Electrolyte Protocol for Improved Health

[Nina]

@Legna88 read the protocol at first page, it is all there.



But in my case that would be ~400g protein.
So I would rather say 2g/kg/day is a good amount.

I think for people consuming over 2000kcal a day, its impossible to use this 30,50,20 suggestion. Tbh

I was thinking about this too. 50% is a lot of protein but i think if you are moderately active, you can up your carbs a bit and lower protein.

 

[RebelWithACause]

WTF @RebelWithACause It does? I'll read about that.

Gbolduev has said this to TubZy.

Whatever it does. I feel less motivated and less energy while using it. I am taking 2-4 caps per meal.

I am taking potassium chloride with it.

I am not drinking caffeine. Maybe if you drink coffee you do not notice the energy reduction.

Tomorrow I will drop the betaine HCl and see what happens. See if my stomach stays in this good state. I might use the betaine HCl with my last meal before bed.

 

[Admiral]

400 grams of protein is insane. 500 Grams of chicken barely has 100 grams of protein.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Good luck eating that much protein.

Just keep it simple. Eat when you are hungry. Higher carbs if you are active, lower carbs if you are not. Eat protein with every meal. Don't overthink. Overthinking leads nowhere.

I do better on a higher carb diet. Even when cutting.

 

[Nina]

Good luck eating that much protein.

Just keep it simple. Eat when you are hungry. Higher carbs if you are active, lower carbs if you are not. Eat protein with every meal. Don't overthink. Overthinking leads nowhere.

I do better on a higher carb diet. Even when cutting.

How much % fat do you eat?

 

[RebelWithACause]

How much % fat do you eat?

Most of the time a good amount. Since starting this protocol I have been mindful of it but I still bake in butter. Today I had more fat than normal. It depends what type of meat I have.

I do not feel bad with more dietary fat. Hormonally it seems to do me good. I feel less energy if I eat zero or low fat.

I only feel bad if I eat too much fat. Like 500g-1kg ground beef. That is not good for my stomach. Would not recommened.

 

[Nina]

Most of the time a good amount. Since starting this protocol I have been mindful of it but I still bake in butter. Today I had more fat than normal. It depends what type of meat I have.

I do not feel bad with more dietary fat. Hormonally it seems to do me good. I feel less energy if I eat zero or low fat.

I only feel bad if I eat too much fat. Like 500g-1kg ground beef. That is not good for my stomach. Would not recommened.

Interesting, im not sure why the recommended diet here is 20% fat only. Its pretty low, my usual diet is around 35% and bodybuilders at my gym always tell me to try keto when im cutting so there must be something to a bit more fat.

 

[Canari]

Betaine HCl drains my motivation and energy. After reading it lowers dopamine I understand why. My stomach feels better though. I see it as something I will use short term. Long term I do not like it.

Is it from hcl or from the betaine?
Are there other form for hcl that are good as digestive aid?

 

[RebelWithACause]

Is it from hcl or from the betaine?
Are there other form for hcl that are good as digestive aid?

Not sure. It does not seem to affect everybody. If you feel good, keep taking it.

 

[Canari]

I just come back from my cranio sacral workshop and having low stomach acid bad digestion or nausea and headache can be from the vagus nerve. We worked on the skull and including the jugular foramen. So it can be something else to check... As I had a temporal bone that was blocked let's see the change.

 

[Ghost]

I've been blending 3 beets a day into my smoothies - while waiting for HCl to arrive. Every time I go to the bathroom urine is red. Noticed little else so far.

 

[Aleksandr]

It seems some people as well feel great on the rest of protocol while dropping betaine HCL from it, maybe from tanking potassium too much. @happenstance

While others feel good on high doses

I asked on a facebook group for hair testing if protein + hcl will raise phosphorous. The consensus seemed it would, but someone also said that hcl is prometabolic. Weirdly they said that digestive enzymes slow the metabolism... so to maintain neutral you gotta work out a combination of the two in proper ratios. I asked for more info but havent got it yet

 

[Rid]

yup, your shits will be red too! pretty crazy stuff, but you'll notice a difference if you keep that up. unless your body just isn't taking in any of that NO. I was taking a good bit of arginine and low dose cialis EOD alongside and my erection health was great. I guess this would be a good gauge of how much potential fibrosis/pelvic/venous issues you have vs how much of someone's sexual issues are just diet or absorption related, assuming diet is good and you feel good otherwise. if you're not getting erections with those 3 things, then you need to do more exercises and massages to get rid of inflammation, fibrosis and release pelvic floor tension etc.

now that I've cold turkeyed most of that stuff and I'm sticking with this protocol, I'm hoping my body can get enough NO and whatever else it needs to keep things up. libido/spontaneous/morning/nightly erections are low but I feel great and I can tell my penile blood flow is much better. erections are fine when I'm in the mood, I just have to have a push to get into the mood rather than just being horny all the time like before. not exactly a bad thing, body might just not be used to having natural libido, still don't have that "connection" between my mind and penis as strong as I used to, but when I'm in the mood, I'm in the mood. slow and steady boys, just one day at a time.

 

[supernature]

I do not understand how taking acid can dilute your acid or stop yours. But indeed I experienced a blocked digestión.

...

 

[Niles]

I've been blending 3 beets a day into my smoothies - while waiting for HCl to arrive. Every time I go to the bathroom urine is red. Noticed little else so far.

Haha, same. Scared me at first. I had done it for about 2 weeks and didn't see any improvements in circulation either. But I like the taste and they've got some good vits/minerals, so I'll probably pick up some more.

 

[Canari]

Not an isolated case definitely. ACV(acetic acid) is weak acid and HCL is strong acid. There must be some specific in the interaction of both, like neutralization ..., a biochemist should know better. "I tested positive for b12 deficiency which led me to investigate achlorhydria. I started taking apple cider vinegar (in addition to b12). A few months later I tested postive for hypochlorhydria. The options were Betaine HCL, lemon juice or ACV as a treatment. The latter 2 work very well – but betaine after only 1 tablet gave me terrible indigestion. At the time (and up until reading this article) I thought the problem was related to the PH changes in the pancreas – now I’m not so sure. But why the reaction after 1 tablet when I know I have low stomach acid? Also, in respect of the production of stomach acid – do the parietal cells produce Intrinsic Factor and Acid at the same time or can you lack one and not the other ie they don’t produce acid but do produce IF? I keep seeing conflicting research and it’s driving me a little crazy."

Thats crazy, we need a thread to talk only about the different hcl and our reactions to it! I do not see how 2 acids can neutralize each other, but I definitely got better by stopping ACV.

The problem is that I have other reasons to have bad digestion, and apart from some irritations of the vagus, I also have seen that some people got reflux from swallowing their mouthwash of XILITOL!
And this is what I do... But I noticed no difference when I stopped xilitol before buying some more.

 

[brongfogboy]

Try juicing two beets on an empty stomach first thing in the morning, you really feel it pushing the bile.

 

[IHateFin]

does anyone use magnesium chloride for sleep with success and makes them feel good?

 

[happenstance]

It seems some people as well feel great on the rest of protocol while dropping betaine HCL from it, maybe from tanking potassium too much. @happenstance

While others feel good on high doses

Arl wrote about hypochlorhydria in relation to copper toxicity. I'm wondering if taking zinc and manganese corrected something which in turn made me intolerant to hcl. My digestion has definitely improved. Might also be from mag and potassium chloride.

 

[Aleksandr]

does anyone use magnesium chloride for sleep with success and makes them feel good?

Makes me feel sleepy. I use it after exercise