? Did you got better by just one cycle or did it take you longer? Thx!

 

[5 alpha]

I have a feeling it's a bit overhyped around here, but it could be me. Who here actually got improvements from it that stuck? And what are your improvements?
I have 400mg here, but scanning all the logs and posts about it, I'm unsure on it.

My first cycle of RU at 50mg for three days almost completely reversed every single one of my sexual symptoms. The improvement started a few days after my RU cycle ended and remained for a decent amount of time. They did not stick though and most of benefits faded.

Since that time I ran two more cycles which I received no benefit from. My second cycle was another three day run at 50 MG and my third cycle was a three day run at 100mg.

Of course we dont know why the benefits don't stick but what we do know is that this hit on something really important.

 

[5 alpha]

RU + Progesterone Cycle

Followed with progesterone I think it can be 1000x more effective. I didn't get much out of RU but the prog cycles following it have done the trick. I hope it sticks, but to really tell you what I've experiencing these last 4 days has been pretty incredible.

My prostate is just alive, woken up, uncomfortably high libido.

I'll be doing a write up on what I did and how I've gotten to this point soon.

Did you try a R Andro run after your RU ? or is the prog the first major thing you have tried post RU?

 

[Goose12]

My first cycle of RU at 50mg for three days almost completely reversed every single one of my sexual symptoms. The improvement started a few days after my RU cycle ended and remained for a decent amount of time. They did not stick though and most of benefits faded.

Since that time I ran two more cycles which I received no benefit from. My second cycle was another three day run at 50 MG and my third cycle was a three day run at 100mg.

Of course we dont know why the benefits don't stick but what we do know is that this hit on something really important.

A very similar thing happened to me but some of sensativity stuck and digestion, anxiety, and personality were all permanently improved. After my 2nd cycle my anxiety, digestion, cfs, and personality werections 100%

 

[noprop]

A very similar thing happened to me but some of sensativity stuck and digestion, anxiety, and personality were all permanently improved. After my 2nd cycle my anxiety, digestion, cfs, and personality werections 100%

What about your protocol? Similar dose? How long did you take it when cycling? Thx

 

[Goose12]

What about your protocol? Similar dose? How long did you take it when cycling? Thx

My first cycle was 50mgs for 3 days

 

[5 alpha]

A very similar thing happened to me but some of sensativity stuck and digestion, anxiety, and personality were all permanently improved. After my 2nd cycle my anxiety, digestion, cfs, and personality werections 100%

interesting. I was gone for a little while from this forum but remember your log.

Our experiences during and after our first cycle are pretty much exactly the same. My second cycle did not cure me though like yours.

for you second and third cycle of RU did you do anything different with them such as changing dosage or adding Prog ?

the only thing I did different with my second run on RU was I ran my basic vitamins and herb rotation directly before during and after that cycle. I have wondered since if this somehow had a negative impact on things.

also around the same time most of the results faded from my first RU cycle and all the way through my second cycle I was sleep deprived a decent amount of time through out the week and was under lots of stress. I have wondered if this factored in negatively on my RU trials as well.

anyhow I am by no means done with RU. lol this is just the beginning

 

[Goose12]

interesting. I was gone for a little while from this forum but remember your log.

Our experiences during and after our first cycle are pretty much exactly the same. My second cycle did not cure me though like yours.

for you second and third cycle of RU did you do anything different with them such as changing dosage or adding Prog ?

the only thing I did different with my second run on RU was I ran my basic vitamins and herb rotation directly before during and after that cycle. I have wondered since if this somehow had a negative impact on things.

also around the same time most of the results faded from my first RU cycle and all the way through my second cycle I was sleep deprived a decent amount of time through out the week and was under lots of stress. I have wondered if this factored in negatively on my RU trials as well.

anyhow I am by no means done with RU. lol this is just the beginning

After my first cycle I took l dopa for prolactin, besides that it was a clean cycle. On my second I did the same as you and ran vitamins and herbs.

Have you taken r andro before? Before my first cycle I had finished r andro cycle a month prior. Right now I am running a cycle of androhard by muscle gelz and cycled ru 2 weeks ago and had similar reaction just like my first cycle.

I am starting to wonder if ru works better after an randro cycle.

 

[5 alpha]

After my first cycle I took l dopa for prolactin, besides that it was a clean cycle. On my second I did the same as you and ran vitamins and herbs.

Have you taken r andro before? Before my first cycle I had finished r andro cycle a month prior. Right now I am running a cycle of androhard by muscle gelz and cycled ru 2 weeks ago and had similar reaction just like my first cycle.

I am starting to wonder if ru works better after an randro cycle.

Interesting. Seeing that you did not have any issues with your second RU cycle despite being on basic herbs and vitamins makes me think I am over thinking this possible connection. I don't see how herbs or vitamins could have any bearing on RU adjusting receptors.

I have taken several cycles of Super R Andro over the last 3-4 years. Probable about seven in total. Every One of them helped. The first one a few years ago helped the most out of all. of them.

I actually just got off of a super R Andro run about two weeks ago. I was shooting for a six week run at 300mg but stopped at about 26 days. I was having blood pressure issues. My cardio on it sucked because of higher than normal blood pressure and even while just working out I was getting winded faster. I have felt this way while on R Andro in the past but this time just felt a little more all around unhealthy so I cut it short. Also at the same time, it was not like I was getting a stronger over all reaction in all PFS sides from this post RU super R Andro run like I hoped for. So it was not worth the elevated blood pressure.

On a positive note though I got good results in the gym from this cycle with gains...I am actually back up to my pre PFS weight thanks to this R Andro cycle of 215 pounds and over the last two weeks after coming off the cycle, I have had a half way decent snap back of improvements in all PFS sexual sides.

so curruntly appearance wise I look pre PFS and I am enjoying a little snap back in sides. Nothing like my first RU run but I'll take what I can get...

This was about my 7th DHT prohormone run though and as helpful as Androsterone is for us, i am starting to become a little concerned about long term effects on heart health from continued Androsterone usage. Perhaps im.just being a wimp but getting a little older now it seems like a valid thing to start thinking about. Even two weeks post cycle my blood pressure is still higher than what I want it to be and from what's normal for me.

That's an interesting thought on RU working better after a super R Andro run. Perhaps you have something here. My first RU cycle that gave me great results followed not all that long after doing a R-Andro cycle. Unlike my second and 3rd RU cycles that did not work and did not follow a R-Andro cycle.

You helped me make up my mind. im.ordering more RU so in about 2-3 weeks when I get it I can do a 4th trial

 

[Goose12]

Interesting. Seeing that you did not have any issues with your second RU cycle despite being on basic herbs and vitamins makes me think I am over thinking this possible connection. I don't see how herbs or vitamins could have any bearing on RU adjusting receptors.

I have taken several cycles of Super R Andro over the last 3-4 years. Probable about seven in total. Every One of them helped. The first one a few years ago helped the most out of all. of them.

I actually just got off of a super R Andro run about two weeks ago. I was shooting for a six week run at 300mg but stopped at about 26 days. I was having blood pressure issues. My cardio on it sucked because of higher than normal blood pressure and even while just working out I was getting winded faster. I have felt this way while on R Andro in the past but this time just felt a little more all around unhealthy so I cut it short. Also at the same time, it was not like I was getting a stronger over all reaction in all PFS sides from this post RU super R Andro run like I hoped for. So it was not worth the elevated blood pressure.

On a positive note though I got good results in the gym from this cycle with gains...I am actually back up to my pre PFS weight thanks to this R Andro cycle of 215 pounds and over the last two weeks after coming off the cycle, I have had a half way decent snap back of improvements in all PFS sexual sides.

so curruntly appearance wise I look pre PFS and I am enjoying a little snap back in sides. Nothing like my first RU run but I'll take what I can get...

This was about my 7th DHT prohormone run though and as helpful as Androsterone is for us, i am starting to become a little concerned about long term effects on heart health from continued Androsterone usage. Perhaps im.just being a wimp but getting a little older now it seems like a valid thing to start thinking about. Even two weeks post cycle my blood pressure is still higher than what I want it to be and from what's normal for me.

That's an interesting thought on RU working better after a super R Andro run. Perhaps you have something here. My first RU cycle that gave me great results followed not all that long after doing a R-Andro cycle. Unlike my second and 3rd RU cycles that did not work and did not follow a R-Andro cycle.

You helped me make up my mind. im.ordering more RU so in about 2-3 weeks when I get it I can do a 4th trial

That's great you are going to try ru again. I hope andro renews the effects for you again.

I don't feel the best on andro either. The lethargy is the worst for me, coffee is about the only thing that helps.

Have you ever done a hair test? I know gboldvue says r andro tanks potassium so maybe yours is low and that's why your blood pressure is out of whack. On my first cycle I started to get slight numbness in my arms when I would sleep and Pottassium chloride with whey helped.

 

[eskimojoe]

has anyone had success with GBols clomid/ dostinex protocol?

 

[5 alpha]

Admiral,

I have tried RU 5 times since it we first started doing trials with it. The first time I tired it I ran it at 50mg for three days. The results did not stick and slowly faded. But I can say this:

Everything I have tried for PFS up until that first time I took RU either has done nothing, made me worse or improved me in a "bandage" type of way or by making something about my health stronger to help cope with what no longer functions properly. I have got over all health improvements for sure from CD's methods and will always use these things to feel better and treat this. But that first RU trial turned something back on in my body to the point that it was one hundred percent not a placebo effect. Coming off of the RU for about five-six weeks if I remember correct I kept getting better and better. For me I know that the prog receptors is the answer. It's not even up for debate in my mind. RU works on the Prog receptors and I noticed great improvements in all of the sexual symptoms after coming off of RU.

My results did not last though. A few weeks after what I thought was my recovery I slowly progressed back towards my PFS baseline. When I say I progressed back slowly it was like one layer after another every day going backwards. Also at that like 5-6 week mark post first RU cycle I started experiencing a large amount of stress. I was feeling like 85 percent recovered on all fronts and I got involved in a work related lawsuit in which I was representing my self. I had to meet difficult dead lines in order to make my case survive which required me to pull all nighters. I would get out of work and stay up all night typing what needed to be filed in court. less than one month pulling these all nighters a couple of times a week plus always being stressed about what was going on through out the rest of the week even when I was getting enough sleep went on for over a year. Less than a month in dealing with all this stress which was about 2 months after my first RU cycle all of my results faded. As soon as all the additional stress started the results from my RU cycle started to fade.

I still have a lot going on so I don't have the time to treat PFS like I use to. But I am making some changes to change that. I stopped working and I am on disability now for my back. I am looking to make this my primary focus again. My theory is that stress is involved in this and it some how keeps our Prog receptors either down regulated or up regulated. The guys that recovered on CD' protocol all focused on the mental/stress side things as well as everything else. So that's my plan I want to live completely stress free for little while and than try a RU cycle to see if I can get the same results. I am done with running things like R andro. It has been a great tool but no perm results from DHT pro hormones for me it's all just feeling better while you are one that stuff for me and I question the long term health implications from being on DHT pro hormones.

Anyway, that's my feedback on the RU

 

[Aflac94]

Admiral,

I have tried RU 5 times since it we first started doing trials with it. The first time I tired it I ran it at 50mg for three days. The results did not stick and slowly faded. But I can say this:

Everything I have tried for PFS up until that first time I took RU either has done nothing, made me worse or improved me in a "bandage" type of way or by making something about my health stronger to help cope with what no longer functions properly. I have got over all health improvements for sure from CD's methods and will always use these things to feel better and treat this. But that first RU trial turned something back on in my body to the point that it was one hundred percent not a placebo effect. Coming off of the RU for about five-six weeks if I remember correct I kept getting better and better. For me I know that the prog receptors is the answer. It's not even up for debate in my mind. RU works on the Prog receptors and I noticed great improvements in all of the sexual symptoms after coming off of RU.

My results did not last though. A few weeks after what I thought was my recovery I slowly progressed back towards my PFS baseline. When I say I progressed back slowly it was like one layer after another every day going backwards. Also at that like 5-6 week mark post first RU cycle I started experiencing a large amount of stress. I was feeling like 85 percent recovered on all fronts and I got involved in a work related lawsuit in which I was representing my self. I had to meet difficult dead lines in order to make my case survive which required me to pull all nighters. I would get out of work and stay up all night typing what needed to be filed in court. less than one month pulling these all nighters a couple of times a week plus always being stressed about what was going on through out the rest of the week even when I was getting enough sleep went on for over a year. Less than a month in dealing with all this stress which was about 2 months after my first RU cycle all of my results faded. As soon as all the additional stress started the results from my RU cycle started to fade.

I still have a lot going on so I don't have the time to treat PFS like I use to. But I am making some changes to change that. I stopped working and I am on disability now for my back. I am looking to make this my primary focus again. My theory is that stress is involved in this and it some how keeps our Prog receptors either down regulated or up regulated. The guys that recovered on CD' protocol all focused on the mental/stress side things as well as everything else. So that's my plan I want to live completely stress free for little while and than try a RU cycle to see if I can get the same results. I am done with running things like R andro. It has been a great tool but no perm results from DHT pro hormones for me it's all just feeling better while you are one that stuff for me and I question the long term health implications from being on DHT pro hormones.

Anyway, that's my feedback on the RU

Great post , have you tried mineral balancing or just CDs protocol. Supposedly the mineral balancing could reset receptors like progesterone. Or maybe put the body in a place to react to your subsequent RU trail

Progesterone crashed me not too long ago

 

[TubZy]

Admiral,

I have tried RU 5 times since it we first started doing trials with it. The first time I tired it I ran it at 50mg for three days. The results did not stick and slowly faded. But I can say this:

Everything I have tried for PFS up until that first time I took RU either has done nothing, made me worse or improved me in a "bandage" type of way or by making something about my health stronger to help cope with what no longer functions properly. I have got over all health improvements for sure from CD's methods and will always use these things to feel better and treat this. But that first RU trial turned something back on in my body to the point that it was one hundred percent not a placebo effect. Coming off of the RU for about five-six weeks if I remember correct I kept getting better and better. For me I know that the prog receptors is the answer. It's not even up for debate in my mind. RU works on the Prog receptors and I noticed great improvements in all of the sexual symptoms after coming off of RU.

My results did not last though. A few weeks after what I thought was my recovery I slowly progressed back towards my PFS baseline. When I say I progressed back slowly it was like one layer after another every day going backwards. Also at that like 5-6 week mark post first RU cycle I started experiencing a large amount of stress. I was feeling like 85 percent recovered on all fronts and I got involved in a work related lawsuit in which I was representing my self. I had to meet difficult dead lines in order to make my case survive which required me to pull all nighters. I would get out of work and stay up all night typing what needed to be filed in court. less than one month pulling these all nighters a couple of times a week plus always being stressed about what was going on through out the rest of the week even when I was getting enough sleep went on for over a year. Less than a month in dealing with all this stress which was about 2 months after my first RU cycle all of my results faded. As soon as all the additional stress started the results from my RU cycle started to fade.

I still have a lot going on so I don't have the time to treat PFS like I use to. But I am making some changes to change that. I stopped working and I am on disability now for my back. I am looking to make this my primary focus again. My theory is that stress is involved in this and it some how keeps our Prog receptors either down regulated or up regulated. The guys that recovered on CD' protocol all focused on the mental/stress side things as well as everything else. So that's my plan I want to live completely stress free for little while and than try a RU cycle to see if I can get the same results. I am done with running things like R andro. It has been a great tool but no perm results from DHT pro hormones for me it's all just feeling better while you are one that stuff for me and I question the long term health implications from being on DHT pro hormones.

Anyway, that's my feedback on the RU

Good post but read my posts in @jinstewart thread about RU. I posted multiple studies showing very high doses are needed to make a change to get it across the blood brain barrier along with making lasting improvements with PTSD after ceasing RU. So if you were going to try again you would at least need 800mg (instead of 50mg) per day taken in one dose. Maybe you could try that and see if it sticks better next time