I see, but he is not talking about potassium been essential for hydrochloric acid production.. That's what I am saying that potassium is crucial. Btw I took my first potassium in form of supplement(potassium chloride) with acid before and after meal and I feel great. No burping, indigestion nothing... I was so low on potassium for so many years + high physical stress + very high sodium and magnesium which crushed my potassium for sure..
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I have blood work for minerals. But they are useless.. My calcium were higher. Everything else in range. I want hair analysis at some point just to see if I am not high in some metals, arsenic etc.. Bloodwork is ok for some things like ceruloplasmin, homocysteine, blood sugar etc.. But for electrolytes it is useless.. If I had low potassium on the blood work during resting state(not during or after some exercise) I would be probably dead lol.. because the body doing everything to keep blood levels even if all tissues are depleted.. But I can go back 10 years and look what I was eating and doing and for sure it was not potassium friendly heh..
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You are focusing on solely digestion, which is okay - nothing you are saying is incorrect about digestion. But the effects of electrolyte therapy go beyond just improving digestion and, in the case of many PFS/PSSD guys here, is just as much about it's neurological impacts as it's digestion impacts. We have discussed both angles many times on this forum. We need chloride to regulate things like GABA.
Both potassium and chloride are essential for building stomach acid salts, especially the chloride if a person has high levels of other anions like phosphate and bicarb in their system, because they will push chloride out. If a person is very high in cations as well, supplementing potassium requires an anion to keep charges balanced. The body loses chloride easier than any other ion, so saying salt provides enough is inaccurate.
Honestly, most people here would be better off if they could get an IV + central line for electrolytes and HCl. Absorption would be much better and this would have more dramatic effects on neurological sides.
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The main problem is we don't really know what absorption of HCl really looks like through the oral route because there's not much research on it. Most of it just shows that stomach pH quickly declines, but after a few hours is completely back to baseline levels. So we don't really know how this translates to sustained levels of stomach acidity or blood levels of acidity.
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"As you say not K friendly foods, that only points the possibility that could be any other deficiency despite potassium."
I am not talking just about foods. For example I was exercising a lot and I was eating a lot of sodium and magnesium. I was eating some vegetables, bananas etc.. But 4000mg of potassium + what was lsot during 4 hours on the bike etc.? No way.. Now I will make sure that I have at least 5000mg of potassium. Let see what will happen in next weeks..
I am not talking just about foods. For example I was exercising a lot and I was eating a lot of sodium and magnesium. I was eating some vegetables, bananas etc.. But 4000mg of potassium + what was lsot during 4 hours on the bike etc.? No way.. Now I will make sure that I have at least 5000mg of potassium. Let see what will happen in next weeks..
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Depends on the country. In most countries a GP can't rec for blood gases, only a respirologist/internist can do it.
Because I am tired of spending so much money on these things.
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You all should understand. Finasteride blocks NADPH. NADPH is the thing that protects the mitochondria from oxidative stress via recycling the glutathione.
SO if your mitochondria is not protected the body turns off all sugar metabolism. It lowes insulin, it increases reverse t3 , it kills potassium etc. it binds oxygen with hemoglobin and does not let oxygen to go into the cell. NOT TO CREATE oxidative stress.
This is why body pisses out zinc since zinc is what makes insulin.
So to return body back, you need to support redox( you need to take b1 b2 b3) multivitamin and do ARL test and follow their instructions. You cant just take HCL and that is it or some potassium. You need to take everything. And B vitamins are very very important since you need to make NADPH again. you need to protect mitochondria, and this will allow you to take zinc again
SO if your mitochondria is not protected the body turns off all sugar metabolism. It lowes insulin, it increases reverse t3 , it kills potassium etc. it binds oxygen with hemoglobin and does not let oxygen to go into the cell. NOT TO CREATE oxidative stress.
This is why body pisses out zinc since zinc is what makes insulin.
So to return body back, you need to support redox( you need to take b1 b2 b3) multivitamin and do ARL test and follow their instructions. You cant just take HCL and that is it or some potassium. You need to take everything. And B vitamins are very very important since you need to make NADPH again. you need to protect mitochondria, and this will allow you to take zinc again
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"You all should understand. Finasteride blocks NADPH" but not all were taking finasteride.. I was taking only accutane, steroids and now T4..
steroids block NADPH the same as finasteride. This is why PFS is basically a kind of steroid diabetes. Steroids cause exactly same diabetes. It is called steroid induced or steroid diabetes.
Dont forget that enzyme 450scc needs NADPH to make pregnenolone. And also you need nadph to make testosterone. via 17 beta hsd. this is why when you take testosterone body kills NADPH
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It is all in electolytes protocol. I rec ARL, it is much better than mutivitamin , if not ARL multivitamin and shilagit. It is all written out in the protocol. But you guys only see couple of points. Everything is important on the protocol, you leave one thing out, and it does not work. I highly rec you to go on ARL. 2 months and you will be fixed.
My testosterone was ok on last blood test. I don't know, but I know tons of people who are taking or were taking on and of and they are fine. In my case I had health issues from the time when I should had a puberty, but the puberty was not happening. I also never had sense of smell. So I think I have Kallmann syndrome. So I am probably fucked due to genetics.. But I was relatively ok. Until I switched from bodybuilding to cycling. Like 3-5hour crazy hard rides with bad digestion. So inadequate nutrition. This crushed my minerals and break down my proteins very badly..