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[bruschi11]

I know supplementing with estrogen is usually a bad idea but have you seen this? Markedly elevated levels of estrone sulfate after long-term oral, but not transdermal, administration of estradiol in postmenopausal women - PubMed

This trans-care doctor says he noticed the same thing in his own clinic (higher E1:E2 ratio on oral E2).

https://www.reddit.com/r/DrWillPowers/comments/1o0n7vw

But ofc, it would suppress you so would have to add something androgenic to it...

This was a really good post dude thank you. I put a lot together from this.

Taking e2 or too much test just causes copper issues. Copper issues lower sulfur. No sulfur can’t sulfate estrone. So can’t move estrone.

Moving estrone to estrone sulfate is the MOST important thing for me now. Bringing sulfur up has to happen. And this is why Shawn bean uses Epsom salt cream 3x daily. And uses k2 to move his e2 to e1. And biotin for succinate which raises gtp which converts sulfite to sulfur.

And why I always loved liver flushes Epsom salts etc etc etc.

My testo dose is back to 12 mg a day. 85mg weekly essentially. But have to get the sulfur coming up no questions asked there

 

[RebelWithACause]

@RebelWithACause interesting it seems that you eat so little. I would start to lose muscles that I have left on two meals like that and I would be walking zombie.. Maybe you are very little active? Like I don't work right now, but I still try to at least do some body weight exercises, stand more even home not just sit all the time and ride bike to the shop or outside of the city where I would walk. Simply always trying to keep the body somewhat functional. Once I stop moving and I am not hungry anymore and I would eat less like I would be fucked. Btw I can eat carrots no problem as well. but jsut the idea that I am poisoning myself with all that beta carotene.. You see those orange hands and faces of people if they eat a lot of carrots, mangos, pumpkin, sweet potatoes and stuff like that. It can't be healthy..

I don't eat that little but when I ate more fat I didn't have to eat a lot. Now I eat lower fat and I eat more volume and stuff. Fat def. slows me down like crazy still to this day lol. Probably will only get worse as you become slower over time so I think slow oxidizer diet is pretty much what I'll do forever.

 

[Yura]

@RebelWithACause what is more fat in your case. Normal people if the cook or if they eat out they eat so much fat. I can't believe how much fat for example people use for cooking. They say "little oil on a pan" for example and it looks like more fat that I would put into all my meals for a day. So most people would say that they eat pretty low fat and healthy, but in reality they could have like 150g daily easily.. For me when I was doing bodybuilding 100% I never added any fats. So I could really eat 6 meals a day. Meals like chicken breast, rice, some breen beans. There is hardly any fat. YOu digest it within 3 hours easily.. Now I eat 3-4 meals so if I want to last that meal longer than 2-3 hours I need to add to that meal lean meat, rice, veggie little olive oil like 10-15g. It is funny that the bodybuilding diet was so good for me. Perfect for slow oxidizers and I had no idea about any nutritional balancing stuff just bodybuilding stuff heh.. Once I started learning bullshit and started eating more fat because fat is good for you and carbs are not right. I made everything so much worse.. Same thing with good zinc/copper ratio on that diet(meat, rice, veggies, oats, whey protein, some fruit..) without even knowing something about zinc/copper... Once I started with buckwheat, nuts, seeds, chocolate, liver and all that nonsense.. Everything was just getting worse heh.. I crashed because of stupid steroid use not because of my diet. If I kept my bodybuilding diet after I crashed and never tried any of that stupid stuff like fasting, Paleo, Keto, Weston Price. Ray Peat, Morley Robbins. My health would probably recover pretty fast. Instead I started eating exactly the worst type of foods(vit A, copper, fructose, fat heavy) for my biochemistry at that time.. For a decade... Fuck my life.. :-(

 

[RebelWithACause]

Mostly fatty meats and fat dairy. Now I eat low fat like 50g max a day.

Keto is a death sentence. Especially after the age of 21-25 when your metabolic rate slows down. If you still doing keto in 30+ man you're just killing yourself. Oxidation rate will be zero, will constantly need stuff to speed you up like stims (caffeine, nicotine B vitamins, etc.) or fast to even have a normal metabolic rate.
Western diet is so bad for slow oxidizers. Probably reason why Asians who eat lower fat diets tend to do better until old age. Although they also have issues with their diet which has other problems.

 

[Yura]

@RebelWithACause I agree. Like I said in my log. It just in my scenario I need to lower soluble fiber as much as possible and stimulate bile production and flow as much as possible. Otherwise I will never detox that garbage out. THat doesn't mean I will go keto and eat 250g of fat a day like I did before where I had for breakfast 6 eggs, 100g full fat cheese, 50g of butter etc.. It just means I will eat more refined carbs without stuff like legumes, oats etc.. and I will up my fat from 40-50 to like 100-120g and will see what happens once there is no soluble fiber in the intestine constantly soaking up all that bile that my liver is able to produce.. I think 100g of fat is literally average fat intake for most people. So nothing extreme.. It just in our eyes it is high when we are used to eat under 50 heh..
Once I detox all that excess of copper and my bile flow works even on 1 tbsp of oil per meal there is no reason to go on higher fat that's for sure..
Once I no longer artificially increase estrogen and therefore copper retention low fat, high fiber is great to keep that natural hormone production in balance.
But like I said once you have those gallstones, that copper stored in the liver. How low fat can work for eliminating that copper from the liver when it needs to come out with the bile..
There has to be bile stimulation and TUDCA, taurine, glycine, lecithin, artichoke/dandelion root extract nothing worked.. Not even liver flushes or coffee enemas that I tried before.
So will see what fatty meat and no fiber can do heh..

 

[bruschi11]

50mcg of iodine. Turned system on so I could work for a day. Then crashed overnight in clear potassium depletion. But libido and a few things in oligoscan a lot better and fluoride dropped quite a bit for first time in 2 weeks.

I get it. In August 2024 when I got into iodine. It was really bad at first 50mcg was too much. But eventually I got on protoco where I’d take 25mcg daily. And within the next 2-3 months i saw fluoride fall quite a bit consistently.

It is about tyrosine and inositol (sugar) coming before iodine for t4 that’s clear and that’s why iodine has to be in such low doses .

The most fascinating thing is in these iodine crashes…. Iodine always drops in oligoscan after. Significantly. It’s crazzzzy

The only vitamin that isn’t in good position in Oligo after that is folate. And my whole plan this week is that I need methylfolafe with this fat metabolism approach I’m running

 

[bruschi11]

Strongly considering ending my TRT run.

But honestly strongly considering staying on too.

I just don’t know here.

It seems in the caloric deficit. Keto cycles. With some pretty long fasts I’ve been doing 20 hours. I’m down 7 lbs in about two weeks and 3% body fat.

But it just seems as I go into caloric deficits etc, copper just jumps. It’s just not going good there.

While on 4 andro in early summer. I did fine on the fasting. It was 1 andro that absolutely killed me while fasting and 1 andro is a lot more like test.

The thing is. Can I keep tyrosine up. As @zancek0 talks about. While off of testo .

I certainly have with low end test in the past.

 

[bruschi11]

I got VDR working again today finally for first time in a week I’d say. It’s absolutely horrible when system turns on like this.but it has to happen.

I’m basically dumping iron into brain. That’s what happens when system starts up. VDR gets me to fad for succinate to fumarate and fat metabolism turns on.

But remember we know know fat metabolism is tough on brain. But when fat metbaiskim turns on we show on my scale me losing body fat and gaining muscle. While we see in oligoscan fluoride dropping.

I haven’t even tested myself but I know these will happen tomorrow morning when I do so.

This last week so bad from iodine crashes to copper killing me from test from keto just killing me. I wouldn’t doubt it if it’s over .

I tested hair today. Will see how it looks on testo. Very worried about low zinc in last two htmas.

I have to realize the last time I felt well was late 2022. And prior to that? I was bad. But the healing reactions prior to me feeling better were absolutely insane. I think dhea in late 2022 added to my b12 b2 zn ca type approach got fat metabolism/ fumaratr working and I took down fluoride.

Fluoride competes with hydrogen in brain barrier.

 

[bruschi11]

I really think there’s a toxicity now that I’m getting a full nutrient hormone plan down.

And the last nutrient to get right seems to be iodine. And it’s for said toxicity fluoride.

I feel strongly this is the toxicity and I have to defeat it or I will die. But if I defeat the toxicity I will be a man of all men. A leader in truth.

Because what else is there to do when you’re 37 and you just fought for your life for 5 years after a solid 12 years of legitimate health issues.

Imagine just a decent life here. Can it happen?

I just don’t know if I’m too late. I do believe it’s possible I’m too late .

We are gonna see.

 

[Yura]

@bruschi11 Dude I tell you what is late. Husband of a friend of my mother. 70+yo cancer completely everywhere(from prostate cancer) the body is no longer making red blood cells. Now had even broken hip joint from falling. That is to late not you 37yo with no visible with no serious structural damage to your body beyond repair..

 

[bruschi11]

@bruschi11 Dude I tell you what is late. Husband of a friend of my mother. 70+yo cancer completely everywhere(from prostate cancer) the body is no longer making red blood cells. Now had even broken hip joint from falling. That is to late not you 37yo with no visible with no serious structural damage to your body beyond repair..

Thanks bro. I’m trying . It’s a hard life.

I know this is a form of oxygen toxicity severe mito disease. Sod issues. It’s serious. Far more advance than it was only 2 years ago when I got stolen and put in psyche ward. God . The ECT was just so bad. That was the big turning point.

Everything is telling me nmda . Where biotin makes iodine work by raising beta alanine which starts the whole glycine and chloride reception process in the nmda receptor.

This is all pro Gbold/ electrolytes protocol what I’m saying. It really should be more focused on nmda exclusively though I’m thinking.

The thing with nmda. After beta alanine comes taurine. Then glycine. Then chloride .

So if you’re doing ok with chloride, then it means some things are working

sea water has always been a big barometer for me . How I handle it specifically. I liked a foot bath with it yesterday. We will see how I proceed with these.

But sulfur is coming up. Which is big. Cuz sulfur raises taurine in some way or form.

Taurine beta alanine (biotin) accept glycine. Which puts chloride in the cell. And potassium with that? Assuming nadoh ok. You get atp.

Cuz it is nadph that puts potassium in the cell. Correct me if I’m wrong anyone.

We need to run on fad/nadph. But the true keys to these are sulfation electrolytes thyroid.

And when I say thyroid I mean b5. And making and retaining b5 is not simple friends. It starts with biotin/ b12 and androgens matter. Iron matters. Anemia is badddd. And I have it still.

 

[RebelWithACause]

Too late depends how you look at it. I feel like I lost a lot by being sick in 20s. Absolutely. Probably changed my life forever. But if I didn't get better I'd still be living in a way shittier situation. It's not like my life became worse from better health, not at all. So it's always worth it. It's simply the best option on the chessboard vs. laying down and rot.

That being said sometimes I wish I was more oblivious. Because knowing some stuff it makes life look more bleak.

But yea life is just a genuine shitshow IMO. Or at least it can be. I think a lot of men incl. myself we are not meant to be old probably should of died on some battlefield and that was it vs. having the luxury of analysing and tinkering,etc.

 

[Yura]

@RebelWithACause Yeah you lost couple of best years of your life, but you gained some wisdom, knowledge, different perspective. I lost my life like from 10yo to now 39yo basically when I look back how fucked up I was. Now there are people who did one stupid mistake and are paralyzed from neck down or are in prison for life or whatever.. SO it is always about the perspective.. I would love to live "normal" life of average healthy person, but only with knowledge I have now. Without it I am gladly taking the position of observer basically. I think there is so little % of people who are healthy, who can live crazy busy and fun life and at the same time have that deeper knowledge on stuff like why people do stuff, what is health/medical system about etc.. You would need some good friend or family member who is that observer and thinker and learn from him. Otherwise you have around the same people as you are who also don't have the answers..

 

[RebelWithACause]

I was a bit negative maybe. I think you can always get better at any age and it's always a good thing. But yea sometimes it sucks to not just be able to live "normal" especially in 20s. If you are healthy in 20s man you are lucky. You can set yourself up for a very good life.
But it's still worth it at any age to try and get better. Of course. I;m happy I am out of PFS and no chronic health issues and I do good in daily life but the realisation of loss it sucks sometimes. I think most people who had issues will understand that.

 

[Yura]

@RebelWithACause You need to also realize that it can get worse. Much worse and it probably will.. As other issues come with age..I know that quote from Rocky is cliché as fuck, but it is so true. Life is about how well you can take punches, recover from them and keep moving forward.. You see people who suffer and have to overcome crazy shit all the time and they are still able to try enjoy what they can in life and vise versa you see people who have perfect life. So their bar to what is good life is set so high that any small problem can completely destroy them,. They start taking meds, drugs, alcohol or whatever and they are done. So in your case you can be really happy. It is not some cope talking bullshit it is true. You are better prepared for any problem that is coming much better than anyone who always had perfect life without any struggle..

 

[RebelWithACause]

@RebelWithACause You need to also realize that it can get worse. Much worse and it probably will.. As other issues come with age..I know that quote from Rocky is cliché as fuck, but it is so true. Life is about how well you can take punches, recover from them and keep moving forward.. You see people who suffer and have to overcome crazy shit all the time and they are still able to try enjoy what they can in life and vise versa you see people who have perfect life. So their bar to what is good life is set so high that any small problem can completely destroy them,. They start taking meds, drugs, alcohol or whatever and they are done. So in your case you can be really happy. It is not some cope talking bullshit it is true. You are better prepared for any problem that is coming much better than anyone who always had perfect life without any struggle..

Yea for sure. I agree going through stuff like this can help a lot with the rest of your life. And yes life can get worse but also the way you look at the things that happen. For example death of a loved one is not treated the same in all cultures. Just as an example. Same for smaller problems. A major factor of life experience is pretty much all about what you think about the things that happened to you. It's not about what actually happened because what happened is the impulse/stimuli. It just is. Then afterwards you frame it as something good or bad (or whatever is in between those options).

I admit that sometimes I am just spoiled. Because if I would transform myself from 2017 to instantly the state I am in now I would be excited and happy. But because the process took years I got used to these states of better health and you want more more more.

I hope you guys get better and able to enjoy it more. lol

 

[ruprmurdoch]

Rebel:
1. Seriously, if I would have had worse day in Netherlands Kingdom I would just hit some red light district
2. Regardind dying on battlefield, being Polish is making this probbability higher due to geopolitical reasons. Being Dutch or Czech - this make those chances smaller. ,,West" already want push us (Poles) on this Ukr(NATO)-Rus meatgrinder. Today another ,,sabotage" happening, ,,they" try to destroy train but no one mention that this kind of attack happen abt one week ago in Russia on transsiberian railway and You know who did it ? Yeah Ukraininans with probably help of NATO.

 

[Yura]

@RebelWithACause "I got used to these states of better health and you want more more more."
yeah it is in our nature. It is important to work on it. So we never forget. Stay humble and happy for little things. It is amazing if you can keep that mindset and be happy for every day that you can do what you can do even if it's normal stuff like wake up and go outside.. You hear people around complaining about stupid stuff and you just smile and you are happy that you can do those thing that people complain about etc.. But it is nonstop fight to keep that mindset for sure.. Another stuff what helps to simply say to yourself that you will be living simple frugal life. Not seeking pleasure, instant dopamine, buying useless stuff etc.. That automatically keeps you in that mindset what is actually important.. So you don't wake up one day as some ruined addict or whatever..

 

[RebelWithACause]

Rebel:
1. Seriously, if I would have had worse day in Netherlands Kingdom I would just hit some red light district
2. Regardind dying on battlefield, being Polish is making this probbability higher due to geopolitical reasons. Being Dutch or Czech - this make those chances smaller. ,,West" already want push us (Poles) on this Ukr(NATO)-Rus meatgrinder. Today another ,,sabotage" happening, ,,they" try to destroy train but no one mention that this kind of attack happen abt one week ago in Russia on transsiberian railway and You know who did it ? Yeah Ukraininans with probably help of NATO.

Dude I would be more depressed after banging a hooker in red light district. lol Especially after the fact

But yea Poland is in a hard area and makes sense what you say they want Poles to fight there. I don't think anyone should die for this current global system. Who even votes for it, I definitely don't. A lot of people here are made scared that Russia will continue to Western/Northern Europe which I doubt is even possible. So this is why they want Poland probably and anyone closer to Russia to "help Ukraine" as an extra defense force against that. They say a lot of Ukraine people want to join Europe and they hate the "soviet influence".

Not saying anyone should "die on the battlefield" but think about it a lot of us men we live very artificial. Back in the day you'd just be sent to war and that's it. I think a lot of men genetically have that. They are cannon fodder not meant to be overly sentient. Before PFS I had very little sentience. I just followed my instincts. Not saying this is good because being cannon fodder is probably the lowest level of being. But this is how I was born. This modern age forced me to think about a lot of crap which just made life more complicated.

@Yura yea you are right. It's more about contentness and I think simple life definitely givest hat. Happiness is very hard to achieve. It is fleeting and I think it's also a motivator to keep going and doing things in life. I read a study that showed we are not made to be happy. And that happiness does exist but it's not like you are "happy" all the time. It's like dopamine where it motivates you to seek it out and to look for it. But most of all survivability was #1, even our emotions are instruments to increase our survivability

 

[Fazed22]

Rebel:
1. Seriously, if I would have had worse day in Netherlands Kingdom I would just hit some red light district

lol that made me laugh