Cnb30’s Post Accutane and PFS log.

[SwaZ]

So I’ve started a partial Electrolyte protocol with
-Betatine HCL
-digestive enzymes
-potassium Chloride
-Amino Acids

I would add MgCl and NaCl to that as soon as possible. Then you can tinker with the dosages and ratios and later maybe even add calcium to find what fits you.
Also some b's suplement could be helpfull.

 

[cnb30]

I would add MgCl and NaCl to that as soon as possible. Then you can tinker with the dosages and ratios and later maybe even add calcium to find what fits you.
Also some b's suplement could be helpfull.

Isn’t NaCl just regular salt?

 

[MNK99]

-Himalayan Pink Sea Salt has all three , but yes that is correct. --and yeah for large quantities you will want liquid versions (easier to measure and keep consistent dosing).
-Regular Table Salt is NaCl.
-I bought some KCl from a shop here, and also this MgCl online... --> https://amzn.to/2NIeDon

 

[SwaZ]

Isn’t NaCl just regular salt?

Yeah lol, but use Himalayan pink salt if you can

 

[cnb30]

Bad news, I’ve seen little effect so far from the protocol, and I am going to be unable to do any long term fasts due to shear workload. I will try to do this another time if I am still alive.

 

[HerrFisch]

So you did the "protocol" for 2 days and didnt see improvements ? What will you do another time, fasting or protocol ?

 

[Orion]

Bad news, I’ve seen little effect so far from the protocol, and I am going to be unable to do any long term fasts due to shear workload. I will try to do this another time if I am still alive.

Electrolyte protocol is not an overnight cure, it takes week to months, along with using hairtest minerals.

I am at 1year following helens advice(including a 54day long fast), about 6 months doing full electrolyte protocol, then aminos/ARL minerals, and now 2 months doing current high dose B vitamins, with improvements coming in monthly jumps. The last month has seen the greatest improvements, I am coming very close to 100% renewal of my health. It takes time

Two time accutane user(two full courses).

Keep up with the fasting, and get a hairtest, and stick with electrolytes.

Accutane massively depletes B1 and B2, look into doing high dose B vitamins, it took me 2 months to see results.

 

[cnb30]

So you did the "protocol" for 2 days and didnt see improvements ? What will you do another time, fasting or protocol ?

I thought that people usually saw at least some effect within a few days.

 

[Orion]

I thought that people usually saw at least some effect within a few days.

I think the biggest quick results come from fasting, in my experience. But the other approaches which rebuild from the refeed are extremely important, and take time to accomplish. fasting destroys, refeed(electrolytes, hairtest minerals, vitamins) rebuild.

 

[HerrFisch]

I thought that people usually saw at least some effect within a few days.

But 2 days.. come on
How much K, Mg, Na ... did you try ?

 

[tanedout]

Accutane massively depletes B1 and B2, look into doing high dose B vitamins, it took me 2 months to see results.

Did you use active or non active forms of B1, B2?

 

[MNK99]

-6-7 months if you train insane... and eat cleaner than everyone you've ever seen -- for electrolytes. Fasting 1mo +.
-Half ass things, one year for Electrolytes, diet, exercise, avoidance of negative things.
-Life's hard in summary.

 

[Helen]

I thought that people usually saw at least some effect within a few days.

Follow what @Orion is doing.

2 days on Electrolytes protocol? LOL you will feel it within 2 weeks. It takes only 3 days for the kidneys to adjust one mineral

 

[brix]

FYI If you’re taking betaine hcl it can cause worsened mood in some. Maybe start low and build up.

 

[MNK99]

--I know you're in school... but I've been to school... with PSSD, with mania, hungover, on drugs, drunk, fucked up, feeling like dying maybe 2 yrs straight....
-still felt pretty good at times - but ignorance is bliss. I was self medicating all kinds of shyt. The 6mo before my second Uni... I worked my ass off and got in better shape than pre effexor. Or maybe that was the next yr, cuz I wrote off an entire year. It was a nitemare*10000.
--Regimented Discipline 1-2 hrs a day, and going to school feeling not bad, ok, then good, then great... makes it way way easier. Luckily I transferred and had 6mo after quitting Effexor at my second school... maybe 9mo but 3of those mo I was fucked up no doubt (UK, and Toronto, etc).

 

[Orion]

Did you use active or non active forms of B1, B2?

I use only non-actives, and no methyl: B12 or folate.

 

[tanedout]

I use only non-actives, and no methyl: B12 or folate.

Any specific reason for going for the non-actives? I've always been under the impression the actives were the best option

 

[Helen]

Any specific reason for going for the non-actives? I've always been under the impression the actives were the best option

you want your body to get balanced, actives will substitute some minerals. and cause imbalances. You need to teach your body to make everything itself

 

[cnb30]

FYI If you’re taking betaine hcl it can cause worsened mood in some. Maybe start low and build up.

Shoot I think I’m having that problem. I’ve been feeling really depressed the past 24 hours.

 

[brix]

Shoot I think I’m having that problem. I’ve been feeling really depressed the past 24 hours.

Try dropping it for 4-5 days and see how you feel.