Fight post fin with fin?

JasonSky

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I think my problem is just that... I started to have Brest lumps and i ve stopped it almost imediatlly( like two weeks or three after)
Could 0.25 ( break one 1mg pill on four parts) be good to me and with frequence to take it?
Because all this shit I feel I didn't feel when I was taking fin... Maybe my body got adapted to block 5ar..

Honestly if you feel like you don't have all too much to lose, I say just do it if you're up for it and try it out. Chances are it won't make you much worse, but could potentially be a cure.

You could try taking a single dose of .25 and waiting a few days just to see how your body reacts.

This random guy on reddit seems to have done something similar and it worked for him, but then again it's just one guys comment.
 

Pedro melo

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im fasting now... Bit im swear im really tempted to take fin again Coz this is outrageous... My life looks like over everyday is a new symptom I can't handle like this. Right now I jut dont want to live in pain... I don't ask for anything just don't give me p
 

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im fasting now... Bit im swear im really tempted to take fin again Coz this is outrageous... My life looks like over everyday is a new symptom I can't handle like this. Right now I jut dont want to live in pain... I don't ask for anything just don't give me p


just be very careful with it if you choose this route. honestly it seems youre at the lowest rn so taking it wont make you worse , BUT coming off wrong can... so please please pleaseeeee take a low ass dose every otherday at the most frequent and taper that shit. I posted a link about how to taper please read it thoroughly
 

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I've read it... Do you think I cant start fin without finish the fasting or should I wait?
Also of I tap I have the risk that everything happens again

bro you need to wait.. haha you are doing too much. you still have tomoxifen in your system since the half life is 7 days aaaand youre trying to run a fast. if you ask me the fast you are attempting to do is going to be hit or miss due to the tomax still in your system.. that stuff is garbage. go 30 days on nothing to let all the drugs clear and see what the fast does for you and then think about fin...

the point of the fast is to lower your hormones which will help restore receptors to normality... you literally have a drug in your system that is artificially raising your hormones like testosterone and estrogen and dht... this will completely negate anything that the fast will have to offer you, man.. I think @Helen would agree with me here.
 

JasonSky

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im fasting now... Bit im swear im really tempted to take fin again Coz this is outrageous... My life looks like over everyday is a new symptom I can't handle like this. Right now I jut dont want to live in pain... I don't ask for anything just don't give me p

How much longer is your fast? Might as well finish the fast imo and see how you feel.

Honestly just give fin a shot though since you're feeling so bad anyways. We're rooting for ya!
 

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if you taper properly it could cure you... fin has a short half life meaning it rapidly destroys your dht and quickly leaves the body... a proper low dose would be like every other day or everyday at .04mg twice a day 12 hours apart.... .25mg and 1mg inhibit dht the same for up to 7 days so even a fourth of a pill can be too much and worsen your condition when you hop off.. I prefer the every other day route, but that's just me
 

Pedro melo

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How much longer is your fast? Might as well finish the fast imo and see how you feel.

Honestly just give fin a shot though since you're feeling so bad anyways. We're rooting for ya!
Its been four days now. Feeling like ccrap...
 

Pedro melo

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About tamoxifen yes the life is huge but its just interrupts the cinrction between stradiol and the boob, I don't think it makes anything to hormones in case of numbers I guess.
How can I have 0.04 of fin? That's almost impossible to break the pill lol ( although I'm.not disagreeing)
if you taper properly it could cure you... fin has a short half life meaning it rapidly destroys your dht and quickly leaves the body... a proper low dose would be like every other day or everyday at .04mg twice a day 12 hours apart.... .25mg and 1mg inhibit dht the same for up to 7 days so even a fourth of a pill can be too much and worsen your condition when you hop off.. I prefer the every other day route, but that's just me
 

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Its been four days now. Feeling like ccrap...

it will get better, bro trust me. we have all been at the bottom of the barrel and confused as to what the hell was going on with our bodies.

in a sense it may be a blessing that your where you are at right now... you have nothing to lose and can do things like take fin again and possible go through the easiest and fastest cure. you could even try saw palmetto and be cured.. hell you are at a point where you could even take .5mg of dutasteride and be cured. that drug has a 6 week halflife meaning it takes so long to build up and to leave the body that it tapers itself.

just take it a day at a time and know that by the end of 2018 youre going to be in a lot better state, broski.
 

Pedro melo

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Hope that day can come my friend. Right now I want to do this fast and see the better option. Maybe retest again( going to endocrinology next week) probably the fast will change some values but I need to understand which case am I and speak with him the possibilities to take fin again or other Alfa reductase blovker
it will get better, bro trust me. we have all been at the bottom of the barrel and confused as to what the hell was going on with our bodies.

in a sense it may be a blessing that your where you are at right now... you have nothing to lose and can do things like take fin again and possible go through the easiest and fastest cure. you could even try saw palmetto and be cured.. hell you are at a point where you could even take .5mg of dutasteride and be cured. that drug has a 6 week halflife meaning it takes so long to build up and to leave the body that it tapers itself.

just take it a day at a time and know that by the end of 2018 youre going to be in a lot better state, broski.
 

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Hope that day can come my friend. Right now I want to do this fast and see the better option. Maybe retest again( going to endocrinology next week) probably the fast will change some values but I need to understand which case am I and speak with him the possibilities to take fin again or other Alfa reductase blovker

sounds good man. don't be like me and be impulsive and take a bunch of stuff hahaha doesn't always end well.
 

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-Impulsive... bad often, deadly at 22 23... and got out just like that... except for Effexor and Finasteride (this time, after like 6-8 yrs of great decisions).
-so yeah, impulsive can equal = deadly.
-At least --> not a good idea @Pedro melo


"Hope that day can come my friend. Right now I want to do this fast and see the better option. Maybe retest again( going to endocrinology next week) probably the fast will change some values but I need to understand which case am I and speak with him the possibilities to take fin again or other Alfa reductase blovker"

@Pedro melo I'd only trust an endo for test or to tell me my hair looks nice... otherwise, not much.

Don't take fin again!!! I'd rather go to prison.
 

Pedro melo

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-Impulsive... bad often, deadly at 22 23... and got out just like that... except for Effexor and Finasteride (this time, after like 6-8 yrs of great decisions).
-so yeah, impulsive can equal = deadly.
-At least --> not a good idea @Pedro melo


"Hope that day can come my friend. Right now I want to do this fast and see the better option. Maybe retest again( going to endocrinology next week) probably the fast will change some values but I need to understand which case am I and speak with him the possibilities to take fin again or other Alfa reductase blovker"

@Pedro melo I'd only trust an endo for test or to tell me my hair looks nice... otherwise, not much.

Don't take fin again!!! I'd rather go to prison.
Its nota about to being impulsibe brother... Is to feel impotent! Something that didnt happened before i quit is now happening in the worst csse scenario?
Maybe my body got adapted to block 5 alpha reductase . maybe.
There's only one way to find out. Whether I respond week to creatine or dht boosters, or to dht blockers...
 

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--> NO well, I am impulsive as fuck... and I'm saying I could be great. And I can easily fuck up everything in life, way worse than impotency.
--> SO with that in mind every day for 15-20 yrs... .... Don't even bother with that shyt, fast or detox. My log could literally be this to others:
fast--->arl/tei... or do what I did ... in that I did other things than everyone else, but overall basically a lot and most of what others did.
----> I will send your endo 2million dollars if he figured out anything. He won't.

--> I Don't know, maybe it will help. Who knows.
---> @IHateFin was right, when he said SF would get better quickly most likely, he did... and didn't do much, he did fast 7d after I told him to 400x... but he possibly would anyways... he got 40% or so like that... but he didn't have every symptom, but was also very very depressed. And had issues that made this worse anyways.
--> so it can be fixed quickly, and that's great!
 

Pedro melo

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--> NO well, I am impulsive as fuck... and I'm saying I could be great. And I can easily fuck up everything in life, way worse than impotency.
--> SO with that in mind every day for 15-20 yrs... .... Don't even bother with that shyt, fast or detox. My log could literally be this to others:
fast--->arl/tei... or do what I did ... in that I did other things than everyone else, but overall basically a lot and most of what others did.
----> I will send your endo 2million dollars if he figured out anything. He won't.
Which case are you mnk?
 

MNK99

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--> For PFS?
I don't know. I think the case in which, and individual responds positively to DHT. Unless something changed (sensibly) today, in regards to us knowing what each case is. ...?

--> He was exaggerating perhaps... but I think definitely don't take duta... --> near killed a couple guys here.

--> Although did jack all to guys I know in real life too (in terms of side effects).
 

IHateFin

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Its nota about to being impulsibe brother... Is to feel impotent! Something that didnt happened before i quit is now happening in the worst csse scenario?
Maybe my body got adapted to block 5 alpha reductase . maybe.
There's only one way to find out. Whether I respond week to creatine or dht boosters, or to dht blockers...


your body has not adopted to reduced 5 alpha reductase... your receptors are no longer receptive to androgens and the more androgens you pump in your body the worse you feel. the tomax is raising your hormones far past a threshold your receptors can handle and that's whats fucking you everyday. honestly had you not taken anything at all and let your body try and sort its self out you may have seen gradual improvements.

there was a guy on here whos name slips me atm who was so bad he wanted to have a sex change, but he gave it time and over like a few months his body was able to fix its self to 70% maybe better.
 

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@IHateFin... Sfrk, that's who I meant, by "SF"... but yeah. I talked to him so did a lot of others, and ... it just went away one day. He fasted 7days.
He is glad he did.

-0 to 40%... just like that... so probably 60-80 soon after.
 
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