Creatine

[MNK99]

It's BC vaporization (vaping) or combustion and vaporization plus the chemicals creates by smoking (in smoking). And it barely lasts... So therefore you have: a FAST ONSET (SUPER FAST) of the RUSH coupled with a short peak effect duration, this makes for an extremely addictive habit.

It's why smoking heroin or coke would be worse than insufflation. And anything except maybe injection (can kill in coke and heroin so in that sense injection is worse).

It's instantaneous gratification and stimulation, that is fleeting. But of course it's never truly satisfying. Unlike natural highs (sex, running, winning, money, friendship, making a family, etc).

All that bullshit.

 

[Jaxx]

@Jaxx

Actually, I remember some people got POIS from smoking POT. A lot of people do get it from POT.

and then some of them restore from cocaine ))

I knew people that got crazy crash from smoking pot, and this caused PSSD POIS PFS, with POIS crazy anxiety , total crash.

And then all these people recovered doing coke.

I know since in trading company in NYC it was gazzillion of people traders and most of them were either on pot or coke. And then they would switch around LOL

It was really funny


those who smoked pot, crashed from pot and could not touch pot anymore. but then several cycles on coke and they could smoke pot again LOL

Think it was the vapp protocol (pfs) that used creatine and zinc on alternating days. I only tried it briefly but it did gave me consistent morning wood. The on-off thing is quite interesting stuff.

 

[Helen]

I was biggest head case in baseball growing up. Very talented, but I just couldn’t ever find consistency. 2/15 one week, 10/15 the next. Never a .350 hitter at once but lifetime yes. It was either .600 or .150.

Smoking pot in late teens, early 20s just calmed me to find consistency. Without practice in summer leagues I finally became consistent hitter. I smoked before every game. College kid, enjoying life- it just calmed me the f down, allowed me to enjoy that game.

@Slayo mentioned pots role on potassium. He says it lowers it? I don’t know- all I can say is I’m not doing as well on it as I used to and I’m tapering it’s use. Not going to stop completely, but I’m realizing I gotta lower it’s use to help me out of this health hole I’m in.

You have to completely quit it. smoking POT is like taking SSRI

 

[RebelWithACause]

Offtopic:

22:20

Hairtest with MMA fighters. This is exactly what Helen talked about.

 

[Helen]

Offtopic:

22:20

Hairtest with MMA fighters. This is exactly what Helen talked about.

yeah, bud , the sooner people realize that maximum strength is in the balance. And not unbalance. The sooner people wil concentrate on balancing.

it is so much easier to just take something and increase on side and forget about another side.

but MMA and sports is not bodybuilding which is static. bodybuilding is weak. mma fighters need their body to work in all aspects, Muscles has very little to do with it.
This is why that industry and the smartest people in it, trying to get to balance now. I know some people who work with russian mma fighters these days. All use balance these days.

 

[Helen]

@RebelWithACause Who is going to win ,Khabib or Conor?

 

[jaa]

@RebelWithACause Who is going to win ,Khabib or Conor?

Showed up for the drug discussion, commenting on MMA.

It's a close fight. Khabib could maul Conor or Conor could quickly KO Khabib. I think both are relatively unlikely. Early on, I think Conor's going to be too sharp with his footwork, distance control, and strikes and Khabib will have trouble getting his hands on him. I'm expecting Khabib to get lit up a little early, but if he can get a hold of Conor by the mid stages of rds 1 and 2 I think it's big trouble for Conor. Khabib has to collapse that range against McGregor without getting too fucked up though in the early goings. That's a tall ask. I'm leaning slightly towards McGregor now because of that, but can't really argue against someone giving a slight edge to Khabib.

It's gonna be a great fight.

 

[Nina]

People take so much shit , that is hard to figure what imbalances are created

Like me, I took fin, and then they put me on SSRI. and also I completely went off alcohol and cigarettes.

This is why it is so hard, you fix one thing, and then get hit by other thing.

like I remember anything that fixed my energy, causes POIS crashes. When I got the energy down, POIS was gone

This is why I rec people TEI, since only long term balancing can take care of the problems.

Otherwise it is going back and forth constantly

Another way , is something like electrolytes protocol , just feed everything , all electrolyte all shilagits, all minerals and let the body eventually balance. Something what CDnuts did.


of course if someone can figure out all his imbalances and clear those with contrarian endocrinology then yes. that can work, but so hard to do.

Like I was also put on inhaler for astma ( ventolin) during my crash from FIn. that screwed up my adrenaline receptors like crazy.

then I went off of it. and I had zero energy, since I had no cortisol and not sensitive adrenaline.

And I could not take any magnesium. One magnesium pill make me feel like shit.

But I went ahead and cycled it for 2 weeks, I had very very bad effects from it, |but when I came off, boom, It seems my adrenaline was working better. and energy came back

does the same thing happen with caffeine? As in coffee. Does it always downregulate adrenaline receptor

 

[bruschi11]

You have to completely quit it. smoking POT is like taking SSRI

Done deal.

 

[Helen]

does the same thing happen with caffeine? As in coffee. Does it always downregulate adrenaline receptor

Possible yes

 

[MNK99]

- Is the issue with Caffeine related to this?

- "Adrenal Fatigue" lower thyroid hormones potentially? serotonin effects potentially? Worsened health state bc, less energy then.
- ^Cortisol and ^NE as well. Stress state, i.e.
- "Exhaustion Phase", in TEI?

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-The only "hard drug", is a state of mind. AND MONEY.
-AND: Pharmas.

 

[Namelk]

I was biggest head case in baseball growing up. Very talented, but I just couldn’t ever find consistency. 2/15 one week, 10/15 the next. Never a .350 hitter at once but lifetime yes. It was either .600 or .150.

Smoking pot in late teens, early 20s just calmed me to find consistency. Without practice in summer leagues I finally became consistent hitter. I smoked before every game. College kid, enjoying life- it just calmed me the f down, allowed me to enjoy that game.

@Slayo mentioned pots role on potassium. He says it lowers it? I don’t know- all I can say is I’m not doing as well on it as I used to and I’m tapering it’s use. Not going to stop completely, but I’m realizing I gotta lower it’s use to help me out of this health hole I’m in.

I'm in the same situation, I smoke marijuana every day for 2 years, I think it's one of the few bad things I still do for my health and that probably caused me my depersonalization, I got addicted to that shit haha: / ...

 

[bruschi11]

I'm in the same situation, I smoke marijuana every day for 2 years, I think it's one of the few bad things I still do for my health and that probably caused me my depersonalization, I got addicted to that shit haha: / ...

Haha I never really feel addicted... but it’s always just there. It’s so easy to get where I live now and my roommates, friends all smoke. It’s always in front of my face. Cheap too.

It’s weird I don’t crave it and can’t say I love it. I’ve been on and off for years... but in 13 months I haven’t gone more than 2 consecutive days without.

 

[Orion]

Haha I never really feel addicted... but it’s always just there. It’s so easy to get where I live now and my roommates, friends all smoke. It’s always in front of my face. Cheap too.

It’s weird I don’t crave it and can’t say I love it. I’ve been on and off for years... but in 13 months I haven’t gone more than 2 consecutive days without.

Another month it will be legal here, and very happy for all my chronic friends. I quit years ago, I get anxiety, panic, paranoia attacks from weed, its brutal and the opposite of mellow or fun. Although I was chronic for years in my youth before I got bad highs, so I am sure it added to all the imbalances that were pre-accutane.

LSD25 is my funtime.

 

[MNK99]

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[bruschi11]

Another month it will be legal here, and very happy for all my chronic friends. I quit years ago, I get anxiety, panic, paranoia attacks from weed, its brutal and the opposite of mellow or fun. Although I was chronic for years in my youth before I got bad highs, so I am sure it added to all the imbalances that were pre-accutane.

LSD25 is my funtime.

Interesting. Gotta try it.

I’ve never tried it but GHB is something I’d like to try. Heard it’s not a bad replacement for alcohol.

 

[IHateFin]

Interesting. Gotta try it.

I’ve never tried it but GHB is something I’d like to try. Heard it’s not a bad replacement for alcohol.

GHB is SO hard to get in the states, man! I wanted to try it so bad, but it got seized when I finally got 500ml of it... so upsetting haha this was around april of this year I think

 

[RebelWithACause]

Stopped taking creatine since like 3 days. Do notice difference in cognitive function. It seems like creatine has direct effect in brain function - not just from saturation in muscle long term.

1. Cognition. Two studies now have shown that creatine supplementation significantly helps the brain. It all started with a study of male and female vegetarians that showed improvements in both working memory and intelligence from creatine supplementation. [9] A follow-up study on female vegetarians found that they signficantly improved memory (and choice reaction time in certain ways). [9] Again, most men think of creatine as helping muscles only, but it profoundly improves mitochodrial function and that, in turn, help the brain and all its heavy processing activities.
2. Exercise Performance. There is evidence that lower creatine levels affect max level exercise performance and that vegetarians would benefit from supplementation. [11]
3. Muscle Benefits. Vegetarians should get all the muscle benefits of omnivores, because with creatine supplementation, their muscle creatine levels quickly equal that of meat-eaters. This is because muscle can only store so much creatine anyway, so supplementation quickly "levels the playing field". So, if you're plant-based or vegetarian, get ready to "rock" with creatine.
4. Lowering Post-Exercise Inflammation. Creatine does a nice job of lowering both TNF alpha and CRP (C-Reactive Protein) according to one recent study. See #21 on my page on How to Lower Inflammation for more details.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Nice ya maybe it could make me sharper i was def witty on it but baseline is like that anyways... and always was... I'm sure in some ways it would be advantageous to executive function, it is used in many nootropic stacks after all, I'm just saying gotta way out the pro's and cons as you know. It's not that bad obviously, it's not like steroids or a hard hard drug.

Yea you become sharp in the mind. I think I will just use low amount pre workout (3g-5g). Leave it at that.

 

[Ingeno]

Yea you become sharp in the mind. I think I will just use low amount pre workout (3g-5g). Leave it at that.

Yo Rebel, still taking creatine? I am experimenting with a low dose, 1-1.5g a day. I think it reduces the brain fog somewhat and gives me a tad more motivation. I don't think this dose interferes with the hair results, because they recommend a lot of red meat in my diet, which contains a lot of creatine as well. Not sure if it increases or decreases my hair loss yet.