Expendable, Ella log

[Jaxx]

That is awesome expendable haha! Thanks for the update. I am trying to find the thread of the guy who cured himself with Ella. Did that guy have psf? I had the link but I can’t find it.

http://www.pssdforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1441

Thank you Jaxx! I was stressing out trying to find it again haha. Jaxx, are you going to run ru 486 or Ella ?

Waiting for my bloodtest at the endo. Really want to have a baseline before i start anything. So-far Ella seems to be the most promising route. Not sure if it's the shorter protocol or the pill itself.

 

[aztec]

http://www.pssdforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=1441

Thank you Jaxx! I was stressing out trying to find it again haha. Jaxx, are you going to run ru 486 or Ella ?

Waiting for my bloodtest at the endo. Really want to have a baseline before i start anything. So-far Ella seems to be the most promising route. Not sure if it's the shorter protocol or the pill itself.

That is a good idea Jaxx. I am doing mine very soon as well. Tests look good and need to organize everything by this weekend. The Ella route is solid and posting our experiences will help a lot of other guys.

 

[TubZy]

ACTUAL GOOD NEWS!

Okay, day two. I'm not exhausted upon waking up for once! Wow! This is by far the most noticeable difference. Also woke up with a strong boner but that could just be coincidence/placebo. Too early to tell anything just yet. I'm taking the ella around noon every day.

If I was you, I would try to replicate the same protocol the guy who got cured by Ella did.
So please, in my opinion, do not mix other supplements without a reason.

Dw I'm doing what he did pretty much exactly. Note that he did take inositol some time before his ella trial, which I didn't do.

Only thing is I'm worried about is @gbolduev said that techncially you should feel worse on RU, not entirely sure about Ella but they a very similar, so I hope it is not acting like a progestin, but that one guy recovered in his trial so IDK, very hard to tell at this point.

Hard to tell indeed... I do feel genuinely better, morning wood again this morning, and AGAIN, able to wake up without being groggy and shitty. The PSSD guy felt better after 3 or 4 days, iirc. If you have high prog and take ella, shouldn't you feel better since it's going back to a normal level? Maybe you only feel worse if you already have low prog and take it or RU? Just throwing ideas out here, I don't remember what gbold said about it.

Yeah, that is what I was thinking as well. For me personally, RU felt nothing similar to going on back on fin, actually quite the opposite, so I don't think it technically is a full on progestin (perhaps dose dependent).

I would say just continue the way you are going IMO, especially since you have some anecdotal evidence from the PSSD forum. Either way, I think this experiment would be extremely beneficial regardless. What are you taking when you come off, anything?

 

[Jaxx]

The "cured" guy on the PSSD forums didnt post anymore. No idea if it really sticked with him, lets hope so. As far as we can tell he didnt take anything else post-cycle

 

[expendable]

Awesome to hear man! Any impact on orgasm strenght, and control of it?

It definitely feels stronger. For me, orgasm wasn't really an issue even with full-blown PSSD. It didn't feel AS good as it once did, but still felt really damn good. Getting better now, though!

I would say just continue the way you are going IMO, especially since you have some anecdotal evidence from the PSSD forum. Either way, I think this experiment would be extremely beneficial regardless. What are you taking when you come off, anything?

I won't be taking anything. Trying to emulate the guy who did it on PSSDforum.

 

[TubZy]

Awesome to hear man! Any impact on orgasm strenght, and control of it?

It definitely feels stronger. For me, orgasm wasn't really an issue even with full-blown PSSD. It didn't feel AS good as it once did, but still felt really damn good. Getting better now, though!

I would say just continue the way you are going IMO, especially since you have some anecdotal evidence from the PSSD forum. Either way, I think this experiment would be extremely beneficial regardless. What are you taking when you come off, anything?

I won't be taking anything. Trying to emulate the guy who did it on PSSDforum.

cool, sounds good man

 

[Jaxx]

Awesome to hear man! Any impact on orgasm strenght, and control of it?

It definitely feels stronger. For me, orgasm wasn't really an issue even with full-blown PSSD. It didn't feel AS good as it once did, but still felt really damn good. Getting better now, though!

I would say just continue the way you are going IMO, especially since you have some anecdotal evidence from the PSSD forum. Either way, I think this experiment would be extremely beneficial regardless. What are you taking when you come off, anything?

I won't be taking anything. Trying to emulate the guy who did it on PSSDforum.

Awesome stuff, keep us posted!

 

[aztec]

Definitely run a clean cycle with the Ella guys so it does not become confusing as to what created positive change. I don’t think the inositol before starting the cycle is necessary. Does anyone have contact with trondanac (guy who cured himself with Ella)?

 

[aztec]

Hey guys. Sorry for the late update, I had class. I'm happy to report that I'm still improving! I was tired when I woke up for class because I stayed up playing videogames, but I wasn't fatigued. It was a different kind of tiredness before. Now it's gone!!

And my dick is better too of course! I don't think it's completely back to normal yet but I got some very hard boners in class (lol) by thinking about sex. And it just feels so much better, semen quality is better, everything. This is genuinely helping me. I have 2 doses left, we'll see what happens.

Expendable, how are you feeling today? Almost done with Ella? Any new updates?

 

[Dark0047]

@expendable, dude, do you feel less numb in your dick? Is your genital anesthesia better?

 

[expendable]

Expendable, how are you feeling today? Almost done with Ella? Any new updates?

Feeling kind of the same as yesteday. Took my second to last dose today. Sexual dream last night. Other than that, nothing big to report.

expendable, dude, do you feel less numb in your dick? Is your genital anesthesia better?

Yeah, I do feel a lot less numb, but not back to normal yet. This is the only symptom I'm having these past couple days.

 

[aztec]

Expendable, how are you feeling today? Almost done with Ella? Any new updates?

Feeling kind of the same as yesteday. Took my second to last dose today. Sexual dream last night. Other than that, nothing big to report.

expendable, dude, do you feel less numb in your dick? Is your genital anesthesia better?

Yeah, I do feel a lot less numb, but not back to normal yet. This is the only symptom I'm having these past couple days.

Glad you are well! Are you eating healthy? How is your sleep?

 

[expendable]

Are you eating healthy? How is your sleep?

Sleep is shit, eating habits are shit. Welcome to college.

In all seriousness, I only get about 6 or 7 hours of sleep a night on weekdays, and I sleep in on weekends. Diet is usually okay, most protein from chicken, some vegetables, carbs like potatoes, bread, a banana here and there.

 

[wuf]

Are you eating healthy? How is your sleep?

Sleep is shit, eating habits are shit. Welcome to college.

In all seriousness, I only get about 6 or 7 hours of sleep a night on weekdays, and I sleep in on weekends. Diet is usually okay, most protein from chicken, some vegetables, carbs like potatoes, bread, a banana here and there.

College, LOL!....So many girls to fuck...)))
Get your way and schedule right man, you will have fun later.

 

[aztec]

Are you eating healthy? How is your sleep?

Sleep is shit, eating habits are shit. Welcome to college.

In all seriousness, I only get about 6 or 7 hours of sleep a night on weekdays, and I sleep in on weekends. Diet is usually okay, most protein from chicken, some vegetables, carbs like potatoes, bread, a banana here and there.

Hang in there pal. Treat your body nice and squeeze in those vegetables when you can. Drink plenty of water and stay away from artificial sugar. I know what the college grind is like. I am cheering for you man. Give your body time to heal well even if it’s a few minutes of relaxation, meditation, or prayer daily.

 

[Jaxx]

Remember that part of the recovery was after the 6 days in the initial trial, so lets wait and see!

 

[Dark0047]

Any new update expandable?

 

[expendable]

Hello, people. Today's update: No change! Which is a good thing! Right?

I fapped 3 times yesterday, then was able to get a boner again at night without physical stimulation and fapped again. Waking up felt good again this morning (as good as 7 hours of sleep can feel, anyway). I got a boner in class by thinking about sex. All of this stuff is good. My only remaining symptom is still a slight disassociative feeling between dick and brain. It just doesn't feel AS good as it should. Semen quality varies, interestingly enough it's usually much better for the first fap of the day!

I think I mentioned here that I'd be doing noFap but I quickly broke that rule. I don't want to fap for the next couple days at least, though, just to see if there's a difference. It seems to have helped me in the past. Semen quality, at least, got much better, and I was able to feel a lot more. I remember reading somewhere that fapping raises prolactin, too, so I'll give noFap a go for these next few days. On the whole, I feel like I am in much the same position as Trondonac on PSSDforums at this point- much better than a week ago, but not 100%. Maybe like 80%. Definitely, if my girlfriend were here, I would be able to have sex and all. But I'm not sure if I could reach orgasm from only vaginal sex. Oh well.

I believe this weekend is really the critical point. By the end of it, things should be very clear. I'm either going to continue improving off the ella like Trondanac did (he claimed improvements a couple days off the ella, which would be friday or saturday for me), stay the same (doubt it), or regress. But if nothing else, at least the huge difference in sleep and mood is really helping me out! Seriously.

 

[Jaxx]

Again great to hear! I do understand the sleeping part, i almost forgot what waking up rested feels like. Thanks for the daily updates and hang in there!

 

[Psychscansvkit]

Hi Expandable,
Did you have anhedonia, apathy before Ella? If so is that resolving at all?