Fight post fin with fin?

[IHateFin]

I was reading up on Ella, and decided to try it before going back on finasteride. I did 5mg last night and woke up feeling better than the day before. I just did another 5 mg and I'll let you know how it goes.

Awesome man! I may give Ella a shot myself. I'm gunna be giving funagreek a shot this week.

Did you get your Ella from a source on here?

 

[PFStinks]

Awesome man! I may give Ella a shot myself. I'm gunna be giving funagreek a shot this week.

Did you get your Ella from a source on here?

I got my Ella from a pharmacist as its available over the counter here. I split the 30mg pill up into 6 parts and am planning to do the 6 day cycle.
The only reason I wasnt doing Ella originally was because of the risk involved in possibly making my PFS worse, but i figured if I was going to do finasteride I might as well try Ella first.

After doing 5mg yesterday I woke up today feeling good, and one of the changes I noticed is in my eyes. I feel like my eyes are more focused looking and it definitely has an impact on my appearance. Probably connected to the brainfog going down a bit.

By the way after doing my first 5mg I definitely did feel the "wired" feeling that Aztec described, I'll let you know how I feel after todays dose.

 

[Concerned]

I got my Ella from a pharmacist as its available over the counter here. I split the 30mg pill up into 6 parts and am planning to do the 6 day cycle.
The only reason I wasnt doing Ella originally was because of the risk involved in possibly making my PFS worse, but i figured if I was going to do finasteride I might as well try Ella first.

After doing 5mg yesterday I woke up today feeling good, and one of the changes I noticed is in my eyes. I feel like my eyes are more focused looking and it definitely has an impact on my appearance. Probably connected to the brainfog going down a bit.

By the way after doing my first 5mg I definitely did feel the "wired" feeling that Aztec described, I'll let you know how I feel after todays dose.

Any update on this?

 

[PFStinks]

I went back on finasteride.
Before reading, please take into account that everyones body chemistry is different, and that as far as we know there are 2 different types of PFS.
I am not responsible if you decide to follow me blindly and end up in an even worse state, you have been warned.

That being said here's what happened.
For the first couple of days I actually felt a lot better, I noticed my voice was deeper and my digestion was improved. I had a sore throat and phlegm build up which I assume was my immune system kicking back in, all of that with an improved libido to boot. I was feeling great... but after that I started returning to my typical PFS state.

I'm not quite sure what exactly happened but I think it might have to do with the accumulation of finasteride in my system making my DHT levels go down TOO low.
This whole thing is very confusing. The closest thing I can find that someone else did was this thread: A new protocol I have been experimenting with, it can be used for both accutane and PFS sufferers

The guy was using high-dose zinc, and felt good and also said finasteride could be used instead but he never tried it himself.
He has a new site where he updates his protocol to include saw palmetto and soy, located here: Cure PFS and Accutane Side Effects

Other than that all this stuff is going over my head. I'm going to try and wait for my DHT levels to rise again and see if I feel any better when or if my body hits the DHT sweet spot.

 

[Minime]

I went back on finasteride.
Before reading, please take into account that everyones body chemistry is different, and that as far as we know there are 2 different types of PFS.
I am not responsible if you decide to follow me blindly and end up in an even worse state, you have been warned.

That being said here's what happened.
For the first couple of days I actually felt a lot better, I noticed my voice was deeper and my digestion was improved. I had a sore throat and phlegm build up which I assume was my immune system kicking back in, all of that with an improved libido to boot. I was feeling great... but after that I started returning to my typical PFS state.

I'm not quite sure what exactly happened but I think it might have to do with the accumulation of finasteride in my system making my DHT levels go down TOO low.
This whole thing is very confusing. The closest thing I can find that someone else did was this thread: A new protocol I have been experimenting with, it can be used for both accutane and PFS sufferers

The guy was using high-dose zinc, and felt good and also said finasteride could be used instead but he never tried it himself.
He has a new site where he updates his protocol to include saw palmetto and soy, located here: Cure PFS and Accutane Side Effects

Other than that all this stuff is going over my head. I'm going to try and wait for my DHT levels to rise again and see if I feel any better when or if my body hits the DHT sweet spot.

How long have you been back on fin? What dose...1mg/day?

 

[hairsuit]

That’s a bummer. Something about this feels like it should work. Thanks for letting us know!

 

[RebelWithACause]

Good to know. Thanks for the update @PFStinks

I felt like shit on finasteride from day 1 and I used low dose (0.25mg). Instantly I had brainfog, extreme tiredness, etc.

The only way I could function on finasteride was on ketogenic diet.

I used phenibut (GABA-A drug) before going on dates.

Etc.

I used all types of tricks to be able to use finasteride and live my life.

For me finasteride never made me feel good or normal like some people seem to experienced.

So I would never go back on it.

After quitting I did have a period of a few months where the symptoms were worse like high stress feeling - feeling of dying everyday 24/7. lmao

 

[IHateFin]

I went back on finasteride.
Before reading, please take into account that everyones body chemistry is different, and that as far as we know there are 2 different types of PFS.
I am not responsible if you decide to follow me blindly and end up in an even worse state, you have been warned.

That being said here's what happened.
For the first couple of days I actually felt a lot better, I noticed my voice was deeper and my digestion was improved. I had a sore throat and phlegm build up which I assume was my immune system kicking back in, all of that with an improved libido to boot. I was feeling great... but after that I started returning to my typical PFS state.

I'm not quite sure what exactly happened but I think it might have to do with the accumulation of finasteride in my system making my DHT levels go down TOO low.
This whole thing is very confusing. The closest thing I can find that someone else did was this thread: A new protocol I have been experimenting with, it can be used for both accutane and PFS sufferers

The guy was using high-dose zinc, and felt good and also said finasteride could be used instead but he never tried it himself.
He has a new site where he updates his protocol to include saw palmetto and soy, located here: Cure PFS and Accutane Side Effects

Other than that all this stuff is going over my head. I'm going to try and wait for my DHT levels to rise again and see if I feel any better when or if my body hits the DHT sweet spot.

damn, bro you shoulda let us know so we can discuss possible lower doses to see if what you experianced could work or stick

 

[PFStinks]

How long have you been back on fin? What dose...1mg/day?

damn, bro you shoulda let us know so we can discuss possible lower doses to see if what you experianced could work or stick

I started with half a gram of fin, the next day i had like 0.125 grams and the day after the same, and I felt good during those three days. I started increasing the dose to see if it would make me feel better, but it didnt work out that way. If I ever do it again im just going to take a really small dose and wait like 5 days before taking another small dose.

 

[IHateFin]

I started with half a gram of fin, the next day i had like 0.125 grams and the day after the same, and I felt good during those three days. I started increasing the dose to see if it would make me feel better, but it didnt work out that way. If I ever do it again im just going to take a really small dose and wait like 5 days before taking another small dose.

Less is more with fin, bro. I think if you do .125 E3D or .04mg ED would be better.

 

[IHateFin]

It's promising info tho! What about trying low dose saw p?

 

[Aflac94]

Less is more with fin, bro. I think if you do .125 E3D or .04mg ED would be better.

Trying the super micro dose taper would be interesting.dont know if I could ever bring myself to do it

 

[MNK99]

Don't do it man @Aflac94 . How old are you? Probably very young. Hence, wait for HISTOGEN. AND FUES. AND Shishedo or use other alt health measures from topical hair thread. I mean .04mg is possibly fine... but who knows? Topical Fin from hasson and wong, get 1/10th or 1/20th ---> If that*****. I wouldn't. But YMMV.

Are you Post fin or Post accutane?

I think I kept taking fin to get accustomed to the effects or "ride it out", was about to get 1mg, used 5mg and cut into 4ths imperfectly. One bottle 124-125 days.
Sometimes very low doses, like .5mg or .4mg (still pretty high). Sometimes, I licked a speck off the counter or mirror-finished island. June 5th or so may have been my last date or a date of a trip... If I finished in June, that's bc I was dying 2 weeks, even off of it. ---SO yeah, issues can be quite severe. fasted like hell this yr --- vs. starved self last yr. It's like 5-8k to get an HT in the states, and one should wait till 28-33 or so (FUE).

 

[Aflac94]

Don't do it man @Aflac94 . How old are you? Probably very young. Hence, wait for HISTOGEN. AND FUES. AND Shishedo or use other alt health measures from topical hair thread. I mean .04mg is possibly fine... but who knows? Topical Fin from hasson and wong, get 1/10th or 1/20th ---> If that*****. I wouldn't. But YMMV.

Are you Post fin or Post accutane?

I think I kept taking fin to get accustomed to the effects or "ride it out", was about to get 1mg, used 5mg and cut into 4ths imperfectly. One bottle 124-125 days.
Sometimes very low doses, like .5mg or .4mg (still pretty high). Sometimes, I licked a speck off the counter or mirror-finished island. June 5th or so may have been my last date or a date of a trip... If I finished in June, that's bc I was dying 2 weeks, even off of it. ---SO yeah, issues can be quite severe. fasted like hell this yr --- vs. starved self last yr. It's like 5-8k to get an HT in the states, and one should wait till 28-33 or so (FUE).

I didn’t mean for my hair. I don’t give a shit about my hair until I get out of this shit PFS body chemistry. Even then I would never take anything for hair.

You went back on fin in June? Like 2 months ago?

 

[MNK99]

NO, GOD NO. ---> LAST JUNE. In crash, myb a bit after initially stopping when I was well enough to remember to take it again? I dunno. Lets say 125-140days total. I may have just thought about it last June due to trips and events I had where I knew I was sick. Began Jan 17 or 18th 2017.

 

[IHateFin]

Trying the super micro dose taper would be interesting.dont know if I could ever bring myself to do it

I would recommend against it, but if you do what PFstinks does id go with doses that I listed. plus I linked something on here that goes in great detail about how to safely taper off fin.

if one is willing to try low dose fin again id say just try saw p herb not extract at low doses instead. like a good organic source

 

[Pedro melo]

I would recommend against it, but if you do what PFstinks does id go with doses that I listed. plus I linked something on here that goes in great detail about how to safely taper off fin.

if one is willing to try low dose fin again id say just try saw p herb not extract at low doses instead. like a good organic source

I think my problem is just that... I started to have Brest lumps and i ve stopped it almost imediatlly( like two weeks or three after)
Could 0.25 ( break one 1mg pill on four parts) be good to me and with frequence to take it?
Because all this shit I feel I didn't feel when I was taking fin... Maybe my body got adapted to block 5ar..

 

[IHateFin]

I think my problem is just that... I started to have Brest lumps and i ve stopped it almost imediatlly( like two weeks or three after)
Could 0.25 ( break one 1mg pill on four parts) be good to me and with frequence to take it?
Because all this shit I feel I didn't feel when I was taking fin... Maybe my body got adapted to block 5ar..

there was a guy who was fine on finasteride for 7 years and then stopped and developed pfs so its the body trying to normalize that cause pfs.

you could and possibly will feel better but the stakes are too high. if you look on this thread in the beginning there are two links about fin about what it does and tapering off it. theres another link on here about a guy who took fin again. i would not go this route tho

 

[Pedro melo]

there was a guy who was fine on finasteride for 7 years and then stopped and developed pfs so its the body trying to normalize that cause pfs.

you could and possibly will feel better but the stakes are too high. if you look on this thread in the beginning there are two links about fin about what it does and tapering off it. theres another link on here about a guy who took fin again. i would not go this route tho

So what you say is pfs its a matter of time and it will pass?

 

[IHateFin]

So what you say is pfs its a matter of time and it will pass?

some recover quite a bit after, but sometimes time doesnt do anything to help someone.