Cnb30’s Post Accutane and PFS log.

[bruschi11]

That's not a snarky remark. It was a remark that you should be happy about and jumping for joy bud. If your pituitary were actually screwed up you'd need brain surgery. There's no fix for that.

Have both hair test and organic acids. Stool test could help too.

I understand the severity of the issue. I spent 7 months in bed including two weeks in mental asylum where I knew I was going to kill myself. We realized I had a horrible pathogen issue with testing and then I went on my road to getting better.

Removing systemic infections like pathogens, yeasts along with their toxic wastes (and possibly the need for restoring gut w/ beneficial bacteria) + balancing the system and fixing organs with nutritional balancing while making sure fats/aminos are in good order too is best way of going at these deep systemic issues like PFS/CFS.

You're from Philadelphia. I'm sure you can read English (unlike many others from other countries who can't.) Read my log, read @Goose12 log, @Orion , @Niles @Boris . There aren't many pathogen guys here on this site like myself but "ihatepropecia702" over on propeciahelp is a great read.

You have to realize that all finasteride did was mess with a hormonal pathway that caused many imbalances in system while allowing "the bad" in the body to thrive.

 

[cnb30]

That's not a snarky remark. It was a remark that you should be happy about and jumping for joy bud. If your pituitary were actually screwed up you'd need brain surgery. There's no fix for that.

Have both hair test and organic acids. Stool test could help too.

I understand the severity of the issue. I spent 7 months in bed including two weeks in mental asylum where I knew I was going to kill myself. We realized I had a horrible pathogen issue with testing and then I went on my road to getting better.

Removing systemic infections like pathogens, yeasts along with their toxic wastes (and possibly the need for restoring gut w/ beneficial bacteria) + balancing the system and fixing organs with nutritional balancing while making sure fats/aminos are in good order too is best way of going at these deep systemic issues like PFS/CFS.

You're from Philadelphia. I'm sure you can read English (unlike many others from other countries who can't.) Read my log, read @Goose12 log, @Orion , @Niles @Boris . There aren't many pathogen guys here on this site like myself but "ihatepropecia702" over on propeciahelp is a great read.

You have to realize that all finasteride did was mess with a hormonal pathway that caused many imbalances in system while allowing "the bad" in the body to thrive.

I’m already doing an Anti-Vitamin A and no dairy diet to deal with Accuntane problems, could this be making the finasteride problems worse?

 

[cnb30]

Bad news, I've just came to the realization that my overall state of well-being has plummeted significantly the last couple months. I hope to either recover, or hopefully die soon if I am unable to recover. Most importantly, I seem to have lost the capacity to appreciate architecture and beauty (the couple things which were keeping me from killing myself).

 

[bruschi11]

Bad news, I've just came to the realization that my overall state of well-being has plummeted significantly the last couple months. I hope to either recover, or hopefully die soon if I am unable to recover. Most importantly, I seem to have lost the capacity to appreciate architecture and beauty (the couple things which were keeping me from killing myself).

You need to get ahold of yourself man. You are very young and certainly have an amazing life ahead of you. Just take the time you have now to get yourself better. It may take some time and hard work but it will be worth it in the end. Quitting should never ever be an option.

I hate myself at times knowing that suicide was once a major option in my life. You never give up. No matter how bad it gets, you only receive one shot at life on this planet. It could be an amazing life one day if you make it that way.

 

[MNK99]

--DUDE. I'm a writer, into some other profession (unless change my mind), trading. A great conversationalist, could barely see, let alone stand, or eat. FROM PFS. --> Could not write, talk, study, trade?? couldn't do anything until fasting. Possibly TEI for some. --I took accutane and fin and effexor (worst drug for mood disorders, tho... accutane and fin are pretty bad too).
-seroquel, cocaine, 20000 drinks. im still here. From 19-27 i was prolly awake 2 years more than a person should be, if not 3. NOT to mention a year after fin.

-I took A LOT of drugs. Im like 95% better, and haven't crashed in over a year.
-I gave you advice.
--I'm performing well on cognitive tasks, running my own business (for now...), and fitter than ever.
-I was SUICIDAL almost a year.
--It's HARD, but it's not over.
---Appreciate architecture? I wanted to end it. You're 22, you don't know what the fuck you want. --- maybe you do. BUT it will change. life is a series of changes.
--when you fix half of this or all soon after, you'll be able to conquer other obstacles, far easier. and succeed better than you imagined. things that make others tense/ panicked, you will be stoic and unmoved through it all.
--YOU can't give up.

-So school/ work is bad rite now? So what. It's bad for everyone even successful people at times, let alone without PAS/PFS/PSSD.
-I could barely look at a girl 6-12mo ago or something. I've gotten laid, moved to a cheaper city, had to deal with my narcissistic family...
-and now am earning 200x more than what i did before. AND ill get into a tier one professional school (and probably go).

--i hate people again, but they love me and I love me. you need to deal with it, so you can love yourself again. then it becomes easier. don't ever give up on yourself.
-find someone to confide in, or just keep working thru it. if suicidal, please go to a hospital or ask Helen/ others here. -If really bad, hospital.
-Fine i love some people.

-I've been down, really really down. numerous times before PFS. And it was heartwrenching. Even worse with PFS. but that's over. I'm practically the same now as I was before. --I haven't updated my log, as I said I'd wait till TEI round 2 was done, and clearly I'm highly distractible and working on various things right now (that require intense focus to finish on time, let alone successfully).

-I mean it's ok to feel bad obviously. I'm not one to tell someone how they should feel (I think that's wrong). But, what if someone has been thru this twice or is twice your age... that means, it's over??
-it's not over, till you decide it is.
--I can make better choices now. For BPII and other shyt, I'll just use TEI or whatever comes next. --I can wait, I could get it right now too if I wanted, but for other concerns.
--> Suffering is way worse than working like hell to fix it.

-Don't read any other forum/ discord about this (despite that mostly being trolling rite now, it isn't always).

-Like you, I lost who I was. More than once. And it was a living hell. And each time, I came back stronger than ever. Not to sound cocky, it was close at times.
-However, I'm glad I stuck it thru.

--Takeaway: Never Give Up On Love, man.

 

[cnb30]

You need to get ahold of yourself man. You are very young and certainly have an amazing life ahead of you. Just take the time you have now to get yourself better. It may take some time and hard work but it will be worth it in the end. Quitting should never ever be an option.

I hate myself at times knowing that suicide was once a major option in my life. You never give up. No matter how bad it gets, you only receive one shot at life on this planet. It could be an amazing life one day if you make it that way.

Look, I get that you're trying to be motivational and all, but it seems like every older person I talk to has only worsened. Not sure how I'm supposed to stay positive.

Also, something is DEFINITELY pumping insane amounts of prolactin into my head non-stop, and I don't know how to stop it. It's distracting me from literally everything else in life and I don't know what to do. It's like a cool mist is seeping from my pituitary gland (It is coming directly from my gland because the feeling is coming directly from the position in my head where the pituitary gland is located) and constantly making me high (I guess you could say), and I can't stop it.

 

[Walker]

Look, I get that you're trying to be motivational and all, but it seems like every older person I talk to has only worsened. Not sure how I'm supposed to stay positive.

Also, something is DEFINITELY pumping insane amounts of prolactin into my head non-stop, and I don't know how to stop it. It's distracting me from literally everything else in life and I don't know what to do. It's like a cool mist is seeping from my pituitary gland (It is coming directly from my gland because the feeling is coming directly from the position in my head where the pituitary gland is located) and constantly making me high (I guess you could say), and I can't stop it.

You can always choose to be positive, my man. And not everyone gets worse.....that's the most generalized statement I've ever heard in my life.

Life sucks right now. I get it - I've been there. But what exactly does dying do? Let something else write the last page of your book instead of you? I'd take 5 years of SHIT over being dead in a heartbeat.

What are you doing currently to treat your condition? Might be time to change the game up and proceed down a different path.

 

[cnb30]

You can always choose to be positive, my man. And not everyone gets worse.....that's the most generalized statement I've ever heard in my life.

Life sucks right now. I get it - I've been there. But what exactly does dying do? Let something else write the last page of your book instead of you? I'd take 5 years of SHIT over being dead in a heartbeat.

What are you doing currently to treat your condition? Might be time to change the game up and proceed down a different path.

You can always choose to be positive, my man. And not everyone gets worse.....that's the most generalized statement I've ever heard in my life.

Life sucks right now. I get it - I've been there. But what exactly does dying do? Let something else write the last page of your book instead of you? I'd take 5 years of SHIT over being dead in a heartbeat.

What are you doing currently to treat your condition? Might be time to change the game up and proceed down a different path.

I'm currently doing the anti-vitamin A diet, not eating dairy, and working out heavily (running, lifting weights).

Also, I'm thinking about doing another brief fast (like 5 days), not for any kind of long term benefit, but simply to mitigate whatever I'm dealing with at the moment.

 

[cnb30]

Also, I think that part of what I’m dealing with now might me a side effect from the supplement regimen I did after fasting last fall.

 

[Walker]

I'm currently doing the anti-vitamin A diet, not eating dairy, and working out heavily (running, lifting weights).

Also, I'm thinking about doing another brief fast (like 5 days), not for any kind of long term benefit, but simply to mitigate whatever I'm dealing with at the moment.

I saw where you made some pretty good strides in your log prior while running a form of Helen's electrolyte protocol. Why not go on the more specialized type of treatment similar to this, like an ARL/TEI? Still avoid Vit A due to the accutane reasons, but also supplement the ARL/TEI recommended diet for you and supplements? Also, maybe dial down the workouts just a tad and do maybe four heavy lifting days a week, and one sprinting day until you build yourself back up.

If money's an object for ARL/TEI, I can understand that. Maybe look at ways to get a loan or something......I know this sounds daunting, but there's not a price in the world that is too high to pay to get your health back. I would also recommend CDsnuts protocol, which is how I beat PFS, but I don't know the track record of success it has for PSSD on top of PFS.

Bottom line, I'd do something more proven, or at least add something more proven into your regimen before you hope to die, my friend.

 

[bruschi11]

Look, I get that you're trying to be motivational and all, but it seems like every older person I talk to has only worsened. Not sure how I'm supposed to stay positive.

Also, something is DEFINITELY pumping insane amounts of prolactin into my head non-stop, and I don't know how to stop it. It's distracting me from literally everything else in life and I don't know what to do. It's like a cool mist is seeping from my pituitary gland (It is coming directly from my gland because the feeling is coming directly from the position in my head where the pituitary gland is located) and constantly making me high (I guess you could say), and I can't stop it.

That's not being motivational its being realistic.

Look- what you have to understand is this. You were born in a weird era where medicine got to a very scary point due to the economics and financial success companies were having with it. Company's like Merck legitimately took over the health care system and millions of lives have been ruined by these types of companies.

You are one of them no doubt about it. I was one of them. Is what it is.

We are now at a point in history where things are turning. They have to- with the advent of internet era and social media... people are talking. And people are learning.

Most importantly- people are starting to understand how to fix others of deep deep horrible horrible illnesses such as Autism. Such as Fibromyalgia. Such as MS. Dare I say it such as Cancer. Diseases with "no cures."

Post pharmaceutical disorders like the one you are suffering will one day have their place where experts who deal with patients and have far higher success rates than the diseases I list above this paragraph. Its not going to be that hard to fix these people once you have actual experts getting paid good money to fix people.

In the long run, we'll understand how simple it really is to put together a treatment plan for the type of person like you, like me, like all of us here. Its 2019 but by 2029 we'll certainly be there. If not 2024.

With all that in hand- just be lucky that you're here and on the internet in this time period and the year is 2019. You have 15 years of knowledge about your illness out there in the history books/ internet. You have a collection of people who are really zoned in on how to get these people better. People who can give you really really good advice.

But it takes a lot of self-think. You need to watch your body. You need understand how your body reacts to things. You need to have a job and financially afford the possible treatment plans. Like a hair test, possible blood work, organic acids, and stool tests all if needed.

Health in the human being isn't the hardest problem to solve in this day in age. It really isn't and this world losing a young person like you would be atrocious for such the stupidest of reasons.

 

[bruschi11]

--DUDE. I'm a writer, into some other profession (unless change my mind), trading. A great conversationalist, could barely see, let alone stand, or eat. FROM PFS. --> Could not write, talk, study, trade?? couldn't do anything until fasting. Possibly TEI for some. --I took accutane and fin and effexor (worst drug for mood disorders, tho... accutane and fin are pretty bad too).
-seroquel, cocaine, 20000 drinks. im still here. From 19-27 i was prolly awake 2 years more than a person should be, if not 3. NOT to mention a year after fin.

-I took A LOT of drugs. Im like 95% better, and haven't crashed in over a year.
-I gave you advice.
--I'm performing well on cognitive tasks, running my own business (for now...), and fitter than ever.
-I was SUICIDAL almost a year.
--It's HARD, but it's not over.
---Appreciate architecture? I wanted to end it. You're 22, you don't know what the fuck you want. --- maybe you do. BUT it will change. life is a series of changes.
--when you fix half of this or all soon after, you'll be able to conquer other obstacles, far easier. and succeed better than you imagined. things that make others tense/ panicked, you will be stoic and unmoved through it all.
--YOU can't give up.

-So school/ work is bad rite now? So what. It's bad for everyone even successful people at times, let alone without PAS/PFS/PSSD.
-I could barely look at a girl 6-12mo ago or something. I've gotten laid, moved to a cheaper city, had to deal with my narcissistic family...
-and now am earning 200x more than what i did before. AND ill get into a tier one professional school (and probably go).

--i hate people again, but they love me and I love me. you need to deal with it, so you can love yourself again. then it becomes easier. don't ever give up on yourself.
-find someone to confide in, or just keep working thru it. if suicidal, please go to a hospital or ask Helen/ others here. -If really bad, hospital.
-Fine i love some people.

-I've been down, really really down. numerous times before PFS. And it was heartwrenching. Even worse with PFS. but that's over. I'm practically the same now as I was before. --I haven't updated my log, as I said I'd wait till TEI round 2 was done, and clearly I'm highly distractible and working on various things right now (that require intense focus to finish on time, let alone successfully).

-I mean it's ok to feel bad obviously. I'm not one to tell someone how they should feel (I think that's wrong). But, what if someone has been thru this twice or is twice your age... that means, it's over??
-it's not over, till you decide it is.
--I can make better choices now. For BPII and other shyt, I'll just use TEI or whatever comes next. --I can wait, I could get it right now too if I wanted, but for other concerns.
--> Suffering is way worse than working like hell to fix it.

-Don't read any other forum/ discord about this (despite that mostly being trolling rite now, it isn't always).

-Like you, I lost who I was. More than once. And it was a living hell. And each time, I came back stronger than ever. Not to sound cocky, it was close at times.
-However, I'm glad I stuck it thru.

--Takeaway: Never Give Up On Love, man.

So proud of you man. You were really the first person I talked to after I got a lot better. We had that phone call and I was in my car.

I was like this kid's brain is just racing I can feel it. I knew you weren't well at all. But you believed in my story, you believed in yourself most importantly. I think it was easy for both you and I to believe due to our experiences earlier in life. For you PSSD was something for you that although wasn't as bad as PFS, you came back from it pretty quickly when you were younger. For me it was preg/t3/testo and how that legit transformed me.

We had literally both been transformed earlier in life due to health type stuff and witnesses of how strong the body can be. So we believed and it all worked out.

Its hard for me to judge people when they don't believe. They never had the experiences people like you and I had before PFS @MNK99 and I just think we were lucky to have them. Cuz PFS is this crazy animal and yes myself @MNK99 @Walker .... we get it @cnb30 this sucks so bad but you can get better. Hang in there bud.

 

[cnb30]

In order to do TEI, do I need the approval of a doctor?

 

[brix]

In order to do TEI, do I need the approval of a doctor?

No. You just buy the kit online and it is sent to your home.

 

[cnb30]

No. You just buy the kit online and it is sent to your home.

I can’t find the kit on their website. Also, which test do I do? The Mineral Analysis test?

 

[brix]

I can’t find the kit on their website. Also, which test do I do? The Mineral Analysis test?

They don’t sell it directly. Try www.evenbetterhealth.com. Order Profile 2, which comes with mineral analysis and supplement recommendations.

 

[cnb30]

Good news, I started taking Amino Acids and Potassium 99 Chloride again today, and have felt a peace of mind I hadn’t in 9 months.

 

[cnb30]

Unfortunately it went away after maybe an hour.

 

[cnb30]

Good news, I have been experimenting with HCL pepsin, and ubiquinol Coq10, as well as continuing the no dairy and Vit A diet, and I appear to have made some progress mentally. There have been a few occurrences lately where I am enjoying things to a regular degree again!

 

[Goose12]

This is what I use Hair Analysis (TEI Profile 2) - Test 38 Minerals & Toxic Metals